Corporal_Jones Posted December 4, 2009 Share Posted December 4, 2009 Personally I really do not care if we get the standard flat pack stadium... If it is around 12k in size and easily expandable to 16k then I can accept that... I do want to make as much as the land as possible... and I want OAFC to receive the bulk of the profits... These are the important things... What the place actually looks like is the least of our concerns... The capacity is second... But the revenue potential / who owns what issues should be the first... Location... Failsworth is closer to Warrington.... Haven't we just been told that 'expansion will be difficult?' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeslover Posted December 4, 2009 Share Posted December 4, 2009 Haven't we just been told that 'expansion will be difficult?' We have. We have also seen that so is building a large stadium with massive facilities in Oldham, especially when times are hard. Is there a case for doing the best that we can? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F.O.B. Posted December 5, 2009 Share Posted December 5, 2009 (edited) Before and after at FC Twente's stadium. Was built to hold 13000, recently expanded to 23000 with the ability to put a further 10000 on. Edited December 5, 2009 by F.O.B. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diego_Sideburns Posted December 5, 2009 Share Posted December 5, 2009 Replace the red brick part with the existing listed building and Bob's your uncle! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singe Posted December 5, 2009 Share Posted December 5, 2009 (edited) Replace the red brick part with the existing listed building and Bob's your uncle! What is intersting is that, as you say, replicate that, but we have extra land and ustainable businesses. Spot on. My personal opinion is that our uniqueness should be in the sustainability and addon business and community. A new business model. Edited December 5, 2009 by singe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc0000 Posted December 5, 2009 Author Share Posted December 5, 2009 (edited) Before and after at FC Twente's stadium. Was built to hold 13000, recently expanded to 23000 with the ability to put a further 10000 on. Love it... Build it! Its going to be four separate stands though... Edited December 5, 2009 by oafc0000 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted December 5, 2009 Share Posted December 5, 2009 Having heard the new stadium will be one tier and with open corners, unfortunately I don't think we are not going get one like Molde's 12,000 capacity. stadium. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebOAFC Posted December 5, 2009 Share Posted December 5, 2009 Well if it's going to be 4 seperate one-tier stands with open corners can we not at least try and find a fjord somewhere within OMBC boundaries where we can build it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corporal_Jones Posted December 5, 2009 Share Posted December 5, 2009 We have. We have also seen that so is building a large stadium with massive facilities in Oldham, especially when times are hard. Is there a case for doing the best that we can? There might be-but 'the best we can,' in this case, will almost certainly not be enough. This town needs an established Championship side. The Failsworth proposal has smalltime tinpot outfit written all over it. Particularly as it now seems that it won't even hold the paltry 12000 that we were told we were having. (Not to mention the 'difficulty' of expanding, even were it necessary.) All this will do is satisfy the kind of supporter who treats following Latics primarily as a social thing. Nothing wrong with that, but there aren't enough of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corporal_Jones Posted December 5, 2009 Share Posted December 5, 2009 We have. We have also seen that so is building a large stadium with massive facilities in Oldham, especially when times are hard. Is there a case for doing the best that we can? In any case, almost nobody is calling for a large stadium with 'massive facilities (whatever these may be.) Most of the sceptics merely wonder why a full quarter of the capacity of the BP redevelopment was lopped off overnight with no discussion. 16000 indicated genuine Championship ambitions; 12000 or less doesn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martjs Posted December 5, 2009 Share Posted December 5, 2009 In any case, almost nobody is calling for a large stadium with 'massive facilities (whatever these may be.) Most of the sceptics merely wonder why a full quarter of the capacity of the BP redevelopment was lopped off overnight with no discussion. 16000 indicated genuine Championship ambitions; 12000 or less doesn't. +1 (and many more in the silent majority) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc0000 Posted December 5, 2009 Author Share Posted December 5, 2009 +1 (and many more in the silent majority) +2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wardlelatic Posted December 5, 2009 Share Posted December 5, 2009 I think it will be more like this.... even with the pitches around the stadium Room to fill in the corner to increase the capacity if it was ever needed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankly Mr Shankly Posted December 5, 2009 Share Posted December 5, 2009 Having heard the new stadium will be one tier and with open corners, unfortunately I don't think we are not going get one like Molde's 12,000 capacity. stadium. That's an absolutely stunning ground. What was the budget on that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singe Posted December 5, 2009 Share Posted December 5, 2009 (edited) That's an absolutely stunning ground. What was the budget on that? Somehat ironically, despite a handicap of a capacity of just over 11,000 they have managed to finish runners up in the Norwegian Prem, Get to the final of the Norwegian Cup, and qualified for the Europa Leage in 20010/11. I