boundaryblue80 Posted March 7, 2010 Share Posted March 7, 2010 You are determined to hate him, We have kept 10 clean sheets this season, brill has made 9 of them in 25 appearances flavahan kept 1 in 8 games.. Given that form flav would keep 3 in 24 games.. If the league was based on clean sheets kept we would be 8th brill responible for 9 of them.. he is a decent keeper, dodgy start, improved, stop saying he is rubbish, stop putting your teams players down I kept hearing this clean sheets stat earlier this season...it's laughable...it's as though the keeper is solely responsible for these! You'll find posts of mine in August to end of September saying give the lad a chance. Also ones saying when the defence is being as leaky, I'll not have a go at the keeper. Since then, the defence has improved but he carries on with his errors. In the games he's had clean sheets he's had little to do thanks to his men infront...Walsall's the perfect example, where he sythed down Byfield and was extremely lucky not to be sent off. He got away with it. He didn't at Colchester, a week later with his cock up. The guy has cost us lots of points be it early on when the whole backline wasn't performing or now. The fact the defence has performed better in recent months has only minimalised his antics. Today, yes, he saved us some points. I acknowledge that...it's about bloody time he did! Let's hope he continues to do so and stops wandering off his line when he's little chance of getting to a ball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dazlatic Posted March 7, 2010 Share Posted March 7, 2010 Really? I don't think when we've lost that he's actually had many saves to make. The defence has vastly improved over the months and Brill's had one or two saves in a match to make. Which at times he does. And when he does, he then follows it up with an error. Colchester's the perfect example...saves a 1 on 1 in the 1st half and then in the 2nd half comes out like a clown for a ball he's never going to win. That was about all he had to do that game! 0-1. The thing is bb80, Brill is improving. How good will he get in the end? With encouragement from the fans of course Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobOAFC Posted March 7, 2010 Share Posted March 7, 2010 I kept hearing this clean sheets stat earlier this season...it's laughable...it's as though the keeper is solely responsible for these! You'll find posts of mine in August to end of September saying give the lad a chance. Also ones saying when the defence is being as leaky, I'll not have a go at the keeper. Since then, the defence has improved but he carries on with his errors. In the games he's had clean sheets he's had little to do thanks to his men infront...Walsall's the perfect example, where he sythed down Byfield and was extremely lucky not to be sent off. He got away with it. He didn't at Colchester, a week later with his cock up. The guy has cost us lots of points be it early on when the whole backline wasn't performing or now. The fact the defence has performed better in recent months has only minimalised his antics. Today, yes, he saved us some points. I acknowledge that...it's about bloody time he did! Let's hope he continues to do so and stops wandering off his line when he's little chance of getting to a ball. If you was saying give the lad a chance back in agust/september when he was making alot of mistakes, now that he has improved (and you can not deny that) why are you saying thats he utter rubbish etc? Would you rather him play terrible and say oh yeah give the lad a chance, or play better than he has done earlier in season and say he rubbish? You contradict yourself. He has saved us points though, in some games he has made alot of saves that have stopped us losing, e.g. yesterday with the penalty save. Yes the defence has improved, so has the GK and defence communication, and i'll be honest, we look more secure at the back now with Brill in net, than when we had flavahan in net. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBigDog Posted March 9, 2010 Share Posted March 9, 2010 If you was saying give the lad a chance back in agust/september when he was making alot of mistakes, now that he has improved (and you can not deny that) why are you saying thats he utter rubbish etc? Would you rather him play terrible and say oh yeah give the lad a chance, or play better than he has done earlier in season and say he rubbish? You contradict yourself. He has saved us points though, in some games he has made alot of saves that have stopped us losing, e.g. yesterday with the penalty save. Yes the defence has improved, so has the GK and defence communication, and i'll be honest, we look more secure at the back now with Brill in net, than when we had flavahan in net. Definitely improved and I like the way he comes out early second half to properly warm up. As he catches the various crosses/shots he continually shouts 'keeper' or summat - he is not too bad at the moment and is actually one example of a player at Latics who has improved since he joined us Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lags Posted March 9, 2010 Share Posted March 9, 2010 Yes he has improved against the amount of unforced errors from earlier in the season and does have more confidence currently. BB80 makes reference that Brill seems to be coming out for balls he's no chance of making like the goal we conceeded recently at Wallsall. However it's a fine line for a keeper, earlier in the season he was rooted to the line when balls that are in a keepers remit become goals for the oppo. A keeper that commands his area will help out the defence a great deal as they know anything in the 8/10 yards of goal the keeper will collect which allows them to defend the box from the penalty spot and outwards. It's all about making the right choices at the right times for a keeper, whether to stay put or to go and collect. Whether he'll make the ball before the oppo and once there holding onto it. I am far happier seeing Brill venture off his line than not as him catching balls stops point blank headers which are hard to stop and allows the defenders to defend balls they should be defending. However it's the choice of decision that catches Brill out now and again and 89 mins of great work can go down the pan in that instant. Brill is not a bad keeper full stop but these bad choices needs more help and then we'll see. His recent LW interview he came across as a nice lad, made him a real person and not just someone on the pitch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBigDog Posted March 9, 2010 Share Posted March 9, 2010 (edited) Yes he has improved against the amount of unforced errors from earlier in the season and does have more confidence currently. BB80 makes reference that Brill seems to be coming out for balls he's no chance of making like the goal we conceeded recently at Wallsall. However it's a fine line for a keeper, earlier in the season he was rooted to the line when balls that are in a keepers remit become goals for the oppo. A keeper that commands his area will help out the defence a great deal as they know anything in the 8/10 yards of goal the keeper will collect which allows them to defend the box from the penalty spot and outwards. It's all about making the right choices at the right times for a keeper, whether to stay put or to go and collect. Whether he'll make the ball before the