FailsworthWest Posted July 18, 2011 Share Posted July 18, 2011 All involved in it Bruce robson Darren ferguson Alex ferguson keane what a joke disgusting on channel 4 now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beag_teeets Posted July 18, 2011 Share Posted July 18, 2011 After the last few weeks, does anything surprise anyone anymore? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FailsworthWest Posted July 18, 2011 Author Share Posted July 18, 2011 I know pal but makes you sick the way they go about when there's clubs like us don't they have enough money they just rip off the smaller clubs what a joke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garcon Posted July 18, 2011 Share Posted July 18, 2011 How did I know there'd be something on here. If you'd actually watched it properly you'd know you're talking bollocks. But let's not let the truth get in the way of an opportunity to call United scum, eh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonesyOAFC Posted July 18, 2011 Share Posted July 18, 2011 How did I know there'd be something on here. If you'd actually watched it properly you'd know you're talking bollocks. But let's not let the truth get in the way of an opportunity to call United scum, eh? I'll take any opportunity I can get. *spits* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FailsworthWest Posted July 18, 2011 Author Share Posted July 18, 2011 Hi garçon let me point out some facts for you Fact 1 robson is ambassador for the scum but he will "manage the manager " Fact 2 the day Darren ferguson left Preston the 2 players went back the "same day" Fact 3 Alex ferguson aswell as steve Bruce Roy keane "will help with players" Fact 4 ferguson "did discuss results but not in a betting way with mr sim "as he can recall" And that's just scratching the surface of man u scum but no they done nothing wrong Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garcon Posted July 18, 2011 Share Posted July 18, 2011 (edited) LOL. Bryan Robson is clearly in it up to his neck. As for Sir Alex, I doubt he'll be having many more meals in the company of Mr Lin or whatever he was called. There was a lot of convenient, completely unproveable suggestion from the people being filmed, but nothing that can or will stick. The Preston thing is typical, that was simple Ferguson nepotism nothing more complicated than that. As for Robson's role as United Global Ambassador, I suspect he might be getting a call in the morning from Mr Gill. Edited July 18, 2011 by garcon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lordLOVErocket80 Posted July 18, 2011 Share Posted July 18, 2011 Wonder if we was being looked at by this group? Remember when the so-called Thai F.A was looking around at a home game last season? Cant remember which game it was now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsslatic Posted July 18, 2011 Share Posted July 18, 2011 Hi garçon let me point out some facts for you Fact 1 robson is ambassador for the scum but he will "manage the manager " Fact 2 the day Darren ferguson left Preston the 2 players went back the "same day" Fact 3 Alex ferguson aswell as steve Bruce Roy keane "will help with players" Fact 4 ferguson "did discuss results but not in a betting way with mr sim "as he can recall" And that's just scratching the surface of man u scum but no they done nothing wrong So what on 'facts' 2-4? As garcon said, Robson is in the :censored: now. No one else has been implicated badly, though bloody hell the FL need to get their house in order. Clubs owned by dead people, insane. It obviously wasn't impossible to get that information...evidently nobody has bothered, or is bothered for that matter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tangerinedreams Posted July 18, 2011 Share Posted July 18, 2011 Shocking, am I surprised? Not really. No doubt there'll be a conference call closely followed by a press release some time tomorrow. This just highlights everything wrong with today's what used to be the working mans pastime Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youngen Posted July 18, 2011 Share Posted July 18, 2011 LOL. Bryan Robson is clearly in it up to his neck. As for Sir Alex, I doubt he'll be having many more meals in the company of Mr Lin or whatever he was called. There was a lot of convenient, completely unproveable suggestion from the people being filmed, but nothing that can or will stick. The Preston thing is typical, that was simple Ferguson nepotism nothing more complicated than that. As for Robson's role as United Global Ambassador, I suspect he might be getting a call in the morning from Mr Gill. Literally! On the recovery from throat cancer isnt he? Sure he will love to add the pressure of the media on top of that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forte_Baby Posted July 19, 2011 Share Posted July 19, 2011 Remember Robson being linked with the Sheff United job a while ago pretty sure they already had a link with a club side from China. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alex_balls Posted July 19, 2011 Share Posted July 19, 2011 Remember Robson being linked with the Sheff United job a while ago pretty sure they already had a link with a club side from China. For those who didn't watch ere programme, can you give a brief synopsis of what happened/what it was about? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted July 19, 2011 Share Posted July 19, 2011 Having seen this, I would say we are now even more grateful to Simon Corney for keeping the club on a tight budget. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slurms mckenzie Posted July 19, 2011 Share Posted July 19, 2011 Having seen this, I would say we are now even more grateful to Simon Corney for keeping the club on a tight budget. I might have misunderstood, but arent we a stand down and four million in debt? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilStarbucksSilkySkills Posted July 19, 2011 Share Posted July 19, 2011 I found it ironic that, as a man trying to convince the dispatches team that he could get them to premiership on the back of "favours", Joe Sim tried to use Preston as an example of what can be achieved with loans given how poorly they performed throughout the season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudemedic Posted July 19, 2011 Share Posted July 19, 2011 Watched this on You Tube (it was on Channel 4 so searching for dispatches on there should find it without too much trouble). It struck me as mainly about some guy who thinks you can buy your way into the Prem from our division, who liked to exagerate how well he knew SAF when really he was some guy who has dinner with him a few times annually. (Although it sounded like there was a back story to the time they first met when SAF was in Thailand and maybe he got SAF out of trouble which would be embarrassing). Yes clubs are for sale- outside of Man City every club in England is for sale for the right price, yes football is corrupt but most sensible people know that. If it wasn't obvious to fans by now that managers use contacts to get players on loan it bloody should be. If you are grateful that Corney is running us then it may come to a shock to you that it many ways I'd prefer Robson and his mates to be our owners than the current landlords. Yes they like to make money and run but so what it would have meant we were doing well as opposed to being in this league. Yes they like to asset strip clubs by selling off the training ground for development- oh wait that's already happened to us. However, Robson flatly outright refused to sell the stadium, now who owns our stadium- oh right some shell company for whom the taxes for came out of the club's budget who are owned by two guys who no longer have having to do with our club. But in the landlords we trust hey chaps, now chin up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longtimeblue Posted July 19, 2011 Share Posted July 19, 2011 Watched this on You Tube (it was on Channel 4 so searching for dispatches on there should find it without too much trouble). It struck me as mainly about some guy who thinks you can buy your way into the Prem from our division, who liked to exagerate how well he knew SAF when really he was some guy who has dinner with him a few times annually. (Although it sounded like there was a back story to the time they first met when SAF was in Thailand and maybe he got SAF out of trouble which would be embarrassing). Yes clubs are for sale- outside of Man City every club in England is for sale for the right price, yes football is corrupt but most sensible people know that. If it wasn't obvious to fans by now that managers use contacts to get players on loan it bloody should be. If you are grateful that Corney is running us then it may come to a shock to you that it many ways I'd prefer Robson and his mates to be our owners than the current landlords. Yes they like to make money and run but so what it would have meant we were doing well as opposed to being in this league. Yes they like to asset strip clubs by selling off the training ground for development- oh wait that's already happened to us. However, Robson flatly outright refused to sell the stadium, now who owns our stadium- oh right some shell company for whom the taxes for came out of the club's budget who are owned by two guys who no longer have having to do with our club. But in the landlords we trust hey chaps, now chin up. Robson's brief business analysis aint no different to what's happened anyway.. Get in, sell the land, try and build on greenbelt. At least he didn't want clubs going under in the process.. Grateful that Corney isn't as shady as alot of owners/consortiums but what the principles were for any outside investors buying a club are fundamentally the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldhamandy1 Posted July 19, 2011 Share Posted July 19, 2011 I am grateful to Corney for what he has done and it is not far to compare him to them, quite simply they couldn't give two :censored:s about any club involved. And as for saying the cut and run technique is ok becuase you can get into the Prem, name one club that has got stronger with that. Is it just me that thinks I would rather be in League 1 with an uncertain future than in the Prem watching the owners stood in a dock after breaking FL rules. The FL chairman said the punishments would be severe, this could be anything at the very least relegation. So back to square one with the club's name in ruin, and yes it would be found out. These were found out and they don't even own a club, it would eventully come out and then the club(s) involved will in serious trouble. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsslatic Posted July 20, 2011 Share Posted July 20, 2011 Watched this on You Tube (it was on Channel 4 so searching for dispatches on there should find it without too much trouble). It struck me as mainly about some guy who thinks you can buy your way into the Prem from our division, who liked to exagerate how well he knew SAF when really he was some guy who has dinner with him a few times annually. (Although it sounded like there was a back story to the time they first met when SAF was in Thailand and maybe he got SAF out of trouble which would be embarrassing). I thought the main point was that Bryan Robson is fronting a group happy to try and break FL rules by owning/influencing multiple clubs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forte_Baby Posted July 20, 2011 Share Posted July 20, 2011 For those who didn't watch ere programme, can you give a brief synopsis of what happened/what it was about? An undercover set of reporters approached a business about taking over a football club. They mainly featured on Bryan Robson and a Chinise buisness who explained ways of getting around FA rules to own two clubs and ways of making a quick profit such as selling a training ground below is the link. http://www.channel4.com/programmes/dispatches/4od#3212204 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeP Posted July 20, 2011 Share Posted July 20, 2011 I thought the main point was that Bryan Robson is fronting a group happy to try and break FL rules by owning/influencing multiple clubs. It was, I think. Got to wonder how much the footage has been manipulated with creative editing with these undercover documentaries, though. Apart from the Robson issue, the other point was that Simm could use his contact (Alex Ferguson) to get players for the clubs they were trying to buy. Don't see a lot wrong with that - wasn't a big reason why Dickov got this job because of the contacts he has? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al_bro Posted July 21, 2011 Share Posted July 21, 2011 So what on 'facts' 2-4? As garcon said, Robson is in the :censored: now. No one else has been implicated badly, though bloody hell the FL need to get their house in order. Clubs owned by dead people, insane. It obviously wasn't impossible to get that information...evidently nobody has bothered, or is bothered for that matter. The FL know the problems, but it was stated that they haven't the money, or resources to find out who really owns the clubs. The companies were all listed offshore, and it would be next to impossible to trace who the real owners are. Look at Leeds no-one new the owners, only that Bates was the front man. When their was a possibility of promotion and a fit and proper board were required by the Premier League, Bates stated that he was now the sole owner, and had bought out the other members of the consortium. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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