Matt Posted October 8, 2009 Share Posted October 8, 2009 Okay video links removed. Debate your sorry issues by all means, but I won't allow propaganda to be posted... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
creepy Posted October 8, 2009 Share Posted October 8, 2009 Okay video links removed. Debate your sorry issues by all means, but I won't allow propaganda to be posted... fair enough Rummy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeslover Posted October 8, 2009 Share Posted October 8, 2009 And the extemist muslims around the country are what exactly?? There are a small number of loathsome Islamic extremists in this country, here's hoping that nothing more than a small minority of white people aspire to their level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tangerinedreams Posted October 8, 2009 Share Posted October 8, 2009 (edited) Okay video links removed. Debate your sorry issues by all means, but I won't allow propaganda to be posted... ........ wait one. Edited October 8, 2009 by tangerinedreams Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tangerinedreams Posted October 8, 2009 Share Posted October 8, 2009 A report from one side but nothing from the other or is it ok for you to post it seeing as you are the site manager? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted October 8, 2009 Share Posted October 8, 2009 A report from one side but nothing from the other or is it ok for you to post it seeing as you are the site manager? It's not from any side - that was an actual report from the Birmingham incident. It just shows the EDL mugs in a very bad light strangely enough, who'd have thought it? The two video's are nothing but pro-right wing, Fascist claptrap - pasted corny images of Crusaders and lions - and I'm not having it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tangerinedreams Posted October 8, 2009 Share Posted October 8, 2009 Rummy, don't try and take me for a fool, are you trying to tell me that this article is neutral? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted October 8, 2009 Share Posted October 8, 2009 Rummy, don't try and take me for a fool, are you trying to tell me that this article is neutral? Okay, it's clearly taken from the minority ANL and its supporters. But it's still an actual account of what happened when the EDL was humiliated in Birmingham. Now that's not fake bull:censored: propaganda, with crusaders on horseback or dodgy lions! Ridiculous! In conclusion though despite early fears this was an obvious victory for anti-fascists, the local community and all those opposed across the nation to the existence, rhetoric and actions of the English Defence League, rest assured the EDL have nothing but bitter memories of humiliation about their outings in Birmingham. 1-0 to the community. I hope the EDL get the same treatment on Saturday... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted October 8, 2009 Share Posted October 8, 2009 ROWR! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tangerinedreams Posted October 8, 2009 Share Posted October 8, 2009 Okay, it's clearly taken from the minority ANL and its supporters. But it's still an actual account of what happened when the EDL was humiliated in Birmingham. Now that's not fake bull:censored: propaganda, with crusaders on horseback or dodgy lions! Ridiculous! 1-0 to the community. I hope the EDL get the same treatment on Saturday... Promoting a Left-wing victory, would it be the same if the site manager were to be Right-wing or would the site manager be somebody different? Choose to believe what you read, unless you were present in Birmingham on the said day what you posted is propaganda.......leading and wanting us to believe that the EDL had their arses kicked. Lets face it Rummy you have chosen not to tackle this from the centre but from the left. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tangerinedreams Posted October 8, 2009 Share Posted October 8, 2009 ROWR! And the point of this is what may I ask? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tangerinedreams Posted October 8, 2009 Share Posted October 8, 2009 There are a small number of loathsome Islamic extremists in this country, here's hoping that nothing more than a small minority of white people aspire to their level. Rummy could have chosen to take this approach but decided not to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted October 8, 2009 Share Posted October 8, 2009 I'm tackling the issue from a point of view that clearly doesn't suit the extremists. Am I right? Pardon the pun. I won't believe the EDL as long as I've got a brain in my head, understand that and you'll get my drift. Otherwise I suggest you find another forum to dangle your fishing hook.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
