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which would you take. ~England win the world cup and latics go down ~England flunk in the world cup but latics stay up Assuming latics staying up and england winning the world cup is not an option Ive always always gone in favour of latics when asked these types of questions in the past but i thought i would ask the question again seeing as there is so much apathy about the place at the moment. and it would be great to see england lift the world cup, but in the end i just dont think i could bare seeing us in the basement division. ill go for latics staying up, but only just

Anyone, i dont care. i dont know who is available. all i do know is that we have the worst goals for column in england and 99% of managers would be able to improve on that.

We play good football up until the six yard box but dont score. i dont care if we play like brazil out of the opposition penalty area, if we cant score we are going down. wrong decisions infront of goal and an unwillingness to have a shot is going to lose you games. i would rather play football like ronnie moore provided us with and have an end product than watch good football with a guarenteed "oldham nil" scoreline every week. people saying we shouldnt sack dp cos we played well yesterday and didnt get the result we deserved are wrong in my opinion cos playing like we did yesterday will see us relegated. if we cant score we are down. FACT . i saw the same at colchester last week and im told it was the same old story against leeds. 16 games without scoring this season tells its own story GET PENNEY OUT NOW!!!

Its not a question of results or defensive records. ok the defensive record is really good. i agree, but if you watch the performances there is absolutely nothing to get excited about. long ball, constantly changing tactics and personnel around without giving the last effort time to bed in. just aimless football. im sure most fans would agree with me when i say losing wouldnt be so bad if the football we were trying to play was positive. in sheridans first season didnt we lose his first five games on the bounce (correct me if im wrong) but it was obvious to see how he wanted the game played and we stuck by that.

The handling of the club in general The Failsworth Shambles The Poor Team mangement The demolition of the Lookers The Lack of investment in the club and especially in the team No one is happy with the club at the moment. Whatever your thoughts and angers make your feelings known

Firstly I am not in any way an accountant so i cannot digest the accounts accurately myself, but a good friend of mine is a qualified accountant and he put the information from companies house in laymans terms for me, using the glazier example to give me the general idea. if someone who knows what they are talking about would like to look at them and lay out a more detailed analogy of them feel free, as i simply cannot. However what i will say is that in my opinion it makes sound business sense to take out loans against the value of the land.

I used to be a die hard fan, home and away, bought every strip and used the message boards an an hourly basis. i used to be a mod on hear and worked closely with the club on a few projects including organising a sponsored do at the ernie cooksey game and walking the length of the country from millwall to Oldham in the name of Dr Kershaws. I would plan holidays and family events around latics and people around me accepted i was always unavailable most saturday afternoons. I WAS a die hard, hardcore fan. These days its somewhat different. granted my financial circumstances have changed and i couldnt go to every game even if i wanted too, but this season i have not been to an away game, have not bought the strip, I feel no affection towards the club I love and do not consider the players out on the pitch to be Oldham Players. We have players at the club who are from a long line of average joes. not one of the signings in summer i would call a coup, infact the best signing by far was Abbott, and is infact the only one of Penneys Signings who would get into Sheridans team from the beginning of last season. I am and always will be a season ticket holder, but the passion that has burned inside me since i was a boy is slowly getting weaker and weaker. I am not writing this as another Penney Bashing thread, Im looking at the club as a whole. there are many, many factors wrong with the club and I really do fear for the clubs survival. I do not believe the Players have the club at heart I do not believe the management have the club at heart I do not believe the Board of directors have the club at heart The players are turning out, picking up their pay packets each week and are seemingly unflustered when a result goes against them. The management seem tactically inept, incapable in the transfer market and lacking dicipline and respect from the playing staff. Five regular players are here from last season. Smalley, Whittaker, Hazell, Taylor and Gregan. With the exception of Gregan all have taken a step back this season. something which i personally reflects in the management of the team. Its too coincidental to blame it on individual players its obviously coaching methods and tactics. The board of Directors Are moving us to a new ground situated 4 miles down broadway, in the heartland of the City fan base. I work, and have done for the last 4 years 500 yrds from the proposed site and am yet to meet an Oldham fan. yet City fans come in on a daily basis. How then can they expect to gain any new fans in this area? In my opinion the fans you will lose from the Royton, Shaw and Oldham areas will far outweigh those you gain in Failsworth. Financial suicide. Obviously the sale of the ground will Pay for the new stadium, but, Again in my opinion, I believe rather than getting this new arena, we will see a supposed 'temporary' ground share with another club which will go on and on. the TTA bought the club for the land, and I fear once the sale of the ground has gone through, within a year or so we wont see them for dust. I have seen the financial records at Companies house (available to anyone who wants to pay for the privilage) AND THEY ARE NOT USING THERE OWN MONEY TO FUND THE CLUB. the story of Latics can be compared to that of the Glaziers, but on a scale 1000 times smaller. borrow the money against the football club, reap the rewards then sell on. if it all goes tits up, you havent lost anything, its the club with the debt. We are a shockingly poor team, with a management structure not up to the standard, playing in a dated three sided stadium, with a board who are in it for what they can get. THE CLUB IS ROTTEN TO THE CORE My origional point about being a die hard fan was not boasting. there are many other fans who have done, and will go on to do much more for the club than i ever could. I simply wish to make the point that If the club is losing fans like me, what hope have they got of getting the 7000 average they need to break even.

