terry tibbs Posted April 18, 2011 Share Posted April 18, 2011 Eh? it happened at the training ground at Bristol. They didn't know he was going to spit his dummy out before they set off. It seems a bit odd that a player that has been dropped for about half of the season has suddenly had a strop at being dropped when its nearly the end of the season and the end of his contract. It doesn't ring true to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaticsLee Posted April 18, 2011 Share Posted April 18, 2011 It seems a bit odd that a player that has been dropped for about half of the season has suddenly had a strop at being dropped when its nearly the end of the season and the end of his contract. It doesn't ring true to me. Maybe he thought his performance against charlton was good enough to warrant him a start against yeovil. obviously dickov had other ideas and jones didn't like OT and reacted the way he did Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaticMark Posted April 18, 2011 Share Posted April 18, 2011 So they drove him all the way to Yeovil, just to tell him his behaviour is unacceptable to go home. Like putting the story on the official website, don't think that really helps anyone. Wouldn't it have been better to tell him to stay at home before the team set off to Yeovil and have a meeting about it on Monday morning? I presume Jones would have been on the bench. If I ignored a clear instruction from my boss I'd get in trouble, why should footballers be any different? I'd expect Jones to be fined 2 weeks wages, given a written warning - and it's bye bye at the end of the season. Maybe he should have a rant on facebook! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terry tibbs Posted April 18, 2011 Share Posted April 18, 2011 Was it October that he was done for drink driving? You can understand management being a bit dischuffed with a senior pro setting that example to a young squad. I think Jones was given a fair crack, although I'd agree he's been surprisingly overlooked on occasions when a recall looked possible. But then he has had three fairly public issues (one at half time at BP when he was "chucked out", MK Dons and now this). Although not a regular starter Kelly was a well used sub. I don't recall him ever changing a game. As for Feeney, lack of fitness, international call ups and a drink driving conviction don't make you popular. I think we all see Dickov isn't infallible. Many other managers would have been sacked during the recent bad run. But he's shown real promise earlier in the season and perhaps this poor form will be the making of him. If he'd been an experienced manager he'd have rightly received more stick. Let's see how / if he learns from his mistakes next season. The incidents you mention about Jones when you think about all of them, he was defending himself. He had stewards kicking players out of the ground on a match day, a player having a go at him which has since been explained and now this. All resulting in Jones defending himself which i'm sure any one on this board would do in any workplace. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terry tibbs Posted April 18, 2011 Share Posted April 18, 2011 I presume Jones would have been on the bench. If I ignored a clear instruction from my boss I'd get in trouble, why should footballers be any different? I'd expect Jones to be fined 2 weeks wages, given a written warning - and it's bye bye at the end of the season. Maybe he should have a rant on facebook! So you would accept a fine of 2 weeks wages if you had a disagreement with your boss at work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwerty Posted April 18, 2011 Share Posted April 18, 2011 So you would accept a fine of 2 weeks wages if you had a disagreement with your boss at work. no but if you show him disrespect infront of the hole team in training and expect to get away with it you must be mad if the manager would have shown weakness we would have another pissup at the dogs team like shez and we all know how that went. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaticMark Posted April 18, 2011 Share Posted April 18, 2011 So you would accept a fine of 2 weeks wages if you had a disagreement with your boss at work. It’s part of the disciplinary procedures that exist in football, with 2 weeks fine being the maximum that is allowed by the PFA – or something like that! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terry tibbs Posted April 18, 2011 Share Posted April 18, 2011 no but if you show him disrespect infront of the hole team in training and expect to get away with it you must be mad if the manager would have shown weakness we would have another pissup at the dogs team like shez and we all know how that went. Do you seriously think that he is the only player in the squad that has had a go at the coaching staff this season - i think not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted April 18, 2011 Share Posted April 18, 2011 I presume Jones would have been on the bench. If I ignored a clear instruction from my boss I'd get in trouble, why should footballers be any different? I'd expect Jones to be fined 2 weeks wages, given a written warning - and it's bye bye at the end of the season. Maybe he should have a rant on facebook! So you would accept a fine of 2 weeks wages if you had a disagreement with your boss at work. I see we're trying to fit our work experiences into the footballing model; I wouldn't expect a 2wks pay fine at work, however that isn't an industry standard in my sector - by the same token I don't get all the perks a pro-footballer does, nor do I get heckled by some fat :censored: who thinks he can do my job better that me on a Saturday afternoon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted April 18, 2011 Share Posted April 18, 2011 Bloody hell that's a landmark! Yeah, well - don't expect us to be holding hands taking windy walks. So think on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaticsLee Posted April 18, 2011 Share Posted April 18, 2011 Yeah, well - don't expect us to be holding hands taking windy walks. So think on. don't worry won't last long. