trickyrickyholden Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 Well that beats all. "Let's hide all that pesky science!" This site is the best laid out and most comprehensive summary available online. It is updated and maintained by climate scientists, and is well documented with the real science behind this issue. http://realclimate.org/ This is the IPCC site. The report put out by the IPCC represents the current scientific consensus in climate issues, especially climate change and man's contribution to it. http://www.ipcc.ch/ The scientific consensus puts a very high probability (pretty f*****g sure) on the amount that humans have contributed to the current trend of warming. Let's put into perspective that Al Gore is alarmist, as are many others, but the fact that humans are contributing to climate change is established science. Good links I am certainly not trying to hide any science, i guess the point i was trying to make (and couldn't last night due to it being very late) is that there is no absolute evidence that humans are responsible for the acceleration in global warming. I concede that only a fool thinks that increased atmospheric CO2, deforrestation, and cow's farts have no effect on the earth's temp, however it is my belief that only a fool would think it is right to invest so much on the back of sketchy "evidence". I also believe that if we stopped man-made greenhouse emissions tomorrow (whether it be H20, CO2, CH4 or O3) the earth's temperature would continue to rise to catstrophic levels. Yes millions of humans will be wiped out, that is the nature of the beast (or is that the beast in nature). Admittedly this is based on gut instinct and acknowledgment that Man can only scratch the surface of our planet's heating /cooling cycles. Christ! we will be laying tracks to control Milankovitch cycles next. PS Vote no PPS as a exile living in peterborough can't wait for sat, there are 5 exiles here, and we are dragging along another 10 - should be a crap game then! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeslover Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 PPS as a exile living in peterborough can't wait for sat, there are 5 exiles here, and we are dragging along another 10 - should be a crap game then! Jump into the Gas Guzzlers and come support the fans team then! God knows how they'll take it if we outnumber them with our travelling following Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr_latics Posted December 11, 2008 Share Posted December 11, 2008 The no vote continues down its crazy path What's with the message at the bottom of your posts? This is my work, tell who you like, it's their problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimsleftfoot Posted December 11, 2008 Share Posted December 11, 2008 Just to point out that regardless of whether you think the congestion charge should come in or not, the last thing I had heard, under 40% of people had sent in their postal votes by yesterday so it could swing either way. If you want a say you need to vote!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garcon Posted December 11, 2008 Share Posted December 11, 2008 What's with the message at the bottom of your posts? This is my work, tell who you like, it's their problem. Odd one isn't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc0000 Posted December 11, 2008 Share Posted December 11, 2008 Just to point out that regardless of whether you think the congestion charge should come in or not, the last thing I had heard, under 40% of people had sent in their postal votes by yesterday so it could swing either way. If you want a say you need to vote!!! Finally something we agree on..... You cant complain if you dont vote! Although people will :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnny punkster Posted December 11, 2008 Share Posted December 11, 2008 Finally something we agree on..... You cant complain if you dont vote! Although people will :P so ,have you voted yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc0000 Posted December 11, 2008 Share Posted December 11, 2008 so ,have you voted yet? I left the area about a year ago so I don't get a vote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
opinions4u Posted December 11, 2008 Share Posted December 11, 2008 I left the area about a year ago so I don't get a vote Your words supporting charges for others who do still live in the area are greatly appreciated. Thanks!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garcon Posted December 11, 2008 Share Posted December 11, 2008 Finally something we agree on..... You cant complain if you dont vote! Although people will :P I could complain. Because I could easily be impacted (positively or negatively), yet I don't get a vote because I live in East Cheshire Unitary Council area (Macclesfield Borough Council until recently). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc0000 Posted December 11, 2008 Share Posted December 11, 2008 Your words supporting charges for others who do still live in the area are greatly appreciated. Thanks!! Your welcome Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stitch_KTF Posted December 11, 2008 Share Posted December 11, 2008 I left the area about a year ago so I don't get a vote And so instead you have helped influence some on here to vote 'NO'? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc0000 Posted December 11, 2008 Share Posted December 11, 2008 And so instead you have helped influence some on here to vote 'NO'? I think some of you are voting No regardless to be frank Anything to keep that £5 in your back pocket :P Luckily I go on a number of forums that are the reverse of the opinion poll on here Going to be interesting to see which way it goes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stitch_KTF Posted December 11, 2008 Share Posted December 11, 2008 I think some of you are voting No regardless to be frank Anything to keep that £5 in your back pocket :P Luckily I go on a number of forums that are the reverse of the opinion poll on here Going to be interesting to see which way it goes Had you taken part in a thread about fuel duty not so long ago, you would recall that I am an advocate of increasing tax on fuel used for social and domestic pleasure, as opposed to only considering my wallet. Having said that, I am glad you didnt participate.....it was an intelligent, interesting and mature discussion you see. Link to one of the number of forums? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc0000 Posted December 11, 2008 Share Posted December 11, 2008 Link to one of the number of forums? Use google... Your will find more than the couple I post in.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stitch_KTF Posted December 11, 2008 Share Posted December 11, 2008 Use google... Your will find more than the couple I post in.... I challenged you to leave a link because I don't believe you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc0000 Posted December 11, 2008 Share Posted December 11, 2008 I challenged you to leave a link because I don't believe you. Would rather not as I wouldn't want some of you lot spreading your poison about me.... You should know by now I couldnt give a monkeys if you believe me or not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stitch_KTF Posted December 11, 2008 Share Posted December 11, 2008 Would rather not as I wouldn't want some of you lot spreading your poison about me.... You should know by now I couldnt give a monkeys if you believe me or not Chin chinny.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeslover Posted December 11, 2008 Share Posted December 11, 2008 I challenged you to leave a link because I don't believe you. www.hypocriticaltreehuggerswhoreallywantyoutoknowtheyownabusiness/forums/halfscousetowns.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garcon Posted December 11, 2008 Share Posted December 11, 2008 Would rather not as I wouldn't want some of you lot spreading your poison about me.... Did you ever get round to giving back that bottle of whisky? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnny punkster Posted December 11, 2008 Share Posted December 11, 2008 www.hypocriticaltreehuggerswhoreallywantyoutoknowtheyownabusiness/forums/halfscousetowns.com link dosen't work andy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garcon Posted December 11, 2008 Share Posted December 11, 2008 link dosen't work andy. Give us half an hour.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc0000 Posted December 11, 2008 Share Posted December 11, 2008 Did you ever get round to giving back that bottle of whisky? You still scared about the secrets I have about you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garcon Posted December 11, 2008 Share Posted December 11, 2008 You still scared about the secrets I have about you Yours are far more interesting than mine.... (How's the gas guzzling CO2 chugging motorhome?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeslover Posted December 11, 2008 Share Posted December 11, 2008 Yours are far more interesting than mine.... (How's the gas guzzling CO2 chugging motorhome?) Priceless, absolutely priceless! I bet he parks it up in a disabled bay in an ecologically damaging ski resort that he flies to! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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