leeslover Posted August 11, 2008 Share Posted August 11, 2008 "A bit north and a bit west" is not the North West, and by the way not all Midlanders talk like Brummies - ask Walsall fans. They all sound the same to me... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kellys_discopants Posted August 11, 2008 Share Posted August 11, 2008 Lets hope it misses us, Rochdales pitch is awful at dealing with heavy rain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trickyrickyholden Posted August 11, 2008 Share Posted August 11, 2008 As I've pointed out before, it's simple really. Look at the map and Oldham is neither in the North nor the West. It's always described as the North West, but this is erroneous. See the link spouting about it being in the North West and then look at the map, which contradicts the text. The two bits on the top left are the North West, the two on the top right are the Nrth East. The bottom right is the South East and the bottom left the South West. that leaves the three bits in the middle as the Midlands. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_West_England When the Met Office weather forecaster talks about the North West on TV, he/she points at the area North and South of the Lake District. When they talk about Oldham and Rochdale they refer to it as the foothills of the Pennines haha what the bejesus are you talking about man? 1) Anyone who uses Wikipedia to make a point, should be given short shrift. 2) When you do use it to make a point, at least make sure it actually backs you up - it clearly states that Greater Manchester is in the south of the North West. 3) This whole arguement is daft, because last time i checked weather systems had no respect for political boundaries. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tony4938 Posted August 11, 2008 Share Posted August 11, 2008 Oldham and Rochdale are in the North West and i won't be told otherwise!! so there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martjs Posted August 12, 2008 Share Posted August 12, 2008 As I've pointed out before, it's simple really. Look at the map and Oldham is neither in the North nor the West. It's always described as the North West, but this is erroneous. See the link spouting about it being in the North West and then look at the map, which contradicts the text. The two bits on the top left are the North West, the two on the top right are the Nrth East. The bottom right is the South East and the bottom left the South West. that leaves the three bits in the middle as the Midlands. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_West_England When the Met Office weather forecaster talks about the North West on TV, he/she points at the area North and South of the Lake District. When they talk about Oldham and Rochdale they refer to it as the foothills of the Pennines Fair enough but, I'm sorry Diego, I won't be telling anyone I'm from the Midlands! It's bad enough saying "near Manchester" and they reply... "Oh so you must like Manchester U****d then" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
opinions4u Posted August 12, 2008 Share Posted August 12, 2008 Well, here in the North Midlands (Royton) it's persisting it down at 6.45am. The game in the small town north of Wolverhampton (Rochdale, to be precise) must be in doubt because: 1) Rochdale's pitch has drainage as bad as my back garden 2) It has been exacerbated by the tears of Dale fans since their 27th May defeat at Wembley, a posh ground somewhere in Southern France 3) Rochdale do have more games called off than any other team Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy_b_100 Posted August 12, 2008 Share Posted August 12, 2008 Well .... using my best judging skills and the only weather report I trust (sight & touch) ... its pissing it down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hometownclub Posted August 12, 2008 Share Posted August 12, 2008 Lets hope it misses us, Rochdales pitch is awful at dealing with heavy rain. If thats the case then the game maybe in danger as its been raining heavily for a good while now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singe Posted August 12, 2008 Share Posted August 12, 2008 Well, here in the North Midlands (Royton) it's persisting it down at 6.45am. The game in the small town north of Wolverhampton (Rochdale, to be precise) must be in doubt because: 1) Rochdale's pitch has drainage as bad as my back garden 2) It has been exacerbated by the tears of Dale fans since their 27th May defeat at Wembley, a posh ground somewhere in Southern France 3) Rochdale do have more games called off than any other team LOL It's certaintly not the Cote D'Azur here in Kent this morning. And unfortunately, it is reminiscent of a Brazilian rain forest rather then the CopaCabana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
futchers briefs Posted August 12, 2008 Share Posted August 12, 2008 Quick update for those who've not set off yet In Royton, which in my a-z is only a little finger nails width away from Rochdale is currently seeing persistent rain and as such the dog ain't going for a walk 'till it bucks up!! Looks like i'll have to spend the afternoon on the Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singe Posted August 12, 2008 Share Posted August 12, 2008 BTW Diego Am pretty sure that Rochdale is not in the North East, East, Midlands South East, South, South West, Wales, Northern Ireland, Scotland. So what are we decided on? It'sa toss up between WestNorth West and North West by West? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Compass_Card.png MAybe we should do a poll! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diego_Sideburns Posted August 12, 2008 Share Posted August 12, 2008 haha what the bejesus are you talking about man? 1) Anyone who uses Wikipedia to make a point, should be given short shrift. 2) When you do use it to make a point, at least make sure it actually backs you up - it clearly states that Greater Manchester is in the south of the North West. 3) This whole arguement is daft, because last time i checked weather systems had no respect for political boundaries. If you read my whole post instead of every other word you would appreciate that I was agreeing with you about Wikipedia. It states clearly that Oldham is in the North West, because that is the popular misconception. Then it shows a map of the North West which does not include Oldham and Rochdae. I also wrote about Met Ofice regional boundaries, not political ones. Keep up! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parigby Posted August 12, 2008 Share Posted August 12, 2008 On the assumption it is the same weather front that has passed through Oxfordshire overnight, it has a duration of about twelve hours. It stopped here about thirty minutes ago, having started at 7.30pm last night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diego_Sideburns Posted August 12, 2008 Share Posted August 12, 2008 Well, here in the North Midlands (Royton) it's persisting it down at 6.45am. Here in the middle Midlands it is also persisting it down! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diego_Sideburns Posted August 12, 2008 Share Posted August 12, 2008 BTW Diego Am pretty sure that Rochdale is not in the North East, East, Midlands South East, South, South West, Wales, Northern Ireland, Scotland. So what are we decided on? It'sa toss up between WestNorth West and North West by West? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Compass_Card.png MAybe we should do a poll! The popular misconceptions are that Oldham is in the West and Leeds is in the East, and so people say that Leeds should not have been included in the North West Masters, but that was just a matter of how Sky split up the competition. Clearly Blackpool is in the West and Scarborough is in the East. Oldham and Rochdale are more central than Blacjkpool and Scarborough. They are also much further South than Carlisle and Newcastle. So we have deduced that Oldham and Rochdale are in that middle band which starts at about Skipton and goes down to Oxford. In that band some places are in the West like Chester and some in the East like Skegness. Oldham and Rochdale are West of centre but not in the West. I hesitate to say North Midlands, but they are both in the Northern part of the middle band of the country. Hope that has made it crystal clear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankly Mr Shankly Posted August 12, 2008 Share Posted August 12, 2008 The popular misconceptions are that Oldham is in the West and Leeds is in the East, and so people say that Leeds should not have been included in the North West Masters, but that was just a matter of how Sky split up the competition. Clearly Blackpool is in the West and Scarborough is in the East. Oldham and Rochdale are more central than Blacjkpool and Scarborough. They are also much further South than Carlisle and Newcastle. So we have deduced that Oldham and Rochdale are in that middle band which starts at about Skipton and goes down to Oxford. In that band some places are in the West like Chester and some in the East like Skegness. Oldham and Rochdale are West of centre but not in the West. I hesitate to say North Midlands, but they are both in the Northern part of the middle band of the country. Hope that has made it crystal clear. Yawn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc0000 Posted August 12, 2008 Share Posted August 12, 2008 WOW is this the most pointless debate every I think the majority of people in the country view the likes of Oldham, Rochdale and Manchester as being in the North West and I think im happy to go with the majority opinion on this one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueInAus Posted August 12, 2008 Share Posted August 12, 2008 Things must be good for us Oldham fans if all we have to argue about is where the dale is located geographically. I think the real issue here is, when are the Met office ever right anyway? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diego_Sideburns Posted August 12, 2008 Share Posted August 12, 2008 Lets hope it misses us, Rochdales pitch is awful at dealing with heavy rain. Having clarified the geographical urban misconceptions, let's get back to the point of this thread - scaremongering by questioning whether the match may be called off. New drains have been installed under the Spotland pitch during the summer, so everything should be OK. http://www.rochdaleafc.premiumtv.co.uk/pag...1360234,00.html I also posted this last week, but does anyone take any notice of what I write (apart from otid) - no, do they bollox! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lags Posted August 12, 2008 Author Share Posted August 12, 2008 Having clarified the geographical urban misconceptions, let's get back to the point of this thread - scaremongering by questioning whether the match may be called off. New drains have been installed under the Spotland pitch during the summer, so everything should be OK. http://www.rochdaleafc.premiumtv.co.uk/pag...1360234,00.html I also posted this last week, but does anyone take any notice of what I write (apart from otid) - no, do they bollox! Scaremongering? or informing Tics of the Met office warning? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diego_Sideburns Posted August 12, 2008 Share Posted August 12, 2008 WOW is this the most pointless debate every I think the majority of people in the country view the likes of Oldham, Rochdale and Manchester as being in the North West and I think im happy to go with the majority opinion on this one It's only the most pointless debate since last time we had the same debate about twelve months ago. Under Tony Blair's Education, Education, Education initiatives, I aim to correct popular misconceptions, such as this one and the one which says you can see the Great Wall of Chia from the moon. Some people choose to ignore the facts - ignorance is bliss. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diego_Sideburns Posted August 12, 2008 Share Posted August 12, 2008 Scaremongering? or informing Tics of the Met office warning? Here we go round again - when the Met Office talks of the North West, it refers to the Lake District and Carlise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diego_Sideburns Posted August 12, 2008 Share Posted August 12, 2008 Things must be good for us Oldham fans if all we have to argue about is where the dale is located geographically. It makes a change from the Taylor on the right debate, which Shez seems to be winning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singe Posted August 12, 2008 Share Posted August 12, 2008 Debate, surely people did not take this as serious debate?I think the term whoosh might therefore be appropriate..! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
astottie Posted August 12, 2008 Share Posted August 12, 2008 Debate, surely people did not take this as serious debate?I think the term whoosh might therefore be appropriate..! hope this may be considered as fact. Just spoken to the lass in the Dale ticket office and she says it's only drizzle there (must be because it's not in the North West) and she has spoken to the groundsman when she got in this morning and he said it is draining well and there is to be no inspection. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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