realise they may not be ambitious enough for some... It was built 10 years ago though, but cost NOK212, which was about £16m at the exchange rate of 0.8 in 1999. It was then converted to All seater a year later, but I dont know the cost of that. It is sponsored by the club owners company. Edited December 5, 2009 by singe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted December 5, 2009 Share Posted December 5, 2009 Somehat ironically, despite a handicap of a capacity of just over 11,000 they have managed to finish runners up in the Norwegian Prem, Get to the final of the Norwegian Cup, and qualified for the Europa Leage in 20010/11. I realise they may not be ambitious enough for some... It was built 10 years ago though, but cost NOK212, which was about £16m at the exchange rate of 0.8 in 1999. It was then converted to All seater a year later, but I dont know the cost of that. It is sponsored by the club owners company. Whos' the manager..sign him up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveoafc Posted December 5, 2009 Share Posted December 5, 2009 I think it will be more like this.... even with the pitches around the stadium Room to fill in the corner to increase the capacity if it was ever needed Please NO!!! If this is what we get then i will be seriously naffed off! I watched blackpool the other night, stadium coming along nicely, good attacking football and a great atmosphere........the exact opposite of where we are. I really fear that we will get something very similar to the shrewsbury model. The corporal makes a lot of very valid points. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
futchers briefs Posted December 5, 2009 Share Posted December 5, 2009 Please NO!!! If this is what we get then i will be seriously naffed off! I watched blackpool the other night, stadium coming along nicely, good attacking football and a great atmosphere........the exact opposite of where we are. I really fear that we will get something very similar to the shrewsbury model. The corporal makes a lot of very valid points. And for years people, including themselves and indeed us - have scorned and laughed at blackpools ground - how they were never going to finish it etc etc, yet time told and they are now beginning to reap the rewards after years of serial 'piss' taking! In their case - Rome wasn't built in a day. We are in a different situation however - but let's wait and see before the constant criticism begins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted December 5, 2009 Share Posted December 5, 2009 (edited) I think it will be more like this.... even with the pitches around the stadium Room to fill in the corner to increase the capacity if it was ever needed I wouldn't fancy being a season ticket holder near the corners in gale force winds and rain, if fact the stands look flimsy and could well all finish up on Broadway on a gusty day. Edited December 5, 2009 by BP1960 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveoafc Posted December 5, 2009 Share Posted December 5, 2009 I wouldn't fancy being a season ticket holder near the corners in gale force winds and rain, if fact the stands look flimsy and could well all finish up on Broadway on a gusty day. Maybe they fold them up and put them away in a cupboard until the next match! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singe Posted December 5, 2009 Share Posted December 5, 2009 Please NO!!! If this is what we get then i will be seriously naffed off! I watched blackpool the other night, stadium coming along nicely, good attacking football and a great atmosphere........the exact opposite of where we are. I really fear that we will get something very similar to the shrewsbury model. The corporal makes a lot of very valid points. Does he hell. He makes the same one over and over. Having said that, even he has not stooped to insisiting that it looks pretty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted December 5, 2009 Share Posted December 5, 2009 Does he hell. He makes the same one over and over. Having said that, even he has not stooped to insisiting that it looks pretty. Neither have Oldham Council with the Town Hall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corporal_Jones Posted December 6, 2009 Share Posted December 6, 2009 Does he hell. He makes the same one over and over. Having said that, even he has not stooped to insisiting that it looks pretty. When it comes to what's happening to this club, there's really only one point worth making. The new Rochdale or Bury comes closer with every passing day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corporal_Jones Posted December 6, 2009 Share Posted December 6, 2009 Somehat ironically, despite a handicap of a capacity of just over 11,000 they have managed to finish runners up in the Norwegian Prem, Get to the final of the Norwegian Cup, and qualified for the Europa Leage in 20010/11. I realise they may not be ambitious enough for some... It was built 10 years ago though, but cost NOK212, which was about £16m at the exchange rate of 0.8 in 1999. It was then converted to All seater a year later, but I dont know the cost of that. It is sponsored by the club owners company. This isn't Norway. Norway has at least ten times fewer people. 11000 over there is a top PL attendance. The nodding dogs really can be desperate sometimes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafcforever Posted December 6, 2009 Share Posted December 6, 2009 (edited) If the TTA are seriously going to consider the fans opinions, I don't mind moving to Failsworth but for me the ground has got to be a replica of Molde's, our very own Oldham Arena none of this nonsense with no corners filled in. We don't want to have a copy of these 'new' grounds we want an Arena which will be different and may even help us create a better atmosphere! Edited December 6, 2009 by oafcforever Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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