BP1960 Posted February 5, 2011 Share Posted February 5, 2011 (edited) I know all would prefer a stadium capacity of more than 10,000 within the Borough, but if thats out of the question whats your preference ? Edited February 5, 2011 by BP1960 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spadam Posted February 5, 2011 Share Posted February 5, 2011 I know all would prefer a stadium capacity of more than 10,000 within the Borough, but if thats out of the question whats your preference ? whats the point of moving to a ground that is less than our current capacity? I wouldn't mind moving to tameside as there are no professinal teams here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macca Posted February 5, 2011 Share Posted February 5, 2011 Where's the option for neither? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted February 5, 2011 Author Share Posted February 5, 2011 (edited) Where's the option for neither? I think all would choose that Macca - but I'll add it as long as posters can give their options. Edited February 5, 2011 by BP1960 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haribo_man Posted February 5, 2011 Share Posted February 5, 2011 I think all would choose that Macca - but I'll add it as long as posters can give their options. would the less than 10k have scope for expansion? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted February 5, 2011 Author Share Posted February 5, 2011 (edited) would the less than 10k have scope for expansion? Good point Haribo, but initially I was thinking of 10,000 as a marker. I will add your suggestion to the option. Edited February 5, 2011 by BP1960 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobOAFC Posted February 5, 2011 Share Posted February 5, 2011 11,000 - 12,000 in the borough, with room for expansion e.g. in corners, able to add another tier if needed.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryBosch Posted February 5, 2011 Share Posted February 5, 2011 does size really matter anymore??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted February 5, 2011 Author Share Posted February 5, 2011 (edited) does size really matter anymore??? That question will always be debated I think. Edited February 5, 2011 by BP1960 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted February 5, 2011 Author Share Posted February 5, 2011 11,000 - 12,000 in the borough, with room for expansion e.g. in corners, able to add another tier if needed.. That's the ideal Rob, but I have a feeling it won't happen in the Borough due to shortage of suitable land, would you reduce you aspirations if it wasn't possible ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edhunteruk Posted February 5, 2011 Share Posted February 5, 2011 That question will always be debated I think. size will only matter dependant on which league we are in....if bp still has safety certs for the next 3 seasons then who knows where we will be.... if were in league 1 or below then 8-10k will suffice.... if were in the championship then depending on who you play and how we play i would say 10-14k at the end of the day any stadium proposed needs to be fully extendable at any given time.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobOAFC Posted February 5, 2011 Share Posted February 5, 2011 That's the ideal Rob, but I have a feeling it won't happen in the Borough due to shortage of suitable land, would you reduce you aspirations if it wasn't possible ? Their is suitable land for that. However the owners want 30 acres for other things like 3g football pitches etc. All we need to do is cut down on the plans that was intended for failsworth, and build upwards rather than outwards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted February 5, 2011 Author Share Posted February 5, 2011 Their is suitable land for that. However the owners want 30 acres for other things like 3g football pitches etc. All we need to do is cut down on the plans that was intended for failsworth, and build upwards rather than outwards. I agree, but don't they say revenue wouldn't be enough if it was cut down ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edhunteruk Posted February 5, 2011 Share Posted February 5, 2011 I agree, but don't they say revenue wouldn't be enough if it was cut down ? you need to generate income streams..that will give you money coming in all year round....that is why they want 30 acres...doesnt really matter what extra they want as long as it brings in the income.....you can stick a stadium anywhere.but if its just a ground its back to what we have now.... the various plans for bp centre round conferencing hospitality and cinemas bowling allyes a hotel etc etc.. failsworth centred around football and 3g pitches,plus maybe eateries and cinema..... this is vital or we just carry on as we are,only getting money from match days... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted February 5, 2011 Author Share Posted February 5, 2011 you need to generate income streams..that will give you money coming in all year round....that is why they want 30 acres...doesnt really matter what extra they want as long as it brings in the income.....you can stick a stadium anywhere.but if its just a ground its back to what we have now.... the various plans for bp centre round conferencing hospitality and cinemas bowling allyes a hotel etc etc.. failsworth centred around football and 3g pitches,plus maybe eateries and cinema..... this is vital or we just carry on as we are,only getting money from match days... There isn't 30 acres though, so what next ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edhunteruk Posted February 5, 2011 Share Posted February 5, 2011 There isn't 30 acres though, so what next ? how do you know there isnt???? just because someone says there isnt????? have you looked round the borough,to see whats available,whats derelict etc etc..... plus engineering these days mean you can dig down deeper and build higher....so in essence you wouldnt need 30 acres,just imaginative architecs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted February 5, 2011 Author Share Posted February 5, 2011 how do you know there isnt???? just because someone says there isnt????? have you looked round the borough,to see whats available,whats derelict etc etc..... plus engineering these days mean you can dig down deeper and build higher....so in essence you wouldnt need 30 acres,just imaginative architecs It has been publicised many times from Council and OA sources that there isn't another 30 acres available in the borough. When you have looked around tell me where the 30 acres is where easy planning permission can be obtained. I agree, I dont think 30 acres is required, but the fact is the powers that be do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
millsy82 Posted February 5, 2011 Share Posted February 5, 2011 Either For me it is whatever ensures the survival of the club I love. Simple. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beardy Posted February 5, 2011 Share Posted February 5, 2011 I heard that the land off bullcote lane couldnt be used as the area has loads of mine shafts! simples, get a massive cement mixer and just fill one end and the cement will cover everything! ive seen it done in movies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc0000 Posted February 5, 2011 Share Posted February 5, 2011 The size of the stadium is less important than the room for expansion I would say... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave_ragg1984 Posted February 5, 2011 Share Posted February 5, 2011 In Oldham. Above 10,000. What a crap poll. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted February 6, 2011 Author Share Posted February 6, 2011 In Oldham. Above 10,000. What a crap poll. The opening post said; I know all would prefer a stadium capacity of more than 10,000 within the Borough, but if thats out of the question whats your preference ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyPimp Posted February 6, 2011 Share Posted February 6, 2011 (edited) Wherever we end up, is 30 acres really necessary? Remember the original plans for the redevelopment of BP? There were far too many flats and houses, aimed at squeezing every last penny out of the site. Maybe if the plans had been less intensive they may have been passed. Edited February 6, 2011 by JohnnyPimp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted February 6, 2011 Author Share Posted February 6, 2011 Wherever we end up, is 30 acres really necessary? Remember the original plans for the redevelopment of BP? There were far too many flats and houses, aimed at squeezing every last penny out of the site. Maybe if the plans had been less intensive they may have been passed. I agree, to remain in Oldham as the majority want, a redevelopment half the size should still generate enough income. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singe Posted February 7, 2011 Share Posted February 7, 2011 Wherever we end up, is 30 acres really necessary? Remember the original plans for the redevelopment of BP? There were far too many flats and houses, aimed at squeezing every last penny out of the site. Maybe if the plans had been less intensive they may have been passed. Those plans did get passed, in fact plannig permission still exists but the bottom fell out of the housing market, so finance was not avaialble, and it became economically unviable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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