Bring Back Ronnie Moore Posted December 5, 2009 Share Posted December 5, 2009 (edited) Why would Keith Hill come here? This time next year there is a good chance Dale will be a league above us Chance being the operative word. If he came here and believed enough in his ability to keep us up then that's all the motivation he needs. At this moment in time we're in a better position than Rochdale in pretty much every aspect. If Rochdale go up will they stay up? That's a critical question he'd have to answer. Where as if he came here and kept us up then he has a chance to build a new team. He can work on a budget and he's got a decent record when it comes to signings. Our fully fit team is more than capable of a mid table finish, we're not no hopers, he'd be taking on a team with some promising and established players, he'd have to weed out the deadwood. Edited December 5, 2009 by Bring Back Pukka Pies Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_Og Posted December 5, 2009 Share Posted December 5, 2009 Chance being the operative word. If he came here and believed enough in his ability to keep us up then that's all the motivation he needs. At this moment in time we're in a better position than Rochdale in pretty much every aspect. If Rochdale go up will they stay up? That's a critical question he'd have to answer. Where as if he came here and kept us up then he has a chance to build a new team. He can work on a budget and he's got a decent record when it comes to signings. Our fully fit team is more than capable of a mid table finish, we're not no hopers, he'd be taking on a team with some promising and established players, he'd have to weed out the deadwood. How are we better than Rochdale at the moment? Every aspect? You have to be kidding Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lookers_Carl Posted December 5, 2009 Share Posted December 5, 2009 You know, TTA have made some pretty bad decisions regarding managers, but whenever they have secured a new manager not one, and I mean not a single soul came on ranting and raving about it being the wrong choice. Not until hindsight has well and truly taken over. They've tried everything, from cult heroes (Shez, BF Joe), managers with track records of promotions (Talbot, Moore) and now opting for a no-nonsense manager who knows the lower leagues (Penney). Whilst the jury is well and truly out with him, you have to admit that picking a manager to take us on and give us a team to be proud of hasn't been easy. In fact, if anything, they've pressed the trigger at the wrong times. Partially agree Talbot: Wrong appointment, and thought that at the time he was appointed. The only reason he had a record of promotions is because Rushden give him an open chequebook. Done buggar all here, at Oxford and with WBA where he had to work within a budget. Moore: Agreed. At the time he was seen as a coup for us, and although not my fav manager, I think he deserved another year. Shez: At the time I thought he was the cheap option. He was sacked at the wrong time in my opinion, and I also think it was pointless bringing Royle in for nine games. They could have brought in a manager who could have give his team 9 games to show that why they deserve to be here, and make his own judgement on the players we have as opposed to relying on somebody elses judgement Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcvitieman Posted December 5, 2009 Share Posted December 5, 2009 You know, TTA have made some pretty bad decisions regarding managers, but whenever they have secured a new manager not one, and I mean not a single soul came on ranting and raving about it being the wrong choice. Not until hindsight has well and truly taken over. They've tried everything, from cult heroes (Shez, BF Joe), managers with track records of promotions (Talbot, Moore) and now opting for a no-nonsense manager who knows the lower leagues (Penney). Whilst the jury is well and truly out with him, you have to admit that picking a manager to take us on and give us a team to be proud of hasn't been easy. In fact, if anything, they've pressed the trigger at the wrong times. I agree they have but penneys permanent signings have left a lot to be desired , apart from abbott,60,000 for colbeck what a waste of money , parker i,ve seen more commitment and passion in a corpse and the rest have either been injured or not played because of injuries which afew of them came with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc0000 Posted December 5, 2009 Share Posted December 5, 2009 Partially agree Talbot: Wrong appointment, and thought that at the time he was appointed. The only reason he had a record of promotions is because Rushden give him an open chequebook. Done buggar all here, at Oxford and with WBA where he had to work within a budget. Moore: Agreed. At the time he was seen as a coup for us, and although not my fav manager, I think he deserved another year. Shez: At the time I thought he was the cheap option. He was sacked at the wrong time in my opinion, and I also think it was pointless bringing Royle in for nine games. They could have brought in a manager who could have give his team 9 games to show that why they deserve to be here, and make his own judgement on the players we have as opposed to relying on somebody elses judgement Spot on... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobOAFC Posted December 5, 2009 Share Posted December 5, 2009 If the TTA decides penney should go, then my preferred choices would be duxbury or philishirk philishirk wud be first choice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc0000 Posted December 5, 2009 Share Posted December 5, 2009 Philishirk He dose not want it mate... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
opinions4u Posted December 5, 2009 Share Posted December 5, 2009 (edited) philishirk wud be first choice Quick question: Is our youth set-up really that great? Getting a bit fed up of promising youngsters coming through and not quite making it. (this is not an anti-TP post, but I don't seem to be seeing anything beyond ordinary). Edited December 5, 2009 by opinions4u Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lookers_Carl Posted December 5, 2009 Share Posted December 5, 2009 If the TTA decides penney should go, then my preferred choices would be duxbury or philishirk philishirk wud be first choice Good lord no Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_mighty_bosh Posted December 5, 2009 Share Posted December 5, 2009 heffernan was supposed to come in and make a difference ,he gets taken off 4 mins into 2nd half and replaced with one of the worst players that has pulled on a latics shirt, that tells me penney is tactically inept and should go before he is pushed. Or that Heff was injured. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
