opinions4u Posted May 30, 2010 Share Posted May 30, 2010 (edited) Green Hart James A Cole Ferdinand Terry Johnson Baines King Dawson Carragher Warnock Upson Gerrard Barry (if fit) Lampard Lennon Walcott Milner Cole Johnson Carrick Huddlestone Parker Wright-Phillips Rooney Crouch Heskey Defoe Bent Bolded players to go, leave the others behind. I think my risk is going with 5 strikers (if you call Heskey a striker) might leave the midfield lacking solidity. Any improvements on this folks? Edited May 30, 2010 by opinions4u Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldhamSheridan Posted May 30, 2010 Share Posted May 30, 2010 From that Dawson out, Upson in. Bent out, and one of Huddlestone or Carrick in. Need another defensive midfielder if Barry is so iffy. The only problem being that neither of those two are especially of that ilk; the only one being Parker - but I think there's as much chance of me getting the chance to measure up page 3 girls as there is of Parker getting his dream come true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fleetwood Blue Posted May 30, 2010 Share Posted May 30, 2010 Green Hart James A Cole Ferdinand Terry Johnson Baines King Carragher Upson Gerrard Barry Lampard Walcott Milner Cole Carrick Wright-Phillips Rooney Crouch Defoe Bent I bet Parker must be gutted to watch his world cup dream shattered as he more or less kept West Ham up on his own, i would also play Ledley King before Terry if he remains fit. My starting 11 would be: Hart Johnson Ferdinand King A.Cole Milner Lampard Barry J.Cole Gerrard Rooney All depends on Barry being fit though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldhamSheridan Posted May 30, 2010 Share Posted May 30, 2010 I'd be surprised if (barring injury) the starting eleven isn't: GK: Green LB: Cole RB: Johnson CB: Terry CB: Ferdinand DMC: Barry AMC: Lampard LM: Gerrard RM: Walcott CF: Rooney CF: Crouch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
opinions4u Posted May 30, 2010 Author Share Posted May 30, 2010 (edited) I'd be surprised if (barring injury) the starting eleven isn't: GK: Green LB: Cole RB: Johnson CB: Terry CB: Ferdinand DMC: Barry AMC: Lampard LM: Gerrard RM: Walcott CF: Rooney CF: Crouch I think that's the team Capello would pick. I'd probably go for Lennon over Walcott. But I suspect both will play most games, and rarely be on the pitch at the same time! There is also the Milner factor (against stronger opposition). From that Dawson out, Upson in. Bent out, and one of Huddlestone or Carrick in. Need another defensive midfielder if Barry is so iffy. Ledley King? Jamie Carragher? Edited May 30, 2010 by opinions4u Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc0000 Posted May 30, 2010 Share Posted May 30, 2010 (edited) Green Hart James A Cole Ferdinand Terry Johnson Baines King Dawson Carragher Warnock Upson Gerrard Barry (if fit) else Huddlestone Lampard Lennon Walcott Milner Cole Johnson Carrick Parker Wright-Phillips Rooney Crouch Heskey Defoe Bent Edited May 30, 2010 by oafc0000 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldhamSheridan Posted May 30, 2010 Share Posted May 30, 2010 Ledley King? Jamie Carragher? Well Carragher just isn't a midfielder. King, granted has played there before and done well - but he himself carries his own risks, and certainly can't be depended upon to play two games in a number of days. I just think we need the depth there more than a forward, where if we are running low we can shove Gerrard up to play 'in the hole' <cough>. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc0000 Posted May 30, 2010 Share Posted May 30, 2010 (edited) Well Carragher just isn't a midfielder. Agreed... Although in a an emergency situation Carragher could step in and fill the void some what... For me Carragher would be one of my certain to go's... Just due to the number of positions he can cover... Edited May 30, 2010 by oafc0000 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
opinions4u Posted May 30, 2010 Author Share Posted May 30, 2010 For me Carragher would be one of my certain to go's... Just due to the number of positions he can cover... After the season he's had, he shouldn't really be in contention (ignoring the fact he'd "retired"). But like you I think that versatility is important. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldhamSheridan Posted May 30, 2010 Share Posted May 30, 2010 After the season he's had, he shouldn't really be in contention (ignoring the fact he'd "retired"). But like you I think that versatility is important. The only irony is that the retired player he managed to talk into coming back was the past it donkey rather than the wizard in midfield. I have to say i don't understand Scholes' reasoning on this one. It's not prolonging his career any further by not going. NB. I too would take Carragher for the reasons given by your good selves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