Personally glad gregan has gone ( not for footballing reasons, i reckon he upset the dressing room). Allott? hmm tricky. his form in 07/08 was outstanding, but this year he has been far from it. too many times he has gone missing or had a stinker. not overly fussed he has gone. Presumably Penney has a plan. its easy to say "I cant believe _ _ _ _ _ _ has been released", but If We get something equall as good or better, who are we to complain. In DP we trust.

how many strikers the world over can say they average a goal a game? we have te worlds best striker obviously

:censored: didnt thinkabout that. sorry

i got 41. missed stoke!! how i dont know being as they are there already. notice that oldham athletic is the team which most people dont get 2 Oldham Athletic 43.6%

DONT DO IT!!! DONT DO IT I TELL YA!

cracking, but wouldnt work. what happens when we play leeds? or any other team which plays in white? we would need a third strip, and that would mean keepig the yellow

is this why people have been purposly missing the cross bar all year?

but could get a rendition at walsall

he ha some very good goalkeeping attributes but for me doesnt command his area. i like a keeper who is constantly communicating with his defence and to be blunt he is one step from mute. is it coincidence we lost form when norm got injured? 2 clean sheets in 20 odd is partially down to him. harsh to blame him soley but he has played his part. i like him but not enough

Id go for: New keeper (personally dont rate fleming) Eardley Hazell New Centre Back Jones (if we can get him, or new left back Lee Allott New Central Midfielder (ala Wellens) Taylor New striker New striker Get shot of Gregan (too expensive and over rated) Maher, Whittaker, Kalala (average at best) Wolfy, Lomax (never moved on fom young players with potential) have stam, Stephans, black etc as back up. With Hughes, Liddell and Possibly gregan and Crossley not on the pitch next year, we are likely to have a very young team, with the likes of Allott and Hazell as our experienced pro's. Therefore i think our new signings at centre back and 1 of the strikers have to be experienced heads. i dont like signing players 32+ personally, by experienced i mean 28 +

shot themselves in the foot along time ago

here is one idea, taking tranmere's thinking further the more we sell, the bigger the discount ie sell 3000 = £300 = £900,000 sell 4000 = £280 = £1,120,000 sell 5000 = £250 = £1,250,000 sell 6000 = £208 = £1,248,000 sell 7000 = £179 = £1,253,000 sell 8000 = £156 = £1,250,000 personally i dont think giving tickets away for £100 is workable at latics for the simple reason of city and united, plus the fact that we only have a 10,000 capacity. but a structured pay scheme like that could work i reckon. the figures above are just to give you the idea

what there is a match tmmoro? i was hoping we could just go and come back. the bit in the middle is usually the let down of the day

Ive tried veryone i can think of mate,but unfortunatly its just those that are comin that are interested

he is staying as coach and understudy. thats the general concensus from what ive heard. might be wrong

fleming, crossley and konstantinople or whatever he is called? cant see it myself. fleming will be number one, with crossley the understudy

isnt that the first game you aint played in a while rocky? coincidence prehaps we won?