oppo and once there holding onto it. I am far happier seeing Brill venture off his line than not as him catching balls stops point blank headers which are hard to stop and allows the defenders to defend balls they should be defending. However it's the choice of decision that catches Brill out now and again and 89 mins of great work can go down the pan in that instant. Brill is not a bad keeper full stop but these bad choices needs more help and then we'll see. His recent LW interview he came across as a nice lad, made him a real person and not just someone on the pitch. I think that your point about him being a 'real person' is something that we all sometimes forget. All of these guys (and I include the management team) are just like us at the end of the day - none of them goes out to play poorly or make incorrect decisions - they are all human and ultimately doing a job. I will continue to support/criticise/ as I have always done but I'll also tinge my comments with some consideration for the man out there ( ) Edited March 9, 2010 by TheBigDog Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lags Posted March 10, 2010 Share Posted March 10, 2010 Clean sheet again last night............................but dropped three balls again and three very loose kicks early doors!!!! exactly what I've been saying, not entirely a bad a keeper but throws in some terrible gaffs. The gaffs didn't cost him last night but on another day??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lags Posted March 13, 2010 Share Posted March 13, 2010 Yet another competent display in the main with his gaff thrown in........goal. Sorry but that's what sets him apart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted March 13, 2010 Share Posted March 13, 2010 Clean sheet again last night............................but dropped three balls again and three very loose kicks early doors!!!! exactly what I've been saying, not entirely a bad a keeper but throws in some terrible gaffs. The gaffs didn't cost him last night but on another day??? You will derive no pleasure, but you saw it coming Lags. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lags Posted March 13, 2010 Share Posted March 13, 2010 Open the door for him he'll miss the handle. Non league awaits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lags Posted March 13, 2010 Share Posted March 13, 2010 (edited) You will derive no pleasure, but you saw it coming Lags. No I gain no pleasure what so ever. Absolutely none. I never ever boo at a match but on here I'll say it like it is. Edited March 13, 2010 by Lags Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Ritchie Posted March 13, 2010 Share Posted March 13, 2010 Criminal that he didn't get down to that. A lot on here defend him, but he isn't a shot stopper and we have to hope for better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
don't worry be happy Posted March 13, 2010 Share Posted March 13, 2010 Open the door for him he'll miss the handle. Non league awaits. somethings telling me that you went to today's game lags.... :grin: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lags Posted March 13, 2010 Share Posted March 13, 2010 somethings telling me that you went to today's game lags.... :grin: Aye and seen most of his other gaffs. Brill isn't totally bad, he can actually do most things, it's just that every game he does most things wrong at least once. Unfortunately for him he's the last line of defence which means goals against. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldhamoafc Posted March 13, 2010 Share Posted March 13, 2010 Not defending him or anything but the defence didnt help by not closing Betsy down and allowing him so much time and space. But yes should of been an easy save. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lags Posted March 13, 2010 Share Posted March 13, 2010 (edited) Not defending him or anything but the defence didnt help by not closing Betsy down and allowing him so much time and space. But yes should of been an easy save. Jordan would have gone down quicker on Peter Andre after the bust up than Brill did today. Brill went down in more installments than a Brighthouse £3000 loan!!! Edited March 13, 2010 by Lags Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
underdog Posted March 13, 2010 Share Posted March 13, 2010 Jordan would have gone down quicker on Peter Andre after the bust up than Brill did today. Brill went down in more installments that a Brighthouse £3000 loan!!! Ouch.....lol... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boundaryblue80 Posted March 13, 2010 Share Posted March 13, 2010 The guy is a f***ing liability!!! I literally felt rage today...don't know how I managed to contain it! I had a real dislike of Richard Butcher but this lad is seriously taking the biscuit!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeLatics Posted March 13, 2010 Share Posted March 13, 2010 I wish these muppets who go and heckle him the rest of the game would lay off, to be honest. One second where you lose concentration as a striker means absolutely nothing to anyone, you generally even get a clap if you make any kind of contact with the ball! The same error as a keeper, and suddenly you're the worst thing since God knows what! He's been solid at home recently (don't go away, so can't comment), and it's mistakes like that which are the difference between good League 1 player and good Championship player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snookmeister Posted March 14, 2010 Share Posted March 14, 2010 I wish these muppets who go and heckle him the rest of the game would lay off, to be honest. One second where you lose concentration as a striker means absolutely nothing to anyone, you generally even get a clap if you make any kind of contact with the ball! The same error as a keeper, and suddenly you're the worst thing since God knows what! He's been solid at home recently (don't go away, so can't comment), and it's mistakes like that which are the difference between good League 1 player and good Championship player. Given the severity of his blunder, I'm surprised nobody did heckle him! The lad got off very lucky indeed..... As for the rest, well that's goalkeeping for you........... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wardlelatic Posted March 14, 2010 Share Posted March 14, 2010 Brill will be dropped for the game on Tuesday Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
futchers briefs Posted March 14, 2010 Share Posted March 14, 2010 Brill will be dropped for the game on Tuesday A little whisper suggests he is a very 'decent earner!' at the club!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wardlelatic Posted March 14, 2010 Share Posted March 14, 2010 A little whisper suggests he is a very 'decent earner!' at the club!! He is the best 'earner' I hear Still think Flav will play Tues Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
futchers briefs Posted March 14, 2010 Share Posted March 14, 2010 He is the best 'earner' I hear Still think Flav will play Tues The same tongue is wetting your lugholes as well you lucky devil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lags Posted March 14, 2010 Share Posted March 14, 2010 If this clown is the top earner after suffering back to back relegations, god help us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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