100mphplus Posted December 5, 2009 Share Posted December 5, 2009 I'd get rid now and bring Ferguson in. It kind of summed up to me how good/influential Penney is on the calibre of loanees he can pull in, Shez used to be able to get players from premier league clubs, we get a player 'to rescue us' who can't get in a lowly placed Championship team!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yard Dog Posted December 5, 2009 Share Posted December 5, 2009 Give the man 2 full seasons, if not 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bring Back Ronnie Moore Posted December 5, 2009 Share Posted December 5, 2009 How are we better than Rochdale at the moment? Every aspect? You have to be kidding Because we're still higher than them and we're not in a position where it's very likely we'll go down. They have a bigger fight to get promoted than we do to survive. Look at the 07/08 season, we are pretty much in the same position now as were were then, and we finished 11th or something despite not really going on a run of form, we just managed a few more wins here and there (mainly at home). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcvitieman Posted December 5, 2009 Share Posted December 5, 2009 Give the man 2 full seasons, if not 3 so you want to watch non league football Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_mighty_bosh Posted December 5, 2009 Share Posted December 5, 2009 I'd get rid now and bring Ferguson in. It kind of summed up to me how good/influential Penney is on the calibre of loanees he can pull in, Shez used to be able to get players from premier league clubs, we get a player 'to rescue us' who can't get in a lowly placed Championship team!! Bad argument mate. Heff may or may not come good. But Shez's "Premier League" loanees certainly didn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senor_Coconut Posted December 5, 2009 Share Posted December 5, 2009 I'd get rid now and bring Ferguson in. It kind of summed up to me how good/influential Penney is on the calibre of loanees he can pull in, Shez used to be able to get players from premier league clubs, we get a player 'to rescue us' who can't get in a lowly placed Championship team!! :censored: and Blackman play for who exactly? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc1955 Posted December 5, 2009 Share Posted December 5, 2009 I don't think it would make much difference if we sacked Penney as we will still have the same squad, however if we are in the relegation places come the January window, TTA may have no choice. I think they would be loathe to give Penney more cash, especially with the standard of signings he has made to date! Relegation would be a total disaster for this club and I think it would cement our status, new ground or not, as a permanent lower league outfit!! We are almost halfway through the season and our record is absolutely diabolical!!! P W D L F A G/D Pts 20 5 6 9 15 25 -10 21 We have to hope that when we get clear of injuries we will be able to climb the table, but on current form ( 6 points out of a possible 30 )we would be lucky to break the 40 point barrier which would make us certainties for the drop!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beag_teeets Posted December 5, 2009 Share Posted December 5, 2009 Every thing the club has ever done has been wrong and I said so at the time. If they sack Penney now it is wrong the same as if they stick with him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_Og Posted December 5, 2009 Share Posted December 5, 2009 Because we're still higher than them and we're not in a position where it's very likely we'll go down. They have a bigger fight to get promoted than we do to survive. Look at the 07/08 season, we are pretty much in the same position now as were were then, and we finished 11th or something despite not really going on a run of form, we just managed a few more wins here and there (mainly at home). If you think that's true you're kidding yourself. Rochdale are odds onto go up, and good luck to them. It certainly doesn';t address every aspect because apart from the 5 league posstions I can't think of any aspect in which we are bettter off than Dale. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lookers_Carl Posted December 5, 2009 Share Posted December 5, 2009 Sheridans last 10 games as manager W2 D4 L4 Penneys last 10 league games W1 D3 L6 Regardless of whether people like Penney or not these are the cold hard stats at the mo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Latics_Fanatic Posted December 5, 2009 Share Posted December 5, 2009 In responce to the topic title and first post please shut up! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcvitieman Posted December 5, 2009 Share Posted December 5, 2009 In responce to the topic title and first post please shut up! why? is that you don,t agree or are you in the pocket of somebody at the club Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Latics_Fanatic Posted December 5, 2009 Share Posted December 5, 2009 why? is that you don,t agree or are you in the pocket of somebody at the club i dont agree - Penney should be given more time, sacking managers is not the answer at ths moment in time! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigfinLatic Posted December 5, 2009 Share Posted December 5, 2009 I'd get rid now and bring Ferguson in. Everyone is entitled to thier opinion. Except when it is as delusional as this. Anyone who thinks that we have a sod in hell's chance of getting Ferguson should be put in a padded cell. Give it up. Oldham must be one of the biggest managerial poison challices in the division. Poor team, Poor Budget, Owners that wants out, in freefall in the league. The only thing that we can hope for is that Penney turns us round, because the only people that would want the latcs job are the desperate failure journeyman managers who couldnt get a job anywhere else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcvitieman Posted December 5, 2009 Share Posted December 5, 2009 i dont agree - Penney should be given more time, sacking managers is not the answer at ths moment in time! when is it right then 3 games to go and you need 10 points , Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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