sjk2008 Posted June 8, 2010 Share Posted June 8, 2010 I was talking to a Spanish guy about what they think of England and they genuinely think we are a quality side with the likes of Gerrard, Lampard, Rooney, Ferdinand, Ashley Cole, Joe Cole, Terry, Johnson etc. I think it is a case of the grass is always greener. I personally think that Spain are a better team than us but there is not much in it and I dont think the Spanish or Brazilians would ever see a match against England as a guaranteed victory and that is why we are in with a shout of winning the tournament. In the last World Cup we did not play well, yet we still took a very good Portugal side to penalties with 10 men when it really mattered! Not liking all the negativity in the room. England 3-1 USA Rooney 2 Dempsey Lampard (pen) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc0000 Posted June 8, 2010 Share Posted June 8, 2010 In the last World Cup we did not play well, yet we still took a very good Portugal side to penalties with 10 men when it really mattered! Just thinking about that.... The team that day... 01 P Robinson 02 G Neville 06 J Terry 05 R Ferdinand 03 A Cole 16 O Hargreaves 07 D Beckham (51 A Lennon ) 04 S Gerrard 08 F Lampard 11 J Cole (65 P Crouch ) 09 W Rooney Beckham, Neville, Ferdinand, Hargreaves out... Are we better or worse now ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Sinnott Posted June 8, 2010 Share Posted June 8, 2010 1-1. A John Terry header is cancelled out by a Landon Donovan penalty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafcprozac Posted June 8, 2010 Share Posted June 8, 2010 1-1. A John Terry header is cancelled out by a Landon Donovan penalty. Scouse Latic's 2nd Stag Do in Blackpool for this one, it'll be carnage if they don't win! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlossopLatic Posted June 8, 2010 Share Posted June 8, 2010 It should be a great atmosphere. I wouldn't worry too much about what goes on on the pitch! I agree with RoyleArmy ( ) ... an uninspiring 1-1 draw. Are we as good as Spain and Brasil? I'm afraid that's about the same as asking if Stoke are as good as Man Utd and Chelsea. There's not that much to choose between the rest though. Spain and Brasil are streets ahead, then Argentina, Italy, Germany, France, Netherlands, Portugal and England are all pretty close. With at least one wild card from Africa or South America joining the party. I agree with that Spain and Brazil are clearly the standout teams we are in the group behind them which I think is led by Holland. What I would like to see us do in the knockout stages is play Gerrad just behind Rooney with the 4 across the middle being Lennon Barry(If fit) Lampard and Joe Cole on the left when we are in trouble Gerrard can drop back into Midfield and when we push on support Rooney. Our problems in the last 2 tournaments have been our inability to keep the ball in midfield which has led to Portugal on 2 occasions controling the game and making us chase them and wearing us down physically which has led to us being dead on our feet by the time penalties come round and effectively lacking the strength mentally to win. After a slow start in 1990 we switched to 3-5-2 and started keeping the ball better which took us to the semi finals. If we match up with the bigger sides in midfield we will I think get beat (certainly against Spain) So I'm going with 1-1 Lampard to score for England before landon Donavon equalises in the 2nd half for The US. England will go onto Semi finals where we will fall short to the Brazilians Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slurms mckenzie Posted June 8, 2010 Share Posted June 8, 2010 England to win comfortably, 2 or 3 nil. However, it is difficult to predict the first scorer, as we have goals all over the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slurms mckenzie Posted June 8, 2010 Share Posted June 8, 2010 England to win comfortably, 2 or 3 nil. However, it is difficult to predict the first scorer, as we have goals all over the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
futchers briefs Posted June 8, 2010 Share Posted June 8, 2010 Ham shanks 2 England 1 Slow start and an Early blip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ak's11 Posted June 8, 2010 Share Posted June 8, 2010 England 3 - 0 USA Rooney 2, Gerrard 1st Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudemedic Posted June 8, 2010 Share Posted June 8, 2010 I think England will win 2-1 (although I wouldn't be too disappointed with a draw- the Yanks ain't as bas as they used to be). I'm going to go for a John Terry goal- our central defenders nearly always chip in with the odd goal here and there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidCollinge Posted June 8, 2010 Share Posted June 8, 2010 A lucky 1 - 0 to England with Crouch getting the goal... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
creepy Posted June 8, 2010 Share Posted June 8, 2010 England 3-0 (Heskey hatrick) nah, 1-1 with a late equaliser for us Crouch to score Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simpo Posted June 8, 2010 Share Posted June 8, 2010 Beyond Donovan, Dempsey and Howard, USA do not have very good players. They do, however, play much better than the sum of their parts. I generally don't make predictions, but I think if England get an early goal they'll be relatively comfortable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garcon Posted June 8, 2010 Share Posted June 8, 2010 England players, learn from Rio's mistake - protect yourself from Emile Heskey by disguising yourself as a goal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fleetwood Blue Posted June 8, 2010 Author Share Posted June 8, 2010 England players, learn from Rio's mistake - protect yourself from Emile Heskey by disguising yourself as a goal. Haha, It amazes me how long Emile has played in the top flight, he is a big centre forward who doesnt score goals but his strike partners love playing alongside him, Diego Forlan was given a couple of seasons at the scum and branded useless, who would you rather have in your team? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stitch_KTF Posted June 8, 2010 Share Posted June 8, 2010 Haha, It amazes me how long Emile has played in the top flight, he is a big centre forward who doesnt score goals but his strike partners love playing alongside him, Diego Forlan was given a couple of seasons at the scum and branded useless, who would you rather have in your team? In this team? Heskey - those who write him off so readily and absolutely only illustrate what they don't see in a game. I suppose I rated O'Grady and actually dubbed him the 'lower league Heskey' long before Keith Hill did. Why it's of such tremendous importance to have a free scoring centre-forward in a team which generally gets its goals from midfield, whoever plays upfront, I don't know. First and foremost it's the objective of a team to score goals. Lay of Emile people, he has his role and is there with good reason - he's amongst the best of a bad bunch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longtimeblue Posted June 8, 2010 Share Posted June 8, 2010 3-0. Not even a massive patriot but if there's one Country I'd like to us turn over it's the Yanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudemedic Posted June 8, 2010 Share Posted June 8, 2010 Beyond Donovan, Dempsey and Howard, USA do not have very good players. They do, however, play much better than the sum of their parts. I generally don't make predictions, but I think if England get an early goal they'll be relatively comfortable. They've a few more than that- the centre half from Milan, Oneywu (sp?) I think. There's a bloke who is at Bolton who could have a cracking tournamnet (holding midfielder- I think his name is Holden). Quite a few of the Yanks play in the top flights of the big European leagues, they won't get very far in this tournament but I would have them in front of a lot of teams that get to the second round (and maybe one or two that get further). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martjs Posted June 8, 2010 Share Posted June 8, 2010 What bothers me is the Yanks if not else are quick, strong and a threat from set-pieces - our weakness has been from set-pieces so that's a worry. Another problem we have is when teams run at as with pace and power, often we ball watch - that's not unique to the class of 2010 that goes back to as long as I can remember, Maradona in '86, Ekeke '90, Romania '98, Brazil '02 etc... The Yanks are no longer a push over, they beat Australia 3-1 the other night a team i'm picking to finish behind the Krauts who we could possibly be playing in round 2. If we go in with the right attitude we should be ok, BUT we are notoriously slow starters in tournaments! 86 L v Portugal 0-1 88 L v Ireland 0-1 90 D v Ireland 1-1 92 D v Denmark 0-0 96 D v Switzerland 1-1 98 W v Tunisia 2-0 00 L (after being 2-0 up!!!) 2-3 v Portugal 02 D 1-1 v Sweden 04 L (after leading with seconds remaining!) 1-2 v France 06 W 1-0 v Paraguay Agree with all of this... I keep telling everyone here the same - we are notoriously slow-starters... If we don't win I'll never hear the end of it here... Come on England! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBigDog Posted June 8, 2010 Share Posted June 8, 2010 3-0. Not even a massive patriot but if there's one Country I'd like to us turn over it's the Yanks 4-0 for me - easy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldhamSheridan Posted June 8, 2010 Share Posted June 8, 2010 Not liking all the negativity in the room. England 3-1 USA Rooney 2 Dempsey Lampard (pen) I with you, 3-1 win. Crouch with a couple. Defoe the other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyPimp Posted June 8, 2010 Share Posted June 8, 2010 1-1 with USA scoring first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevie_J Posted June 8, 2010 Share Posted June 8, 2010 2-0 England. Defoe and Gerrard to score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boundaryblue80 Posted June 9, 2010 Share Posted June 9, 2010 (edited) What bothers me is the Yanks if not else are quick, strong and a threat from set-pieces - our weakness has been from set-pieces so that's a worry. Another problem we have is when teams run at as with pace and power, often we ball watch - that's not unique to the class of 2010 that goes back to as long as I can remember, Maradona in '86, Ekeke '90, Romania '98, Brazil '02 etc... The Yanks are no longer a push over, they beat Australia 3-1 the other night a team i'm picking to finish behind the Krauts who we could possibly be playing in round 2. If we go in with the right attitude we should be ok, BUT we are notoriously slow starters in tournaments! 86 L v Portugal 0-1 88 L v Ireland 0-1 90 D v Ireland 1-1 92 D v Denmark 0-0 96 D v Switzerland 1-1 98 W v Tunisia 2-0 00 L (after being 2-0 up!!!) 2-3 v Portugal 02 D 1-1 v Sweden 04 L (after leading with seconds remaining!) 1-2 v France 06 W 1-0 v Paraguay Was at that Paraguay game and was interviewed as I was leaving the ground by the Chicago Tribune...the American Journo was all "you must be really pleased with that opening win etc". Think he was hoping for an upbeat, yeah, we stuck it to them response but just replied that "A win was a win and we needed to do better than that." Think the guy was really surprised at the lack of enthusiasm over the win. Anyway...the England - USA game...2-1 England win with Gerrard scoring. Edited June 9, 2010 by boundaryblue80 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fleetwood Blue Posted June 13, 2010 Author Share Posted June 13, 2010 4-0 for me - easy I wonder how many people will be that confident again after last nights showing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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