opinions4u Posted May 30, 2010 Author Share Posted May 30, 2010 The only irony is that the retired player he managed to talk into coming back was the past it donkey rather than the wizard in midfield. I have to say i don't understand Scholes' reasoning on this one. It's not prolonging his career any further by not going. NB. I too would take Carragher for the reasons given by your good selves. On first thoughts I wouldn't even have Scholes in contention. But when you look at the possibility of no Barry, there's not a lot of grit in the middle of the park and he suddenly becomes the obvious candidate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevie_J Posted May 30, 2010 Share Posted May 30, 2010 Green Hart James A Cole Ferdinand Terry Johnson King Carragher Baines Upson Gerrard Barry Lampard Lennon Walcott Milner Cole Carrick Wright-Phillips Rooney Crouch Defoe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
opinions4u Posted May 30, 2010 Author Share Posted May 30, 2010 Rooney Crouch Defoe Too many strikers for Dave Penney! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldhamSheridan Posted May 30, 2010 Share Posted May 30, 2010 (edited) Well, the seniors have been shown how to do it by the U17's today. The first 'mens' tournament we've won in nigh on 20 years. Connor Wickham does look a hell of a prospect. NB. I don't think I'm getting at all ahead of myself in saying that he'll be partnering Rooney up front for England in three or four years. Well, maybe a little bit. Edited May 30, 2010 by OldhamSheridan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
creepy Posted May 30, 2010 Share Posted May 30, 2010 james green hart johnson terry ferdinand a cole carragher baines king upson lennon lampard gerrard barry (if not parker or carrick, cant decide) johnson milner walcott j cole rooney crouch defoe heskey please play gerrard behind rooney, or in a free role Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilStarbucksSilkySkills Posted May 30, 2010 Share Posted May 30, 2010 Green Hart James A Cole Ferdinand Terry G Johnson Baines King Carragher Dawson Warnock Upson Gerrard Barry Lampard Lennon Walcott Milner Parker (my choice - Capello won't take him though) A Johnson J Cole Carrick Huddlestone Wright-Phillips Rooney Crouch Heskey Defoe Bent Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudemedic Posted May 30, 2010 Share Posted May 30, 2010 (edited) Hart Green James Cole A. Ferdinand Terry G. Johnson Carragher King Baines Gerrard Lampard Barry Walcott Lennon Cole J. Milner Huddlestone A. Johnson Rooney Crouch Defoe Bent Gone for 9 in midfield because with Carragher going you can leave behind a defender (plus Milner has played RB, Barry has played LB and Huddlestone has played CH) and it gives us more options (especially if Barry is not quite 100%- if he close enough he goes). Left out Heskey as he only got in the team because he plays so well with Rooney and if Crouch is missing I'd play similarly to how they started the second half. Bent goes because he does actually score goals which might be needed off the bench (if Defoe is already playing/unable to come on). I don't think Capello will be of the same mindset as me though and Barry won't go if he ain't 100%, Heskey will go (Bent staying) and A. Johnson will stay with Upson going. Edited May 30, 2010 by rudemedic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bring Back Ronnie Moore Posted May 31, 2010 Share Posted May 31, 2010 (edited) Can't see why so many people take Walcott over SWP. Walcott is something of a disappointment, very naive and lightweight, no conviction. Where as SWP always looks a threat and generally plays well for England every time he appears, even if he's a sub he usually has some influence on the game. Edited May 31, 2010 by Bring Back Ronnie Moore Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeslover Posted May 31, 2010 Share Posted May 31, 2010 Gerrard, J Cole, Carrick, Barry, Walcott, Lennon - going to need a big treatment room for the midfield! I think we have to take an extra body or two there even if it means a chance of one of the midfielders dropping into defence rather than the other way around. Gerrard, Barry