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaticMark Posted April 18, 2011 Share Posted April 18, 2011 I see we're trying to fit our work experiences into the footballing model; I wouldn't expect a 2wks pay fine at work, however that isn't an industry standard in my sector - by the same token I don't get all the perks a pro-footballer does, nor do I get heckled by some fat :censored: who thinks he can do my job better that me on a Saturday afternoon. For some reason I've just thought of a colleague at work! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeslover Posted April 18, 2011 Share Posted April 18, 2011 The incidents you mention about Jones when you think about all of them, he was defending himself. He had stewards kicking players out of the ground on a match day, a player having a go at him which has since been explained and now this. All resulting in Jones defending himself which i'm sure any one on this board would do in any workplace. But what about that time when he stole toys from orphaned children? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwerty Posted April 18, 2011 Share Posted April 18, 2011 Do you seriously think that he is the only player in the squad that has had a go at the coaching staff this season - i think not. having ago then storming out of the training ground like a pleb wouldnt help anyones career Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diego_Sideburns Posted April 18, 2011 Author Share Posted April 18, 2011 Although not a regular starter Kelly was a well used sub. I don't recall him ever changing a game. He came on for Jones after 61 minutes against Plymouth at BP. He scored the fourth goal in a 4-2 win. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
opinions4u Posted April 18, 2011 Share Posted April 18, 2011 Now if he'd scored the third ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diego_Sideburns Posted April 18, 2011 Author Share Posted April 18, 2011 Now if he'd scored the third ... If he'd come on earlier, who knows? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_mighty_bosh Posted April 18, 2011 Share Posted April 18, 2011 having ago then storming out of the training ground like a pleb wouldnt help anyones career Apologies if I missed something from earlier in this thread, but where does it say that Jones had a go at anyone? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeslover Posted April 18, 2011 Share Posted April 18, 2011 Apologies if I missed something from earlier in this thread, but where does it say that Jones had a go at anyone? Post 69, he pissed through the letterbox of Terry Tibbs' geriatric neighbour, then lit a newspaper wrapped around a turd and left it on her doorstep. The bastard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dkenyonqfc2 Posted April 18, 2011 Share Posted April 18, 2011 having ago then storming out of the training ground like a pleb wouldnt help anyones career another player did do that but nothing was done about it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singe Posted April 19, 2011 Share Posted April 19, 2011 another player did do that but nothing was done about it According to what your were told. You're going to have to be a bit careful what you quote. You can tell I have a few similar snakes in the grass at work. You won;t be the only one he moaned to either,so that it appears that the whole world is against them, that spend their time bitching to all and sundry, moaning about their problems to everyone but the person that is going to sort them out, undermining morale, deciding what is the right thing and them complaining when it is not done the way they percieve it, can't you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diego_Sideburns Posted April 19, 2011 Author Share Posted April 19, 2011 According to what your were told..... snakes in the grass at work....it appears that the whole world is against them, they spend their time bitching to all and sundry, moaning about their problems to everyone but the person that is going to sort them out, undermining morale, deciding what is the right thing and then complaining when it is not done the way they perceive it... A fair summary of the apparent philosophy of many Latics fans. simon.corney@oldhamathletic.co.uk alan.hardy@oldhamathletic.co.uk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnny punkster Posted April 19, 2011 Share Posted April 19, 2011 Post 69, he pissed through the letterbox of Terry Tibbs' geriatric neighbour, then lit a newspaper wrapped around a turd and left it on her doorstep. The bastard. Thanks Andy..cheered me up no end did that! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaticsLee Posted April 19, 2011 Share Posted April 19, 2011 All this could of been avoided if he didn't storm off the pitch and just waited to have a quite word with dickov in private. So it's his own fault for acting like a child. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zorrro Posted April 19, 2011 Share Posted April 19, 2011 A fair summary of the apparent philosophy of many Latics fans. simon.corney@oldhamathletic.co.uk alan.hardy@oldhamathletic.co.uk I hope you're not suggesting people email SC or AH regarding an internal disciplinary matter. The club have already made a huge faux pas putting the details on the official site. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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