HarryBosch Posted June 16, 2011 Share Posted June 16, 2011 GK Ermm.... RB Lee LB Black CB Hazell CB Tarkowski RM Winchester/Morais LM Taylor CM Furman CM Stephens/Morais ST Reid ST Feeney/Brooke/Bembo Subs - McGrath, Millar, MVoto to maybe replace Hazell Stephens hasn't gone yet but probably will I can't see Black not signing Not a bad side that, especially if MVOto signs Add a keeper, a striker and keep or replace Stephens and we could do something if they stay fit. As bad as the end of last season was I think it's important to keep most of the same players together as they'll get better the longer they play together, the better they get to know each other & provided the youngsters kick on & establish themselves. I'd prefer just 2 or 3 quality signings for once over the usual complete overhaul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaskedOwl Posted June 16, 2011 Share Posted June 16, 2011 you left out Smith who i think will get the nod ahead some of our other strikers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlayItLivo Posted June 16, 2011 Share Posted June 16, 2011 GK Ermm.... RB Lee LB Black CB Hazell CB Tarkowski RM Winchester/Morais LM Taylor CM Furman CM Stephens/Morais ST Reid ST Feeney/Brooke/Bembo Subs - McGrath, Millar, MVoto to maybe replace Hazell Stephens hasn't gone yet but probably will I can't see Black not signing Not a bad side that, especially if MVOto signs Add a keeper, a striker and keep or replace Stephens and we could do something if they stay fit. As bad as the end of last season was I think it's important to keep most of the same players together as they'll get better the longer they play together, the better they get to know each other & provided the youngsters kick on & establish themselves. I'd prefer just 2 or 3 quality signings for once over the usual complete overhaul That's a relegation team at this point. It's thin as hell, relying on young developing players (Tarky, Winchester, Black, Brooke, Bembo, Smith) and where are the goals coming from. Of course, there's still a ship load of players to come in. But be under no illusions, hypothetically if that was the team we went into the season with, we'd need a miracle to stay up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldhamSheridan Posted June 16, 2011 Share Posted June 16, 2011 plus, it still wouldn't surprise me if there were accepted bids for one/all of Lee, Taylor and Furman. NB. Stephens I'm counting as gone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafcprozac Posted June 16, 2011 Share Posted June 16, 2011 That's a relegation team at this point. It's thin as hell, relying on young developing players (Tarky, Winchester, Black, Brooke, Bembo, Smith) and where are the goals coming from. Of course, there's still a ship load of players to come in. But be under no illusions, hypothetically if that was the team we went into the season with, we'd need a miracle to stay up. We need quality and a fair bit of it to have half a chance. We have some talent at the club but are likely to lose some of it and we have too many players whose heads drop at the slightest hint of adversity. When we were struggling under Stitch we had warriors like Garnett and Dux, under Penney we had Greegs and people like :censored:, we haven't got that now and i'm exteremely worried. Dickov talks a good game, its time to see what he's made of....survival is the brief, we need players who will step up to the plate.... Experienced keeper Bruiser of a CB (M'Voto) Experienced Centre-mid in the mould of Mini-Shez Battering ram striker and a nippy little sod (still two short in my opinion, as can't see Brooke and Bembo being thriwn into a team battling relegation and I think Feeney will be gone) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueJazzer Posted June 16, 2011 Share Posted June 16, 2011 ........ and I think Feeney will be gone) Sorry but I reckon you've lost the plot if you think someone will be stupid enough to take Feeney off us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwerty Posted June 16, 2011 Share Posted June 16, 2011 apparently stephens is staying so......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Latics_Fanatic Posted June 16, 2011 Share Posted June 16, 2011 Rumour has it we're in for Danny Kedwell from AFC Wimbledon, he handed in a transfer request yesterday... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafcprozac Posted June 16, 2011 Share Posted June 16, 2011 Rumour has it we're in for Danny Kedwell from AFC Wimbledon, he handed in a transfer request yesterday... He'll command a fee, can't see it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heatonmoorlatic Posted June 16, 2011 Share Posted June 16, 2011 Do we have it on good authority Stephens is staying. Sounds like he didn't really rip up any trees at Southampton. Think it'll be tough but the squad is a year older (and hopefully wiser) and with one or two shrewd signings we'll be ok. We need the high energy approach we had at the start of last season. towards the end we were letting teams play and had a more orthodox 4-4-2 formation when I though 4-5-1 looked better for us as we had wingers coming out of our ears. Smith up front might be a good shout if we can get some service into him. I'll read this again in 4 months and laugh at how naive I've been! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Microcuts Posted June 16, 2011 Share Posted June 16, 2011 I think what the club can't afford to do is stubbornly attempt to hold onto some of these names (Stephens, Lee etc) only to then eventually cave in mid-August, or on deadline day by which time the summer turnaround is complete and there wont be the same quality still available. If these players are going to be leaving, let's get it out of the way and give the funds to the manager now. Particularly with Stephens, who presumably has an agreed price with Southampton, and we are clear in our valuation of him should they not chose to take up this option and other clubs come sniffing. I understand the club may need to hold out for the highest possible fee, but we risk then either rushing through transfers with out thorough deliberation, or postponing until January and struggling along with what we have and yet more loanees. Perhaps this is what Dickov is holding out for? Perhaps we were in with a chance of signing McDonald, but an outgoing transfer broke down? But until he knows how much he has (or doesn't have) to work with, it must be very difficult to pinpoint his top targets? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobOAFC Posted June 16, 2011 Share Posted June 16, 2011 I think what the club can't afford to do is stubbornly attempt to hold onto some of these names (Stephens, Lee etc) only to then eventually cave in mid-August, or on deadline day by which time the summer turnaround is complete and there wont be the same quality still available. If these players are going to be leaving, let's get it out of the way and give the funds to the manager now. Particularly with Stephens, who presumably has an agreed price with Southampton, and we are clear in our valuation of him should they not chose to take up this option and other clubs come sniffing. I understand the club may need to hold out for the highest possible fee, but we risk then either rushing through transfers with out thorough deliberation, or postponing until January and struggling along with what we have and yet more loanees. Perhaps this is what Dickov is holding out for? Perhaps we were in with a chance of signing McDonald, but an outgoing transfer broke down? But until he knows how much he has (or doesn't have) to work with, it must be very difficult to pinpoint his top targets? If his loan has officially expired, then we can demand more money from southampton for him.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crusoe Posted June 16, 2011 Share Posted June 16, 2011 We can demand what we like, they don't have to pay it if they don't want him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Microcuts Posted June 16, 2011 Share Posted June 16, 2011 Fair enough if the loan has expired. But either way the club must have some number in mind as a valuation. If he didn't set the world alight at Southampton I can't imagine it would increase especially. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lookers_Carl Posted June 16, 2011 Share Posted June 16, 2011 I think what the club can't afford to do is stubbornly attempt to hold onto some of these names (Stephens, Lee etc) only to then eventually cave in mid-August, or on deadline day by which time the summer turnaround is complete and there wont be the same quality still available. If these players are going to be leaving, let's get it out of the way and give the funds to the manager now. Particularly with Stephens, who presumably has an agreed price with Southampton, and we are clear in our valuation of him should they not chose to take up this option and other clubs come sniffing. I understand the club may need to hold out for the highest possible fee, but we risk then either rushing through transfers with out thorough deliberation, or postponing until January and struggling along with what we have and yet more loanees. Perhaps this is what Dickov is holding out for? Perhaps we were in with a chance of signing McDonald, but an outgoing transfer broke down? But until he knows how much he has (or doesn't have) to work with, it must be very difficult to pinpoint his top targets? Agree completely with that, if they want to go then the sooner the better. Gives us more time to replace them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Latics_Fanatic Posted June 16, 2011 Share Posted June 16, 2011 He'll command a fee, can't see it... Warren Feeney going the other way may just sweeten the deal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc1955 Posted June 16, 2011 Share Posted June 16, 2011 I think what the club can't afford to do is stubbornly attempt to hold onto some of these names (Stephens, Lee etc) only to then eventually cave in mid-August, or on deadline day by which time the summer turnaround is complete and there wont be the same quality still available. If these players are going to be leaving, let's get it out of the way and give the funds to the manager now. Particularly with Stephens, who presumably has an agreed price with Southampton, and we are clear in our valuation of him should they not chose to take up this option and other clubs come sniffing. I understand the club may need to hold out for the highest possible fee, but we risk then either rushing through transfers with out thorough deliberation, or