Lags Posted March 8, 2010 Share Posted March 8, 2010 bp will not be redeveloped by these owners. if failsworth falls through then i can see them finally lose patience and sell up,so there is no saying any new buyer or investors wont develop bp is there.... which is what i was trying to say further up the thread. They will develope the land with houses before they depart. Unless someone pays them enough to cover what they'd make. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edhunteruk Posted March 8, 2010 Share Posted March 8, 2010 They will develope the land with houses before they depart. Unless someone pays them enough to cover what they'd make. proof??? they have said all along that the area behind rre would be developed....they also said the area closest to little wembly would be developed... they cant sell the land the actual ground is on while the club is still there,the fa wont allow it to happen. like i said,if failsworth falls then they will sell the club and leave....nothing to say at all new owners wouldnt redevlop bp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lags Posted March 8, 2010 Share Posted March 8, 2010 (edited) They also said BP will be redeveloped...and on and on and on we go. It's my opinion nothing more, nothing less. Reached at by all the false dawns of presentations gone. Whilst I don't know for sure if the FA can stop them selling the ground I wouldn't have thought so, cos TTA if they wanted to they could just close Latics down full stop. They own it. Edited March 8, 2010 by Lags Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singe Posted March 8, 2010 Share Posted March 8, 2010 Then they'll get low prices. Still the owners of the new houses will then get a mega windfall when the playing surfaces becomes Boundary Avenue. This is the bit that everyone seems to have forgotten. The amount they get back is significantly less mega because of the Recession. Therefore the sums do not add up. We need the difference between selling BP and buying Failsworth to pay for all the extras to enable self sufficiency and leave a bit in the bank each month. Otherwise we have an overdraft. So we cannot afford to do up our house as we have no money to do it. Bascially we are moving to a cheaper area to get more land. So we cannot afford to redvelop BP, we have not got the money, and on one will lend it us. Many of those companies that would before have had the banks refuse to lend them. How much does everyone thingk it will cost to redvelop BP? Seems to me many are underestimating this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lags Posted March 8, 2010 Share Posted March 8, 2010 This is the bit that everyone seems to have forgotten. The amount they get back is significantly less mega because of the Recession. Therefore the sums do not add up. We need the difference between selling BP and buying Failsworth to pay for all the extras to enable self sufficiency and leave a bit in the bank each month. Otherwise we have an overdraft. So we cannot afford to do up our house as we have no money to do it. Bascially we are moving to a cheaper area to get more land. So we cannot afford to redvelop BP, we have not got the money, and on one will lend it us. Many of those companies that would before have had the banks refuse to lend them. How much does everyone thingk it will cost to redvelop BP? Seems to me many are underestimating this. I'd of thought if you built an identical stadium at BP and Failsworth the actual buildings would cost the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alec1954 Posted March 8, 2010 Share Posted March 8, 2010 I think that I am correct in saying that BAe have recently been hit by a mega US penalty due to Saudi Dealings and they probably needed to sell unused assets to generate cash. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveoafc Posted March 8, 2010 Author Share Posted March 8, 2010 I know TTA and the owner of the land at ferney field had a falling out...Is this situation irreperable? Also i noticed there seems to be plenty of land around the high crompton area of shaw. Would this be ruled out due to traffic problems? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lags Posted March 8, 2010 Share Posted March 8, 2010 I know TTA and the owner of the land at ferney field had a falling out...Is this situation irreperable? Also i noticed there seems to be plenty of land around the high crompton area of shaw. Would this be ruled out due to traffic problems? It doesn't matter now unfortunately. It as been stated as a fact that it's Failworth or nothing. There is no other option. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edhunteruk Posted March 8, 2010 Share Posted March 8, 2010 I'd of thought if you built an identical stadium at BP and Failsworth the actual buildings would cost the same. yes but we dont have to build a stdium at bp though do we... we just need to build a new main stand where the lookers used to be,and possibly stick a new roof on the chaddy,the rre is the newest stand so thats fine and the existing main stand could be turned into something like the lookers was,with bars n food in it. i doubt it would cost the 20 million being touted about to build the failsworth dream machine either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lags Posted March 8, 2010 Share Posted March 8, 2010 yes but we dont have to build a stdium at bp though do we... we just need to build a new main stand where the lookers used to be,and possibly stick a new roof on the chaddy,the rre is the newest stand so thats fine and the existing main stand could be turned into something like the lookers was,with bars n food in it. i doubt it would cost the 20 million being touted about to build the failsworth dream machine either. It is my belief BP will disappear Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edhunteruk Posted March 8, 2010 Share Posted March 8, 2010 It doesn't matter now unfortunately. It as been stated as a fact that it's Failworth or nothing. There is no other option. the scenario of this charitable trust threatening to go to the high court over this piece of land at the memorial park,making the council back out of the deal could happen. if it did i think that the council would be duty bound to come up with a suitable alternative site wether this be brown belt green belt or whatever. the only thing i find totally bemusing in this whole failsworth shceme,is the fact tta have bought the areospace land first,before securing planning consent. you would of thought they would have done there homework regarding this piece of land and the possibility it might not be able to be leased before spending a reported 3.5 million pounds on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted March 8, 2010 Share Posted March 8, 2010 TTA should inform fans what their intentions are if the Failsworth stadium plans fall through and end all this speculation - Will they develop BP, look for another location, or opt for a ground share with another local club ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlossopLatic Posted March 8, 2010 Share Posted March 8, 2010 When is the next fans forum someone may wish to bring this up I share Lags concerns about this why we need to build now when we have no planning permission for our new home it could well leave us in limbo if failsworth falls through. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lags Posted March 8, 2010 Share Posted March 8, 2010 TTA should inform fans what their intentions are if the Failsworth stadium plans fall through and end all this speculation - Will they develop BP, look for another location, or opt for a ground share with another local club ? I asked it at the last forum. The answer was Failsworth is the only option and no plan B exists. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted March 8, 2010 Share Posted March 8, 2010 I asked it at the last forum. The answer was Failsworth is the only option and no plan B exists. It still doesn't answer what they will do Lags. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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