edhunteruk Posted February 8, 2011 Share Posted February 8, 2011 (edited) If I'd have been paying attention; then probably yeah.... sorry mate but the site your on about the old tip is now the new tip and in the process of being built is a state of the art recycling centre.... however the other side of the street,which backs onto middleton road is full of the old platts buildings and some other mish mash of smaller units and is quite a large site...wether that is worth investigating i dont know...but it is deemed as industrial area so not sure how you would go about that... just had a thought (cue pisstakes) the land opposite to lancaster club on the other side of broadway is council owned i think,no allotments on it and not trustee land...from what i remember of it going back,it used to be just derelict and full of sand hills and that,where we used to go bmxing and others used scrambler bikes...runs right up the canal and train track other side...now that might be worth a shout....think you can get to it the other side of morrisons....or the other one is where ferrantis used to be on wickentree lane Edited February 8, 2011 by edhunteruk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haribo_man Posted February 8, 2011 Share Posted February 8, 2011 (edited) sorry mate but the site your on about the old tip is now the new tip and in the process of being built is a state of the art recycling centre.... however the other side of the street,which backs onto middleton road is full of the old platts buildings and some other mish mash of smaller units and is quite a large site...wether that is worth investigating i dont know...but it is deemed as industrial area so not sure how you would go about that... just had a thought (cue pisstakes) the land opposite to lancaster club on the other side of broadway is council owned i think,no allotments on it and not trustee land...from what i remember of it going back,it used to be just derelict and full of sand hills and that,where we used to go bmxing and others used scrambler bikes...runs right up the canal and train track other side...now that might be worth a shout....think you can get to it the other side of morrisons....or the other one is where ferrantis used to be on wickentree lane if you go from opposite the Lancaster club you hit what we called 'the white stuff' that goes across to Hale Lane on the New Moston border then across from there again you have land which takes you to the canal and then up to Morrisons. Not sure how feasable the land on the opposite side of broadway is though and I would imagine that there would be enough room however it may run into Manchester territory? Edited February 8, 2011 by Haribo_man Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fanakapan Posted February 8, 2011 Share Posted February 8, 2011 So did my Dad, served as an apprentice there, then carried on and worked for them until a couple of months before it finally went belly up. He told me once that the site was so big in its pomp that it had it’s own railway line to carry machinery / parts & people around the site..... I know there are business units on parts of the site now, but surely there is some ‘wiggle room’ on an area so large for re-locating etc..... I served my apprenticeship there too......also left before it went belly up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
real Posted February 8, 2011 Share Posted February 8, 2011 Does no-one else use Google Earth? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted February 8, 2011 Share Posted February 8, 2011 10 acres..unoccupied for 10 years, £250.000, can it be considered as a site for a new stadium ? http://www.skiptonproperty.co.uk/property_...ils.asp?id=5773 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edhunteruk Posted February 8, 2011 Share Posted February 8, 2011 10 acres..unoccupied for 10 years, £250.000, can it be considered as a site for a new stadium ? http://www.skiptonproperty.co.uk/property_...ils.asp?id=5773 greenbelt...not a hope in hell.......and at 10 acres far too small for even just a stadium i think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc0000 Posted February 8, 2011 Share Posted February 8, 2011 10 acres..unoccupied for 10 years, £250.000, can it be considered as a site for a new stadium ? http://www.skiptonproperty.co.uk/property_...ils.asp?id=5773 Going off google maps it looks like its surrounded by other farms etc... Access looks problematic... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted February 8, 2011 Share Posted February 8, 2011 (edited) greenbelt...not a hope in hell.......and at 10 acres far too small for even just a stadium i think. It's doing nothing and likely never will, and I thought green belt land could be used in special circumstances ? 