creepy Posted October 8, 2009 Share Posted October 8, 2009 Okay, it's clearly taken from the minority ANL and its supporters. But it's still an actual account of what happened when the EDL was humiliated in Birmingham. Now that's not fake bull:censored: propaganda, with crusaders on horseback or dodgy lions! Ridiculous! can this be shown them like your link? this is an actual account of what happened in Birmingham aswell - the far left and muslims causing trouble during a peaceful protest feel free obviously to delete it, but it works both ways, who are the ones causing trouble? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tangerinedreams Posted October 8, 2009 Share Posted October 8, 2009 I'm tackling the issue from a point of view that clearly doesn't suit the extremists. Am I right? Pardon the pun. I won't believe the EDL as long as I've got a brain in my head, understand that and you'll get my drift. Otherwise I suggest you find another forum to dangle your fishing hook.... No Rummy I'm not an extremist I'm slap bang down the middle. I catch your drift yes and I'm not fishing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeslover Posted October 8, 2009 Share Posted October 8, 2009 Rummy could have chosen to take this approach but decided not to. I couldn't open the videoclip before it was taken down but I think I know what it was, and if so I must say I can see why Rummy took it down. A propaganda video for a racist group is clearly off bounds for the board rules and regs. I can also see an argument that the ANL or whatever article he posted up could be considered borderline, and I think it is right that it should open to challenge and contrast, but it was at least a claim about factual events at a similar event to what we can expect on Saturday and therefore relevant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowl Posted October 8, 2009 Share Posted October 8, 2009 I'm tackling the issue from a point of view that clearly doesn't suit the extremists. Am I right? Pardon the pun. I won't believe the EDL as long as I've got a brain in my head, understand that and you'll get my drift. Otherwise I suggest you find another forum to dangle your fishing hook.... I honestly believe the EDL was formed simply to voice their disapproval against the Muslim extremists who try and poison our society with their wacky beliefs. If you look on youTube there are videos of the organizers explaining their reasons to march, with them standing next to fellow black protesters. Obviously things are different now. Anyway I don’t know why I care, I’ll be in Charlton! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted October 8, 2009 Share Posted October 8, 2009 I'll keep that up creepy. That video is ridiculous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tangerinedreams Posted October 8, 2009 Share Posted October 8, 2009 Okay, it's clearly taken from the minority ANL and its supporters. But it's still an actual account of what happened when the EDL was humiliated in Birmingham. Now that's not fake bull:censored: propaganda, with crusaders on horseback or dodgy lions! Ridiculous! 1-0 to the community. I hope the EDL get the same treatment on Saturday... Still stand by that comment Rummy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted October 8, 2009 Share Posted October 8, 2009 Still stand by that comment Rummy? Yep. EDL are a laughing stock. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snookmeister Posted October 8, 2009 Share Posted October 8, 2009 Okay, it's clearly taken from the minority ANL and its supporters. But it's still an actual account of what happened when the EDL was humiliated in Birmingham. Now that's not fake bull:censored: propaganda, with crusaders on horseback or dodgy lions! Ridiculous! 1-0 to the community. I hope the EDL get the same treatment on Saturday... Sorry Rummy, it's an actual account from a foaming commie. And just as likely to be bull:censored: propagada as anything the EDL posts. All the talk of "comrades" - Now THAT is ridiculous. Extremists from the left are just as loathsome as those from the right. But it's just not as popular to say so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
creepy Posted October 8, 2009 Share Posted October 8, 2009 I'll keep that up creepy. That video is ridiculous. that video shows the other side of the argument to sign off from this thread (no doubt there will be another one on Saturday) can i ask all mods not to give OWTB posters real names out on the boards, cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tangerinedreams Posted October 8, 2009 Share Posted October 8, 2009 Yep. EDL are a laughing stock. You are entitled to your opinion as much as anyone Rummy but tonight your name is in the same breath as the E.D.L. Its just where you are coming from is more popular than the Right-wingers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tangerinedreams Posted October 8, 2009 Share Posted October 8, 2009 that video shows the other side of the argument to sign off from this thread (no doubt there will be another one on Saturday) can i ask all mods not to give OWTB posters real names out on the boards, cheers I do beg your pardon!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeslover Posted October 8, 2009 Share Posted October 8, 2009 that video shows the other side of the argument Interesting video. What it suggested to me was careful attention to media skills: An articulate moderate sounding bloke with a silly none-threatening midlands accent, rather than interviewing random members of the crowd to see what they think The pitifully obvious token black man The PC nature of the banners - concern for womens liberation and gay rights (although to be fair homosexuality is frequently rife in far right movements, and I think none the worse of them for it) The constant appeals towards victimisation - plainly hoping to provoke trouble but saying, "why can't we when they can blah blah blah." Towards the end, I was thinking that, "Muslim bombers off our streets," was the new, "No Surrender," ie something that is impossible to argue against but that you understand the wider malicious nature of, but then they came through with the old favourite anyway. The tactics are plain Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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