and Milner could all play FB no problem if required, Carragher in midfield? Takes me back to the last game that squeaky and morally suspect weirdo was in charge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc0000 Posted May 31, 2010 Share Posted May 31, 2010 Can't see why so many people take Walcott over SWP. Walcott is something of a disappointment, very naive and lightweight, no conviction. Where as SWP always looks a threat and generally plays well for England every time he appears, even if he's a sub he usually has some influence on the game. He looks great but produces nothing really... Its one thing beating your man but if the cross is poor or the shot is tame its no use. I think with Walcott he does have it in him to produce that bit of special. I think he is a big game player, I can see him doing well in the World Cup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
creepy Posted May 31, 2010 Share Posted May 31, 2010 He looks great but produces nothing really... Its one thing beating your man but if the cross is poor or the shot is tame its no use. I think with Walcott he does have it in him to produce that bit of special. I think he is a big game player, I can see him doing well in the World Cup. agree he will go because on his day he could win us a match on his own he is capable of 'doing a croatia' again, or it could change to 'doing a spain' or whoever it may be in the world cup final 2010 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilStarbucksSilkySkills Posted May 31, 2010 Share Posted May 31, 2010 Can't see why so many people take Walcott over SWP. Walcott is something of a disappointment, very naive and lightweight, no conviction. Where as SWP always looks a threat and generally plays well for England every time he appears, even if he's a sub he usually has some influence on the game. You say that, but Walcott was the only player who impressed me in the first half against Japan. Very few people would argue that Lennon and Walcott don't belong ahead of SWP in the pecking order. And for me Walcott plays everytime. Not least because I think he will continue to improve as he gains experience, but at present he is fearless, he works hard and defenders hate playing against him. If we have a good run at the world cup, I expect him (and Rooney) to be at the heart of it. SWP is just unlucky that there ar two pacey Right Wingers who have the edge over him, and they are both fit. If one of them was left footed, they might all be going. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristolatic Posted May 31, 2010 Share Posted May 31, 2010 (edited) Walcott, Lennon or Wright-Phillips? Yep, it's a tough one. You'd like to take all three, but I'd actually leave Walcott behind. I feel Lennon offers a bit more variety than Walcott and, if needs be, SWP can play on the left, something the other two can't. I'd also make Hart first choice between the sticks after the season he's had. I'd also give Heskey his bus fare home. Along with Crouch, Defoe, Bent & Rooney, Joe Cole can slot in behind the front man if needed as a real attacking threat as well as play wide left / right, so you've plenty of options without taking the donkey. Really feel sorry for Parker though (no, not THAT Parker!), he's had a great season WHU. Now for a bit of controversy - am I the only one who doesn't think Ferdinand has earned his place? Injuries, 4 match ban for violent conduct, missed a drug test and goes on record as saying it's been his worst ever season AFTER being made England skipper. I just don't think he's solid enough. Is it me? Edited May 31, 2010 by Bristolatic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Latics_Fanatic Posted June 1, 2010 Share Posted June 1, 2010 Green Hart James A Cole Ferdinand Terry G Johnson Baines King Carragher Dawson Warnock Upson Gerrard Barry Lampard Lennon Walcott Milner Parker A Johnson J Cole Carrick Huddlestone Wright-Phillips Rooney Crouch Heskey Defoe Bent Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ackey Posted June 1, 2010 Share Posted June 1, 2010 People are calling our players spoilt!? From the BBC: It's all kicking off in the Mexican camp. They left out Barca youngster Jonathan from their 23-man squad, much to the disgust of big brother Giovani, who is on the plane. Here's the duo's dad, former Brazilian footballer Zizinho: "Gio is very hurt and he wants to be at home with us. We don't know if he will play in the World Cup or not." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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