jimsleftfoot Posted August 23, 2012 Share Posted August 23, 2012 I like Dickov and want him to suceed, but making tactical mistakes again and again is not learning. Early season yes but 2 wins in 20 is not good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted August 23, 2012 Share Posted August 23, 2012 (edited) I like Dickov and want him to suceed, but making tactical mistakes again and again is not learning. Early season yes but 2 wins in 20 is not good. IMO PD is too cautuous, against a team like Walsall - who had a very suspect keeper, we should have thrown the kitchen sink at them instead of handing over the initiative in the second half. Too many teams coming to BP are allowed to set the pace and make tactical substitutions that appear to work in their favour, yet PDs rarely seem to work. Conceding goals does matter, but he needs to realise fans want to see lots of action in and around the opposition penalty area, it's not a game of chess. He is a likeable guy, but maybe he needs to become a no more Mr nice guy regarding his teams failings. Edited August 23, 2012 by BP1960 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
palmer1 Posted August 23, 2012 Share Posted August 23, 2012 (edited) IMO PD is too cautuous, against a team like Walsall - who had a very suspect keeper, we should have thrown the kitchen sink at them instead of handing over the initiative in the second half. Too many teams coming to BP are allowed to set the pace and make tactical substitutions that appear to work in their favour, yet PDs rarely seem to work. Conceding goals does matter, but he needs to realise fans want to see lots of action in and around the opposition penalty area, it's not a game of chess. He is a likeable guy, but maybe he needs to become a no more Mr nice guy regarding his teams failings. I agree at home we should set the pace against opposing team, its ouR job to put visitors on the back foot but maybe in the Walsall changing room at half time their manager said the same......Oldham have a suspect keeper that if you get at him will make the mistakes, get the tempo up and the crowd will turn and get nervous very early especially if we keep it to 1 for the first 15 of the second half. some things our current manager or a new manager cant change and that the temperament of a young squad who lose confidence very quickly, only more games and more experience will help with that......of course experience players brought in would but that cant happen in the current climate. maybe one thing that could have been done differently is when buying players we should have put together an older squad especially if you want to see more consistent results right away, maybe 2 more experience bodies before the deadline will help......sometimes thats all it takes IMO Edited August 23, 2012 by palmer1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slystallone Posted August 23, 2012 Share Posted August 23, 2012 Yep, Dickov out. He's shown he can't progress us. I'd make a move to bring Garth Crooks in, he has some innovative new ideas on formations Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singe Posted August 23, 2012 Share Posted August 23, 2012 Yep, Dickov out. He's shown he can't progress us. I'd make a move to bring Garth Crooks in, he has some innovative new ideas on formations Imagine how big a pad his notes would need for his subs..... The other team would be out and have scored 6 by the time he'd finshed his half time team talk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted August 23, 2012 Share Posted August 23, 2012 Imagine how big a pad his notes would need for his subs..... The other team would be out and have scored 6 by the time he'd finshed his half time team talk. Imagine showing this to a substitute before he takes the field; Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonesyOAFC Posted August 23, 2012 Share Posted August 23, 2012 I more a fan of Paul Ince's simplistic approach to tactics Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keepingthe Faith Posted August 23, 2012 Share Posted August 23, 2012 (edited) I more a fan of Paul Ince's simplistic approach to tactics Ha ha Does the other end say save? Edited August 23, 2012 by Keepingthe Faith Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted August 23, 2012 Share Posted August 23, 2012 I more a fan of Paul Ince's simplistic approach to tactics Good one "Just follow these instructions lads to the letter and a win in certain" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slystallone Posted August 23, 2012 Share Posted August 23, 2012 I more a fan of Paul Ince's simplistic approach to tactics I feckin' love that clip, always good to see it again. And he wonders why he isn't still in management? He blames racism, I blame a complete managerial ineptitude. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slystallone Posted August 23, 2012 Share Posted August 23, 2012 Our new manager: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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BP1960 Posted August 23, 2012 Share Posted August 23, 2012 (edited) Our new manager: lol...an extra man always helps, I also liked "The entire Korean team defended in their own 18 yard box, it really was impressive". Even DP never tried that 'impressive' tactic. Edited August 23, 2012 by BP1960 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted August 23, 2012 Share Posted August 23, 2012 Anyone remember this work of art ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted August 23, 2012 Share Posted August 23, 2012 All we need is for Montana to adopt Pele's simple tactic on Saturday and its goals galore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UpTheLatics Posted August 23, 2012 Share Posted August 23, 2012 I've never called for a manager's head at a game before and I won't start now. I do, however, know when I've had enough or I can't see how the club would move forward. I never took to Penney and I knew Sheridan's reign had to end. The thing with having a manager in place for longer thana year is that we can judge them better.So far we've seen the crippling errors and signs that have hindered us thus far with Dickov. Have I had enough of Dickov? It pains me to say it but he no longer enthuses me. I'm bored of his antics - or lack thereof - on the pitchside. He talks a good game but what he says doesn't matter, it's what he does. He doesn't do much. He says we play good football. It's embarrassing to even suggest we do. On Tuesday he shouted to M'Changama "pass it!". So why aren't the players listening? It's because he protects them and doesn't criticise them. He's like a doting mother when really the players need some touch, hard truths. Some aren't as good as they like to believe, their attitude as a collective is weak, they shy away from the scrap. If he started to demand twice as much as he does currently we'd have finished no lower than 12th. Our team isn't as poor as some like to make out. I do want him to remain, though. I think I'm sucked in, as I think a lot of supporters are, by the fact he's a lovely, likeable bloke. But I grow ever weary with his and the team's shoddy, spineless performances. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zorrro Posted August 24, 2012 Share Posted August 24, 2012 He seems like a nice chap, which may or may not be part of the problem, and I don't necessarily want him to go - I'll leave that to those that see him on a far more regular basis - but I wouldn't be too upset if he did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
razza699 Posted August 24, 2012 Share Posted August 24, 2012 (edited) Great formation . I bet we would still manage to lose Edited August 24, 2012 by razza699 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnthonyOAFC Posted August 24, 2012 Share Posted August 24, 2012 He seems like a nice chap, which may or may not be part of the problem, and I don't necessarily want him to go - I'll leave that to those that see him on a far more regular basis - but I wouldn't be too upset if he did. This! I like Dickov, I think he's a proper nice bloke and I don't want to see him go but If we lose on Saturday and things don't get better in the next couple of weeks. He's in trouble. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafcprozac Posted August 24, 2012 Author Share Posted August 24, 2012 (edited) I think that's fair, crap budget or not, even Stitch was under a lot of pressure in his third season, most of the crowd at the early season debacle at Rotherham wanted him out…so much so Granada Reports did a feature the day after. But after winning only 1 in the first ten, we then only lost 3 in the next 18. So it can turn, note of caution Stitch was allowed to bring a few in including Eyres and Carss. Corney needs to stop bull:censored:ting and put his hand in his pocket. 17 out 8 in Of those 8 2 loanees 3 1 year deals 3 2 year deals 1 of the signings - Jacobs will be nowhere near the first team and at 17 will be getting peanuts. We're 3/4 players light - wish we'd just had a decent cash gate v City and a TV appearance... Edited August 24, 2012 by oafcprozac Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigfatjoe1 Posted August 24, 2012 Share Posted August 24, 2012 PD is a very likeable person. He conducts himself really well and is very professional. i llike him. i wonder about his tactics. this is season three. i wonder about his man management - never thought i'd ask it, but is he too soft with them? we do seem to be moving in decreasing circles. that said, how can he manage with the money he has been given. we have two right backs, two centre backs pluis an untried kid and one left back plus someone who may or may not be a left back. that is ridiculous. PD hasn't overloaded any other part of the squad. on the contrary. we need a dominant midfield player and another striker. PD has his faults but who else can plant rock horse :censored:? seriosly, we're in a vicious cricle and the only solution is the owner spending some money to boost the squad to improve performances to get the team moving up to get the fans back. otherwise the question of the mamager is a red herring. we're screwed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc1955 Posted August 24, 2012 Share Posted August 24, 2012 Absolutely .... A Leon Clarke and a Jason Koumas type could be the difference between a relegation battle and a playoff campaign. If that pushes up the average home gate by 500 over the season it would pay for itself!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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