Stitch_KTF Posted July 21, 2011 Share Posted July 21, 2011 At OAFC these 2 were miles better, look where they have gone onto, Gregan only stood out because the rest were a load of :censored:e around him. He had one mediocre season. He wouldnt have got a sniff at the starting 11 of the Dowie playoff season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 21, 2011 Share Posted July 21, 2011 Top 10 Centre-Halves in my time (from November '86) 1. Kevin Moore 2. Richard Jobson 3. Earl Barrett 4. Craig Fleming 5. Andy Holden 6. Sean Gregan 7. Steve Redmond 8. Fitz Hall 9. Simon Webster 10. Clint Hill I thought I was the only person who remembered Webster. He was a class act. Although we only saw him for a few games for me he was as good as anyone I have seen play at the back in a blue shirt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youngen Posted July 21, 2011 Share Posted July 21, 2011 Gregan had played at a consistantly higher lever than Fitz and Hill before he came to Latics he moved to us because age and weight was catching up with him In his pomp (granted it was elsewhere) but he was arguably a better player than those 2 captain of west brom playing in midfiled in the premiership (probaly during the dowie playoff season!) Exactly, what was originally posted was one of the best central defenders to wear a blue shirt. In his time at Latics I wouldnt have said that. He came to us at the end of his career and did an average job. Hill and Hall were hitting their peak and therefore were miles better for LATICS. In his time elsewhere I didnt watch Gregan or take a hint of interest in him, but he certainly wasnt in the top 10 LATICS defenders. From what I have seen at BP Hall and Hill stand head and shoulders above Gregan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
palmer1 Posted July 21, 2011 Share Posted July 21, 2011 Exactly, what was originally posted was one of the best central defenders to wear a blue shirt. In his time at Latics I wouldnt have said that. He came to us at the end of his career and did an average job. Hill and Hall were hitting their peak and therefore were miles better for LATICS. In his time elsewhere I didnt watch Gregan or take a hint of interest in him, but he certainly wasnt in the top 10 LATICS defenders. From what I have seen at BP Hall and Hill stand head and shoulders above Gregan you also stated that "look where they have gone onto" gragan was more successful that either of them. all of them played in teams beaten in the playoffs with us - not a lot of diffrence except Gregan would have ripped Furlongs legs off and took a red when he went through a loftus rd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevectm Posted July 21, 2011 Share Posted July 21, 2011 (edited) Exactly, what was originally posted was one of the best central defenders to wear a blue shirt. In his time at Latics I wouldnt have said that. He came to us at the end of his career and did an average job. Hill and Hall were hitting their peak and therefore were miles better for LATICS. In his time elsewhere I didnt watch Gregan or take a hint of interest in him, but he certainly wasnt in the top 10 LATICS defenders. From what I have seen at BP Hall and Hill stand head and shoulders above Gregan Amazed Paul Warhurst's name hasn't been mentioned. Edited July 21, 2011 by stevectm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
palmer1 Posted July 21, 2011 Share Posted July 21, 2011 Amazed Paul Warhurst's name hasn't been mentioned. it has Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Latics_Fanatic Posted July 21, 2011 Share Posted July 21, 2011 Hall and Hill only played 60 games between them. Greegs everyday of the week. Hall and Hill were very good defenders in a very good side.. Hill broke his leg against Crystal Palace so not his fault he couldn't have as much as an impact.. Gregan was a brilliant player in a :censored: team.. kept us up of course, but i think i'd still go for Hall and Hill... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobOAFC Posted July 21, 2011 Share Posted July 21, 2011 Average player for us? One mediocre season for us? So a player almost single handedly kept us up (waits for playitlivo to come and talk about Abbott also helping) and thats an average player for us, and a mediocre season for him? What would make him a good player for us and a good season for him? He might of been a fat lump and in his mid 30's, but he still dominated nearly every striker in division. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monty Burns Posted July 21, 2011 Share Posted July 21, 2011 He wouldnt have got a sniff at the starting 11 of the Dowie playoff season. He would, but he wouldnt have been playing CB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Latics_Fanatic Posted July 21, 2011 Share Posted July 21, 2011 He would, but he wouldnt have been playing CB. He'd of played there when Hill got injured.. great season! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlayItLivo Posted July 21, 2011 Share Posted July 21, 2011 (edited) (waits for playitlivo to come and talk about Abbott also helping) So he didn't? Edited July 21, 2011 by PlayItLivo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youngen Posted July 21, 2011 Share Posted July 21, 2011 :nibble: Gregan was decent but I wouldnt say he was as class as everyone makes out, I hated him while he was here, part of the reason our football under DP was :censored: was Gregans fault... Tackle, long ball into touch, pressure back on. Especially with this supposed midfield mentality, his distribution from the back was shocking at times. Bollocking the kids around him for his own faults, doesnt inspire me to agree with anyone that he was one of our best ever centre backs. Hill and Hall were up against the likes of Dean Ashton, Rob Earnshaw, Nathan Ellington, that league that season was as good as some Championship seasons, theres no comparison to who the better players for Oldham were. Gregan may have had a glittering career but he wasnt this world class defender people make out when he was at Oldham, simple as. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobOAFC Posted July 21, 2011 Share Posted July 21, 2011 So he didn't? Merely saying you would soon be along to point out Abbott helped aswell (never mentioned he didn't help..) :nibble: Gregan was decent but I wouldnt say he was as class as everyone makes out, I hated him while he was here, part of the reason our football under DP was :censored: was Gregans fault... Tackle, long ball into touch, pressure back on. Especially with this supposed midfield mentality, his distribution from the back was shocking at times. Bollocking the kids around him for his own faults, doesnt inspire me to agree with anyone that he was one of our best ever centre backs. Hill and Hall were up against the likes of Dean Ashton, Rob Earnshaw, Nathan Ellington, that league that season was as good as some Championship seasons, theres no comparison to who the better players for Oldham were. Gregan may have had a glittering career but he wasnt this world class defender people make out when he was at Oldham, simple as. Football was :censored: under Penney was Gregans fault? Erm, how? Yes it was his fault about the tactics DP used. Maybe he had to play the long ball because their wasn't anyone available to pass to, you can't blame a player for the way an entire team plays, thats the managers fault as he chooses the tactics and how to play the players, not Gregan. Gregan's been up against Van Nistelroy and Co, obviously no comparision there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafcprozac Posted July 21, 2011 Share Posted July 21, 2011 Warhurst? Linighan? Warhurst played games at cb, but played more games at fullback for us before Trevor francis signed him as a fullback/centre half before he became a striker and eventually a midfielder. Linighan I remember dropping any a bollock he was decent but loses out fir the same reason Marshall does. Wanted to include michel vonk but could only include 10 thought exactly what we lacked after we sold the ageing and increasingly injury prone jobbo just what we needed but stott wouldn't stump up... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haribo_man Posted July 21, 2011 Share Posted July 21, 2011 Gregan is a legend simply for keeping that gob:censored:e Beckford in his back pocket! I can't believe people are trying to belittle his impact. Definately in my top ten Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stitch_KTF Posted July 21, 2011 Share Posted July 21, 2011 I'm pleased this is being debated as I recall a time when there was but a small band of admirers on here. Indeed his popularity sank so low that, had it not been for the groundsman's objections, leeslover and I may not have been here today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
razza699 Posted July 21, 2011 Share Posted July 21, 2011 I'm pleased this is being debated as I recall a time when there was but a small band of admirers on here. Indeed his popularity sank so low that, had it not been for the groundsman's objections, leeslover and I may not have been here today. Do continue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hometownclub Posted July 21, 2011 Share Posted July 21, 2011 I'm pleased this is being debated as I recall a time when there was but a small band of admirers on here. Indeed his popularity sank so low that, had it not been for the groundsman's objections, leeslover and I may not have been here today. We always stood his corner against his many detractors, it gave me the greatest of pleasure to see him win player of the season in all the categories for which he was qualified. I'm quite sure some posters on here have an IQ in single figures. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeslover Posted July 21, 2011 Share Posted July 21, 2011 Gregan is a legend simply for keeping that gob:censored:e Beckford in his back pocket! I can't believe people are trying to belittle his impact. Definately in my top ten The monstering of Bas Savage at Gillingham was my favourite Gregan memory (well, the only bit suitable to be repeated on a family website). I thought he was going to cry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwerty Posted July 21, 2011 Share Posted July 21, 2011 my fave was when he got his chopper out at the dog's and put the club to more shame, YES WAT A LEGEND oh and he didnt stop there oh no the good old chap thought it would be cool to get done for drink and driving wow wat a role model. 100% in my top 10................... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stitch_KTF Posted July 21, 2011 Share Posted July 21, 2011 We always stood his corner against his many detractors, it gave me the greatest of pleasure to see him win player of the season in all the categories for which he was qualified. I'm quite sure some posters on here have an IQ in single figures. You'll always do for me Hometownclub. The monstering of Bas Savage at Gillingham was my favourite Gregan memory (well, the only bit suitable to be repeated on a family website). I thought he was going to cry. That would be the occasion their gaffer angrily hauled Savage off first half for looking 'scared', right? Bar his strut and general demeanour, I'm not sure what I found most entertaining about the big man. His cocksure manner of enforcement or his calmness in fooling a pressing cenre-forward with a drop of the shoulder or a Cruyff turn. And he was the best passer on our books once Wellens left. And he had a wank in a chippy. Football legend - someone bring out a T-shirt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobOAFC Posted July 21, 2011 Share Posted July 21, 2011 my fave was when he got his chopper out at the dog's and put the club to more shame, YES WAT A LEGEND oh and he didnt stop there oh no the good old chap thought it would be cool to get done for drink and driving wow wat a role model. 100% in my top 10................... Yes, because you base how good a player is on the field by what happens off field. But if you doing off field, how about when he went to a boot camp to lose to help him get a new contract? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldhamandy1 Posted July 21, 2011 Share Posted July 21, 2011 Also didn't to he openly admit to being an idiot in his programme notes the season after, its obvious from other stuff he sadi that he was having personnal problems. We can't really condemm Gregan's off field behaviour when there are still people on here who would love Lee Hughes back, and he was one of the biggest morons to ever play here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slystallone Posted July 22, 2011 Share Posted July 22, 2011 Eurh - it's really annoying when you block / ignore a poster and then others quote them in replies and you then actually still end up reading their drivel; boo-hiss Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeslover Posted July 22, 2011 Share Posted July 22, 2011 I would definately buy a, "how many pints?" shirt. It would start dozens of interesting pub conversations, although i am still frustrated at not knowing the answer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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