postponing until January and struggling along with what we have and yet more loanees. Perhaps this is what Dickov is holding out for? Perhaps we were in with a chance of signing McDonald, but an outgoing transfer broke down? But until he knows how much he has (or doesn't have) to work with, it must be very difficult to pinpoint his top targets? From the O.S......The Latics manager says there is no need to worry about the lack of transfer activity. Dickov explained that he is speaking to players who are generally doing the rounds weighing up their options before making decisions. He continued: "I would say to fans there is no need to panic as we have everything in place for the new season. "We are prepared to wait for the right players. If they turn us down because of money then obviously they are not the right players." He wants players who want to play for the club and not the money grabbers.......I think he's one of the shrewdest managers we've had in a long time and if we stick with him I'm confident we'll be competitive. :wink: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slystallone Posted June 17, 2011 Share Posted June 17, 2011 GK Ermm.... RB Lee LB Black CB Hazell CB Tarkowski RM Winchester/Morais LM Taylor CM Furman CM Stephens/Morais ST Reid ST Feeney/Brooke/Bembo Subs - McGrath, Millar, MVoto to maybe replace Hazell Stephens hasn't gone yet but probably will I can't see Black not signing Not a bad side that, especially if MVOto signs Add a keeper, a striker and keep or replace Stephens and we could do something if they stay fit. As bad as the end of last season was I think it's important to keep most of the same players together as they'll get better the longer they play together, the better they get to know each other & provided the youngsters kick on & establish themselves. I'd prefer just 2 or 3 quality signings for once over the usual complete overhaul Thats the key point for me Harry. Continuity is so, so important. IMO ripping up & starting again season after season with 7/8/9 new signings just makes it so hard to gel the side & develop. If all the remaining players sign up – Reuben H & Paul Black, if we somehow manage to strike gold and get big Jean-Yves to sign on, we only need 3 more in for me. A GK, a CM & a ST. And hopefully; we can afford (somehow) to make those 3 ‘quality additions’. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafcprozac Posted June 17, 2011 Share Posted June 17, 2011 Thats the key point for me Harry. Continuity is so, so important. IMO ripping up & starting again season after season with 7/8/9 new signings just makes it so hard to gel the side & develop. If all the remaining players sign up – Reuben H & Paul Black, if we somehow manage to strike gold and get big Jean-Yves to sign on, we only need 3 more in for me. A GK, a CM & a ST. And hopefully; we can afford (somehow) to make those 3 ‘quality additions’. Pretty much where I am at that, IF we get the two CBs to sign on, although I'd like TWO strikers, bin Feeney, loan out Bembo and Brooke to get them up to speed. AND definitely an older head in CM... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
razza699 Posted June 17, 2011 Share Posted June 17, 2011 Pretty much where I am at that, IF we get the two CBs to sign on, although I'd like TWO strikers, bin Feeney, loan out Bembo and Brooke to get them up to speed. AND definitely an older head in CM... I'd loan Brooke out but keep Bembo , his versatility could be key Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafcprozac Posted June 17, 2011 Share Posted June 17, 2011 I'd loan Brooke out but keep Bembo , his versatility could be key Maybe but even with a good pre-season he's gonna take a good couple of months to get match-fit imo after a year out. A month or two at Accy or Macc would do him good... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryBosch Posted June 17, 2011 Author Share Posted June 17, 2011 Although he didn't seem much of a goal threat we played arguably our best football while Bembo was in the team last season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
razza699 Posted June 17, 2011 Share Posted June 17, 2011 Maybe but even with a good pre-season he's gonna take a good couple of months to get match-fit imo after a year out. A month or two at Accy or Macc would do him good... True, was forgetting about his injury Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafcprozac Posted June 17, 2011 Share Posted June 17, 2011 Although he didn't seem much of a goal threat we played arguably our best football while Bembo was in the team last season Yes he played a big part in the FL Goal of the Year 2011 , soon be crowned European Goal of the Year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slystallone Posted June 17, 2011 Share Posted June 17, 2011 Although he didn't seem much of a goal threat we played arguably our best football while Bembo was in the team last season 1 in 4. bit better ratio than some of our other strikers...... I wouldnt loan him personally; keep at the club to keep him involved. Plenty of reserve games; and involvement on the bench and the odd cameo...ease him back in slowly then BOOM - DJ wil back to fitness & form in no time!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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