10 acres is ok for a stadium, but not on the grand scale Latics envisaged at Failsworth. As for access I'm not sure about that, but at £250,000 it's maybe worth investigating. Edited February 8, 2011 by BP1960 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lookers_Carl Posted February 8, 2011 Share Posted February 8, 2011 no Simon corney stated at the 2nd consultation at Radcliffe you will not get planning permission on a site of 10 acres or less for a stadium Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted February 8, 2011 Share Posted February 8, 2011 (edited) no Simon corney stated at the 2nd consultation at Radcliffe you will not get planning permission on a site of 10 acres or less for a stadium How many acres is Chesterfields ?h I have been to Yeovil's new ground and theres nothing except a stadium there, that has got to be less than 10 acres. Many current stadiums cover far less than 10 acres, just look at Rochdale's, and they seem to manage. Edited February 8, 2011 by BP1960 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edhunteruk Posted February 8, 2011 Share Posted February 8, 2011 It's doing nothing and likely never will, and I thought green belt land could be used in special circumstances ? 10 acres is ok for a stadium, but not on the grand scale Latics envisaged at Failsworth. As for access I'm not sure about that, but at £250,000 it's maybe worth investigating. plus the area you have just posted on the map thing is chaddy heights...so unfortunately not a chance im affraid.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singe Posted February 8, 2011 Share Posted February 8, 2011 10 acres..unoccupied for 10 years, £250.000, can it be considered as a site for a new stadium ? http://www.skiptonproperty.co.uk/property_...ils.asp?id=5773 A small L shaped football ground is unusual, not sure everyone will get a good view... Looks prone to flooding, drainage might be an issue.... To get planning permission for reseidential land not adjacent to current residential dvelopemtn means altering the local plan. Approx 10 years. There might be quite a lot of residential objection there too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted February 8, 2011 Share Posted February 8, 2011 (edited) A small L shaped football ground is unusual, not sure everyone will get a good view... Looks prone to flooding, drainage might be an issue.... To get planning permission for reseidential land not adjacent to current residential dvelopemtn means altering the local plan. Approx 10 years. There might be quite a lot of residential objection there too Yet another unused derelict area in Oldham then, there's a lot of waste in the town and no one with the ambition to use the space. Edited February 8, 2011 by BP1960 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edhunteruk Posted February 8, 2011 Share Posted February 8, 2011 Yet another unused derelict area in Oldham then, there's a lot of waste in the town and no one with the ambition to use the space. it might be unused but it isnt a derelict space....its an old farm house in the middle of a very affluent area of chadderton....there isnt a snowballs chancve in hell of turning it into a football ground,especially as it is green belt land.... your looking in the wrong place..try industrial land brownfield sites etc....then you may stand a slight chance of doing something... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted February 8, 2011 Share Posted February 8, 2011 plus the area you have just posted on the map thing is chaddy heights...so unfortunately not a chance im affraid.... Looks a lot of land in that area though, is it all used? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edhunteruk Posted February 8, 2011 Share Posted February 8, 2011 Looks a lot of land in that area though, is it all used? chadderton heights is farm land...green belt area between chadderton and middleton...there is a unadopted road you can go down from stakehill and it takes you all the way to just outside royton,near the sewerage works.. you just wouldnt get permission in that area.... an area of chadderton im not sure about is off broadway,whitegate road i think...old mills there,and again backs on eventually to the chadderton sewerage works...that might be empty or not much there..you would have more chance there or similar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted February 8, 2011 Share Posted February 8, 2011 chadderton heights is farm land...green belt area between chadderton and middleton...there is a unadopted road you can go down from stakehill and it takes you all the way to just outside royton,near the sewerage works.. you just wouldnt get permission in that area.... an area of chadderton im not sure about is off broadway,whitegate road i think...old mills there,and again backs on eventually to the chadderton sewerage works...that might be empty or not much there..you would have more chance there or similar I will leave it to you to negotiate on Latics behalf Ed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singe Posted February 8, 2011 Share Posted February 8, 2011 (edited) How many acres is Chesterfields ?h I have been to Yeovil's new ground and theres nothing except a stadium there, that has got to be less than 10 acres. Many current stadiums cover far less than 10 acres, just look at Rochdale's, and they seem to manage. 40 acres according to chesterfield fishul. 8 acres for the stadium, 40 for academy, pitches etc http://www.chesterfield-fc.co.uk/page/NewS...~184993,00.html I keep seeing this theme on your posts BP1960, the actual pitch might be small, but the rest car parking etc needs to much bigger, and we need some things on site. I know that the idea of developing other sites has bene floated but there seems to be a need for some of the items a footbal stadium needs Interesting that is 2004, it still took them almost 6 years. Edited February 8, 2011 by singe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
