oafcmetty Posted May 29, 2010 Share Posted May 29, 2010 Mexico out played us for a time but that doesn't show why we aren't very good that shows that Mexico (who've got quite a decent record in recent world cups) are not that bad. However, unluckily for them they're in the same group as the hosts and I can't remember the last time a host failed to get past the group stage. SA are gash - I'd be surprised if they got out of their group. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve_R Posted May 29, 2010 Share Posted May 29, 2010 The thing about England this time is that for the first time I can remember we do have one of the geniune world class match winners in our side in Rooney. In the past we've always hyped up our main man or men way beyond their ability a la Beckham, Gerrard,etc, even going way back to the likes of Robson and Keegan. For me the only one to compare with him is Gascoigne, and he came from nowhere in 1990 and was never the same after that tackle in the 1991 FA Cup final. If everyone plays to their absolute maximum and Rooney is and can stay 100% fit then we have a chance, but I still feel we'll cock it up somewhere along the line and that Spain, Brazil and possibly Holland are better than us anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudemedic Posted May 29, 2010 Share Posted May 29, 2010 SA are gash - I'd be surprised if they got out of their group. I would heartily agree with you but South Korea weren't very good in 02 and they got to the semis. The Yanks were awful in 94 and they got to the second round. Mexico were bad in 86 and 70 and they got to the QF. Home advantage plays just as big a role in international games as it does in domestic games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yard Dog Posted May 29, 2010 Share Posted May 29, 2010 I think England are somewhere between the fifth and tenth best team in the world - based on this, I think we will get to the QF and then probably go out, unless the draw is kind to us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
underdog Posted May 29, 2010 Author Share Posted May 29, 2010 (edited) oh bugger!!!!!!!!! On the basis on the votes so far, I'm going to lose...damn and blast...tut. My hubby is on for romance then......this is no good for my image at all. But I have got to say I agree (ye gods!!) with 0000 - quarters if we're lucky. We have a very dodgy defence when the ball goes straight down the middle we open wider than a lady of the night. Needs sorting please Edited May 29, 2010 by underdog Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spadam Posted May 29, 2010 Share Posted May 29, 2010 Mexico out played us for a time but that doesn't show why we aren't very good that shows that Mexico (who've got quite a decent record in recent world cups) are not that bad. However, unluckily for them they're in the same group as the hosts and I can't remember the last time a host failed to get past the group stage. The hosts have never failed to get pasted the group stage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
creepy Posted May 29, 2010 Share Posted May 29, 2010 what a shame it would be if Capello plays Gerrard on the left second half against Mexico he was one of our best players play Gerrard behind Rooney, or give them free roles and its the semi's at least for us Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafcmetty Posted May 29, 2010 Share Posted May 29, 2010 The hosts have never failed to get pasted the group stage. First time for everything. SA 6/4 favourites to finish bottom of group A. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeslover Posted May 29, 2010 Share Posted May 29, 2010 The thing about England this time is that for the first time I can remember we do have one of the geniune world class match winners in our side in Rooney. In the past we've always hyped up our main man or men way beyond their ability a la Beckham, Gerrard,etc, even going way back to the likes of Robson and Keegan. For me the only one to compare with him is Gascoigne, and he came from nowhere in 1990 and was never the same after that tackle in the 1991 FA Cup final. If everyone plays to their absolute maximum and Rooney is and can stay 100% fit then we have a chance, but I still feel we'll cock it up somewhere along the line and that Spain, Brazil and possibly Holland are better than us anyway. From a less partial perspective, the world media is salivating over what Rooney might do. I've seen at least two Emirati papers pick him out as the man who might make the difference in the whole tournament, although they go down the Spain consensus about who are clearly the best team (and they are). If he tears it up then the rest of them might be good enough for us to pull it off with the wind behind us on a downhill gradient. If not, I think we will be :censored:e. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rosa Posted May 29, 2010 Share Posted May 29, 2010 Rooney will break a metatarsal 15 minutes into England's first game and Peter Crouch will finish England's top scorer. I don't know why but i'm completely convinced this will happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeslover Posted May 29, 2010 Share Posted May 29, 2010 Rooney will break a metatarsal 15 minutes into England's first game and Peter Crouch will finish England's top scorer. I don't know why but i'm completely convinced this will happen. You read my mind about the first bit. I was hoping he would break it 3 months ago to give him time to get back up to speed. We could have won 2004 if he had been OK, he was making that much of a difference. Incidentally the only time I was really excited about a tournament and the last time I smoked a legal cigarette. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
don't worry be happy Posted May 29, 2010 Share Posted May 29, 2010 You read my mind about the first bit. I was hoping he would break it 3 months ago to give him time to get back up to speed. We could have won 2004 if he had been OK, he was making that much of a difference. Incidentally the only time I was really excited about a tournament and the last time I smoked a legal cigarette. :grin: Keep yer chin up fella :grin: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafcprozac Posted May 30, 2010 Share Posted May 30, 2010 :grin: Keep yer chin up fella :grin: Think we're being overhyped, I'd love to be wrong but I think we'll go out in the 1/4s - even progressing beyond the second round may be a struggle as we are likely to be playing Australia or Germany. AND if we don't beat USA 57-0 in the first game, the tabloids will destroy the team as per usual.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crusoe Posted May 30, 2010 Share Posted May 30, 2010 If we play anything like we are now, we'll be out before the QFs... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
opinions4u Posted May 30, 2010 Share Posted May 30, 2010 Worrying a bit about the penalty shoot out scenario! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldhamSheridan Posted May 30, 2010 Share Posted May 30, 2010 There's a fair few players there that have played themselves onto the plane to South Africa. Heskey, Adam Johnson, Baines, King... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
opinions4u Posted May 30, 2010 Share Posted May 30, 2010 There's a fair few players there that have played themselves onto the plane to South Africa. Heskey, Adam Johnson, Baines, King... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldhamSheridan Posted May 30, 2010 Share Posted May 30, 2010 :censored:! 3-0 to Japan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ackey Posted May 30, 2010 Share Posted May 30, 2010 :censored:! 3-0 to Japan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
opinions4u Posted May 30, 2010 Share Posted May 30, 2010 Sides that play :censored:e but win .... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gentleman Posted May 30, 2010 Share Posted May 30, 2010 This is our year! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
underdog Posted May 30, 2010 Author Share Posted May 30, 2010 This is our year! ..to be out by the quarters....... Unless the other teams aren't going to turn up...hmmm then yes I'd say we were in with a chance. Looks like I might win the bet yet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ernie For England Posted May 31, 2010 Share Posted May 31, 2010 We've played :censored: in two games this week and won them both. Thats the sign of champions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafcprozac Posted May 31, 2010 Share Posted May 31, 2010 We've played :censored: in two games this week and won them both. Thats the sign of champions. or delusion! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldhamSheridan Posted May 31, 2010 Share Posted May 31, 2010 We've played :censored: in two games this week and won them both. Thats the sign of champions. Indeed it is: http://www.soccerbase.com/results3.sd?gameid=589620 http://www.soccerbase.com/results3.sd?gameid=590070 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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