brad Posted November 6, 2011 Share Posted November 6, 2011 With the likes of Morais being dropped and other first team regulars from last year isnt it his time to get dropped because he just goes missing in the game try mellor on the left for JPT and Paul black left back and see if it improves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted November 6, 2011 Share Posted November 6, 2011 With the likes of Morais being dropped and other first team regulars from last year isnt it his time to get dropped because he just goes missing in the game try mellor on the left for JPT and Paul black left back and see if it improves. I have also noticed he is a slow starter, something in common with the rest of the midfield in particular, in too many games Latics are conceding the early initiative and the manager needs to get his players to impose themselves on the opposition from the kick off. A prime example was yesterday when Bury were well on top even before Latics went down to 10 men. If Latics allow Crewe and Burton to dominate early they could be in for a couple of cup shocks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
opinions4u Posted November 6, 2011 Share Posted November 6, 2011 Chris Taylor, assuming he's fit, should not be dropped. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldhamandy1 Posted November 6, 2011 Share Posted November 6, 2011 Seems to defend a lot when Mellor at LB, takes counter attacking threat away Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobOAFC Posted November 6, 2011 Share Posted November 6, 2011 Chris Taylor, assuming he's fit, should not be dropped. Hmm, i think he should be rested on Tuesday. Morais is more than able to come in onto the wing, especially against a league two side. Few other players should have a slight rest on Tuesday aswell such as Kuqi, Simpson etc. I'd line them up on Tuesday as: Gerrard Lee M'voto Tarky Black Scapuzzi Furman Winchester Morais Smith Brooke/Mancini Subs: Simpson/Connor if a keeper on bench..If not then Adeyemi Taylor Kuqi Diamond Mellor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaskedOwl Posted November 6, 2011 Share Posted November 6, 2011 if Taylor is dropped im not goin again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j@cko Posted November 6, 2011 Share Posted November 6, 2011 Dickov HAS TO play his best side which im sure he will, and that wil include Tayls, Simmo n Kuqi,,,for the first time in years their is optimism surrounding this competition, n long may it continue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted November 6, 2011 Share Posted November 6, 2011 Dickov HAS TO play his best side which im sure he will, and that wil include Tayls, Simmo n Kuqi,,,for the first time in years their is optimism surrounding this competition, n long may it continue What is his best side ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafcprozac Posted November 6, 2011 Share Posted November 6, 2011 What is his best side ? I said yesterday he doesn't know and hasn't since the day he arrived….his constant tinkering just like last season means it will forever be two steps forward and three back. When we need him to change the game with subs, he is left wanting….Bury would have wobbled had we nicked a goal, he simply didn't know what to do to change it…. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lancy lad Posted November 6, 2011 Share Posted November 6, 2011 if Taylor is dropped im not goin again. Put your dummy back in! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaskedOwl Posted November 6, 2011 Share Posted November 6, 2011 Put your dummy back in! its not out.............yet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lancy lad Posted November 6, 2011 Share Posted November 6, 2011 its not out.............yet He is having his worst season for us and needs to buck his ideas up. Nobody should be immune from being dropped if they are not putting the effort in! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beag_teeets Posted November 6, 2011 Share Posted November 6, 2011 We need a Prozac sign like the batsign. How many goals & assists does Taylor have this season compared to previous seasons? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Break The Silence Posted November 6, 2011 Share Posted November 6, 2011 Hmm, i think he should be rested on Tuesday. Morais is more than able to come in onto the wing, especially against a league two side. Few other players should have a slight rest on Tuesday aswell such as Kuqi, Simpson etc. I'd line them up on Tuesday as: Gerrard Lee M'voto Tarky Black Scapuzzi Furman Winchester Morais Smith Brooke/Mancini Subs: Simpson/Connor if a keeper on bench..If not then Adeyemi Taylor Kuqi Diamond Mellor We're not even close to being good enough to rest our best players in any competition. If we don't play our strongest XI on Tuesday then we're out, simple as... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
astottie Posted November 6, 2011 Share Posted November 6, 2011 With the likes of Morais being dropped and other first team regulars from last year isnt it his time to get dropped because he just goes missing in the game try mellor on the left for JPT and Paul black left back and see if it improves. I know its all about opinions but for me only 3 outfield players really showed up yesterday and Taylor was one one of them, Sometimes i don't know what the poor lad has to do to get a positive response on here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobOAFC Posted November 6, 2011 Share Posted November 6, 2011 We're not even close to being good enough to rest our best players in any competition. If we don't play our strongest XI on Tuesday then we're out, simple as... Can't play players for 46 league games and then cup games aswell which currently would stand at 49 games. Some of them, especially Kuqi will be knackered after all the chasing they had to do other day. Much rather play a more weakened side in a cup game against lower opposition than in the league, which is our priority. It also enables some of the back-up/fringe/youth players to get valuable first team action and show Dickov what they can do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaskedOwl Posted November 6, 2011 Share Posted November 6, 2011 He is having his worst season for us and needs to buck his ideas up. Nobody should be immune from being dropped if they are not putting the effort in! is he??? or is it just that he has better players around him this season? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slystallone Posted November 7, 2011 Share Posted November 7, 2011 I said yesterday he doesn't know and hasn't since the day he arrived….his constant tinkering just like last season means it will forever be two steps forward and three back. When we need him to change the game with subs, he is left wanting….Bury would have wobbled had we nicked a goal, he simply didn't know what to do to change it…. Really not his biggest fan are you? Taylor won't be dropped & shouldn't IMO. He was quality second half on Saturday. He's lost a bit of his attacking threat as he's having to watch out for an inexperienced LB. Once Black is back at LB, I think we'll see a improved Taylor. In no way should he be dropped..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edhunteruk Posted November 7, 2011 Share Posted November 7, 2011 I know its all about opinions but for me only 3 outfield players really showed up yesterday and Taylor was one one of them, Sometimes i don't know what the poor lad has to do to get a positive response on here. second half maybe,first half he went missing.... i dont know whether its me,or what the definition of a winger is,but i thought it was someone who played out wide got chalk on there boots and ran down the flank firing crosses in.. saturday after the sending off he was crap for rest of half,constantly going into middle of field hiding and leaving the wing exposed,which bury used to there advantage to get forward easy and fire crosses over....had he stuck to thw ing he would of forced bury to go down the middle.... second half fair enough,apart from his blatant dive he improved....he just needs to put in a full shift.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldhamandy1 Posted November 7, 2011 Share Posted November 7, 2011 The role of the winger has changed though, look at United or City this season both have wingers cutting in with the full back overlapping. Besides with Taylor playing on the left cutting inside is his best bet to be a threat, sometimes he does it too early though not allowing Mellor, Black or the rarley spotted but highly rated Diallo to catch up. And before people start shouting for him to switch wings, when on the right he is no where near as dangerous and easy to beat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al_bro Posted November 7, 2011 Share Posted November 7, 2011 Seems to defend a lot when Mellor at LB, takes counter attacking threat away You have hit the nail on the head there. We need Black back in the team, Mellor isn't a left back in a month of Sundays. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshgaz Posted November 7, 2011 Share Posted November 7, 2011 I really don't understand calls for Black to be brought back into the team or that Mellor isn't a left back. He struggles positionally but so does Black. He gives us so much going forward where as Black offers nothing. Distribution and first touch both quality. Also he is strong in the air. Black was targeted aerially on numerous occasions last season and it cost us. Sheff Wednesday at home and Saints at home spring to mind. Keep playing Mellor there but offer him more protection. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brad Posted November 7, 2011 Author Share Posted November 7, 2011 I really don't understand calls for Black to be brought back into the team or that Mellor isn't a left back. He struggles positionally but so does Black. He gives us so much going forward where as Black offers nothing. Distribution and first touch both quality. Also he is strong in the air. Black was targeted aerially on numerous occasions last season and it cost us. Sheff Wednesday at home and Saints at home spring to mind. Keep playing Mellor there but offer him more protection. Who is going to protect him without loosing a battle in a similar position eg Furman protecting then they will target down the middle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lancy lad Posted November 7, 2011 Share Posted November 7, 2011 second half maybe,first half he went missing.... i dont know whether its me,or what the definition of a winger is,but i thought it was someone who played out wide got chalk on there boots and ran down the flank firing crosses in.. saturday after the sending off he was crap for rest of half,constantly going into middle of field hiding and leaving the wing exposed,which bury used to there advantage to get forward easy and fire crosses over....had he stuck to thw ing he would of forced bury to go down the middle.... second half fair enough,apart from his blatant dive he improved....he just needs to put in a full shift.... Absolutely spot on, I thought he did well 2nd half and although I never said he needs dropping he shouldnt be immune from it as some feel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafcprozac Posted November 7, 2011 Share Posted November 7, 2011 Really not his biggest fan are you? Taylor won't be dropped & shouldn't IMO. He was quality second half on Saturday. He's lost a bit of his attacking threat as he's having to watch out for an inexperienced LB. Once Black is back at LB, I think we'll see a improved Taylor. In no way should he be dropped..... It's not that i'm not a fan, I believe that after 17 months at the helm he should not be immune to criticism. He's done many good things - getting the fans onside was one of them and the start to last season but since then he's chopped and changed and it in the main has not worked. I still believe if we'd not got that penalty at Notts County we would have been relegated last season…. As for Taylor the first goal was down to him not tracking his runner, he stopped and left the lad a clear run and cross, that's poor as an experienced head. I wouldn't drop him, simply because there's no-one else imo that's any better in that position, as for Dickov I hope he sticks to his word and picks his strongest available team for the two cup-ties but it really is time he backed his first choice pairing and stuck with them instead of pissing about chopping and changing, and no more loanees. I Time for Black to be reinstated and Mellor to be given a chance inside if Wes is still injured, Adeyemi should be sent back he's been average at best. Team for tomorrow night.. Gerrard Lee M'Voto Diamond Black Simpson Furman Mellor Taylor Kuqi Scapuzzi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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