LaticsLee Posted May 11, 2010 Share Posted May 11, 2010 (edited) http://www.oldhamathletic.co.uk/page/NewsU...2049162,00.html this could only help the club surley ? Edited May 11, 2010 by LaticsLee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankly Mr Shankly Posted May 11, 2010 Share Posted May 11, 2010 http://www.oldhamathletic.co.uk/page/NewsU...2049162,00.html this could only help the club surley ? In a word, no. It's a sad day really, looking at the bigger picture. Very sad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaticsLee Posted May 11, 2010 Author Share Posted May 11, 2010 In a word, no. It's a sad day really, looking at the bigger picture. Very sad. sorry but can you explain why im confused ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garcon Posted May 11, 2010 Share Posted May 11, 2010 On the face of it, it's a decent sized increase in cash that will help in the very short term. But I agree - looking at the bigger picture, the factions within and the way things are shifting longer term, it's bad. Within a decade we'll have a two division Premier League and a semi-pro 'Football League' with very little interchange between the two. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc0000 Posted May 11, 2010 Share Posted May 11, 2010 Very angry at the club for voting to accept this... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaticsLee Posted May 11, 2010 Author Share Posted May 11, 2010 i dont know if im just plain dumb or what but can someone please explain to me why this is very bad ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garcon Posted May 11, 2010 Share Posted May 11, 2010 Very angry at the club for voting to accept this... We were left with very little choice. It's basically blackmail I know, but if we didn't accept we'd have ended up with nothing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc0000 Posted May 11, 2010 Share Posted May 11, 2010 i dont know if im just plain dumb or what but can someone please explain to me why this is very bad ? Do the maths... Its a slow death for the football league... Prem 2 in the future, first not by name but going forward it will... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc0000 Posted May 11, 2010 Share Posted May 11, 2010 We were left with very little choice. It's basically blackmail I know, but if we didn't accept we'd have ended up with nothing. I disagree... We should of voted no... and gone for broke... Rolling over and agreeing to something which is another step to death is pointless... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankly Mr Shankly Posted May 11, 2010 Share Posted May 11, 2010 Very angry at the club for voting to accept this... Definitely. It's basically just about sealed us in Divisions 3 and 4 indefinitely, making even promotion into the Championship even harder without considerable financial backing. Yes, the squeeze was being put on to accept it, but the spineless attitude and complete greed by Championship clubs is sickening in all honesty. I knew it was going this way anyway, but yesterday was monumental in nailing that coffin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaticsPete Posted May 11, 2010 Share Posted May 11, 2010 Most of the League 1 and 2 clubs were between a rock and a hard place. Vote against and every likelihood of them getting nowt and some of the Championship clubs setting up Premier 2. Accept and the gulf between ex-Prem clubs and the rest gets bigger. Realpolitik won the day. The argument wasn't about winning the hearts and minds of clubs like Latics - they had us by the nadgers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc0000 Posted May 11, 2010 Share Posted May 11, 2010 You have to be prepared to draw a line in the sand and say no more at some point... If we are never prepared to draw that line we will continue to be sidelined... We should of stood firm and appealed to the good nature of most fans across the country to push for change... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longtimeblue Posted May 11, 2010 Share Posted May 11, 2010 An complete reversal to a bad decision in 92. Thinking we we're above our station and now effectively accepting lower league mediocrity. Hands were probably tied this time in truth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc0000 Posted May 11, 2010 Share Posted May 11, 2010 Hands were probably tied this time in truth. You mean the focus is on the short term and not the long term like pretty much everything else ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longtimeblue Posted May 11, 2010 Share Posted May 11, 2010 You mean the focus is on the short term and not the long term like pretty much everything else ... Undoubtedly with the current owners Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lookers_Carl Posted May 11, 2010 Share Posted May 11, 2010 It seems inevitable we are heading for a two tier premier league, with the rest of the clubs becoming as good as non league Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
24hoursfromtulsehill Posted May 11, 2010 Share Posted May 11, 2010 You mean the focus is on the short term and not the long term like pretty much everything else ... The greedy league is killing football in the name of profit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaticsLee Posted May 11, 2010 Author Share Posted May 11, 2010 premier league is and always has been based around big money, that will never change. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc0000 Posted May 11, 2010 Share Posted May 11, 2010 premier league is and always has been based around big money, that will never change. Yes, and we voted for it last time and we have done it again... B******s! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EASTLEY Posted May 11, 2010 Share Posted May 11, 2010 i dont know if im just plain dumb or what but can someone please explain to me why this is very bad ? The gulf between the relegated clubs(from the Premiership) and those in the championship just got much wider meaning they have more chance of sustaining life at the top of the chmpionship/bottom of the prem. This means their value will go up and they will be able to attract more investment as they are seen to have a more viable product with a good channce of the exposure the prem gives you. This means you will in effect see 2 leagues in the championship. Coupled with this transfer fees and wages will be driven up as more money becomes available to be spent on players. Even worse the gap between championship and Leagues 1 and 2 mean that the chances of clubs like Oldham a/ having the chance to get to the championship and b/ being able to survive there have just taken a massive backward step. Bigger clubs than us with deeper pockets will invest to get into that league and then will invest to stay up. We don't have the fanbase or pockets to sustain that challenge, the wage bill for average players will increase and eventually the top divisions will become a closed shop. Also the bigger clubs will not develop as many home grown players if the premiership is a gauge to work off but will purchase more average foreign players on inflated wages as in truth this is the cheaper option. For every player that makes it there are many many more that don't. Already the only difference between this and Mr Gartside's proposal is that there is still promotion and relegation in place...............at the moment. Does anyone have the percentage split of wealth across the 4 divisons pre-premier league and now, that should give a view as to why this is bad for Englsih football as a whole? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tangerinedreams Posted May 11, 2010 Share Posted May 11, 2010 I never agreed with the parachute payments going on for 4 years, it'll be the same old teams bouncing between the 2 leagues now forever in a day. Nothing like a level playing field is there! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longtimeblue Posted May 11, 2010 Share Posted May 11, 2010 (edited) misread Edited May 11, 2010 by longtimeblue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tangerinedreams Posted May 11, 2010 Share Posted May 11, 2010 Very angry at the club for voting to accept this... What other options were open for the club? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lookers_Carl Posted May 11, 2010 Share Posted May 11, 2010 The gulf between the relegated clubs(from the Premiership) and those in the championship just got much wider meaning they have more chance of sustaining life at the top of the chmpionship/bottom of the prem. This means their value will go up and they will be able to attract more investment as they are seen to have a more viable product with a good channce of the exposure the prem gives you. This means you will in effect see 2 leagues in the championship. Coupled with this transfer fees and wages will be driven up as more money becomes available to be spent on players. Even worse the gap between championship and Leagues 1 and 2 mean that the chances of clubs like Oldham a/ having the chance to get to the championship and b/ being able to survive there have just taken a massive backward step. Bigger clubs than us with deeper pockets will invest to get into that league and then will invest to stay up. We don't have the fanbase or pockets to sustain that challenge, the wage bill for average players will increase and eventually the top divisions will become a closed shop. Also the bigger clubs will not develop as many home grown players if the premiership is a gauge to work off but will purchase more average foreign players on inflated wages as in truth this is the cheaper option. For every player that makes it there are many many more that don't. Already the only difference between this and Mr Gartside's proposal is that there is still promotion and relegation in place...............at the moment. Does anyone have the percentage split of wealth across the 4 divisons pre-premier league and now, that should give a view as to why this is bad for Englsih football as a whole? In a nutshell, clubs promoted from League 1 to the championship will probably not have a hope in hell of competing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankly Mr Shankly Posted May 11, 2010 Share Posted May 11, 2010 The gulf between the relegated clubs(from the Premiership) and those in the championship just got much wider meaning they have more chance of sustaining life at the top of the chmpionship/bottom of the prem. This means their value will go up and they will be able to attract more investment as they are seen to have a more viable product with a good channce of the exposure the prem gives you. This means you will in effect see 2 leagues in the championship. Coupled with this transfer fees and wages will be driven up as more money becomes available to be spent on players. Even worse the gap between championship and Leagues 1 and 2 mean that the chances of clubs like Oldham a/ having the chance to get to the championship and b/ being able to survive there have just taken a massive backward step. Bigger clubs than us with deeper pockets will invest to get into that league and then will invest to stay up. We don't have the fanbase or pockets to sustain that challenge, the wage bill for average players will increase and eventually the top divisions will become a closed shop. Also the bigger clubs will not develop as many home grown players if the premiership is a gauge to work off but will purchase more average foreign players on inflated wages as in truth this is the cheaper option. For every player that makes it there are many many more that don't. Already the only difference between this and Mr Gartside's proposal is that there is still promotion and relegation in place...............at the moment. Does anyone have the percentage split of wealth across the 4 divisons pre-premier league and now, that should give a view as to why this is bad for Englsih football as a whole? Well put Eastley. Spot on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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