real Posted February 8, 2011 Share Posted February 8, 2011 To the south / west of heights farm, just across the railway line and north of oldham road is a decent sized site adjacent to / behind british vita. Transport links are not brilliant for road (mills hill metro would be next door though) - Middleton rd towards oldham, via greengate to chaddy, chaddy hall rd to a627m and through miggy to M60. Oh, it's just over the border too. Ed, is the site you mean the one behind costco / passport printers, running down alongside the canal behind most of greengate industrial estate? Looks a bit "long and thin, but might be big enough? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edhunteruk Posted February 8, 2011 Share Posted February 8, 2011 To the south / west of heights farm, just across the railway line and north of oldham road is a decent sized site adjacent to / behind british vita. Transport links are not brilliant for road (mills hill metro would be next door though) - Middleton rd towards oldham, via greengate to chaddy, chaddy hall rd to a627m and through miggy to M60. Oh, it's just over the border too. Ed, is the site you mean the one behind costco / passport printers, running down alongside the canal behind most of greengate industrial estate? Looks a bit "long and thin, but might be big enough? yeah the site im on about is gorse street chadderton....behind light craft i think...there are a few mills down there,i know one has deffo shut down,not sure on the other one..but it runds downt to sewerage works,and there seems to be scrub land to the side as well...bang on m60 network the one you mean in middy is behind vita off oldham road....between oldham road and the railway line...think there are,or used to be football pitches there for sunday league.not too sure if still in use....also with that one the old imperial tobacco mill is there as well,derelict too.....so could be worth a look at....far away enough from rochdale to clash as well...might have problems with the nimbys though on boarshaw which backs onto it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyP Posted February 8, 2011 Share Posted February 8, 2011 Has the area at Beal Valley been looked into? Just below Sholver and up from Shaw Rd, the council had designs to build a municiple golf course on that land. I think the last plans were to build just 9 holes. Can the 9 hole course not be built along with a new stadium and all the leisure faciltys? There must be at least 60 acres of land on that site. If someone has mentioned it before sorry for repeating. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oafc88 Posted February 8, 2011 Share Posted February 8, 2011 (edited) Has the area at Beal Valley been looked into? Just below Sholver and up from Shaw Rd, the council had designs to build a municiple golf course on that land. I think the last plans were to build just 9 holes. Can the 9 hole course not be built along with a new stadium and all the leisure faciltys? There must be at least 60 acres of land on that site. If someone has mentioned it before sorry for repeating. Im not sure but i think it was stated that Beal Valley couldn't be used because of either poor access with transport links and what have you or it has quite a lot of potential to flood round there every year and we'd end up like Carlisle or Sheff Weds gorunds that become underwater when it rains heavy. It could of been both too tbh. Someone else can probably verify this. I think its the same place where talking about Edited February 8, 2011 by Oafc88 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave_ragg1984 Posted February 8, 2011 Share Posted February 8, 2011 CONTROVERSIAL BUT a joint venture with Rochdale at Kingsway Bus Park off Sir issac Newton Way next to J21 less than 2k from High Crompton Park. as much land as needed. Suggestion came from a Dale fan, joint venture?????? But Rochdale do not need a new ground. Spotland is perfectly fine as it is, and perfect for that club. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted February 8, 2011 Share Posted February 8, 2011 But Rochdale do not need a new ground. Spotland is perfectly fine as it is, and perfect for that club. It shows that clubs can manage on less than 10 acres though Dave. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueJazzer Posted February 8, 2011 Share Posted February 8, 2011 It shows that clubs can manage on less than 10 acres though Dave. When Spotland was built there was no such thing as planning regulations. If they wanted to do it today they'd have no chance. According to SC.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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