PlayItLivo Posted June 3, 2012 Share Posted June 3, 2012 Good player, we should have kept him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshgaz Posted June 3, 2012 Share Posted June 3, 2012 Good player, we should have kept him. on the slim chance that he might be fit? We can't afford to pay people who don't look after themselves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldhamandy1 Posted June 3, 2012 Share Posted June 3, 2012 42 games 8 goals I think I read somewhere, that alone is enough to say he should be gone. Strikers target 1 in 3 at the very least, tubby, slow, lazy, always offside and apart from 1 or 2 games awful. At the start of the season he looked like he might be dangerous but he didn't once Kuqi came in, lest we forget when he went off v MK we ripped them apart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lancy lad Posted June 3, 2012 Share Posted June 3, 2012 42 games 8 goals I think I read somewhere, that alone is enough to say he should be gone. Strikers target 1 in 3 at the very least, tubby, slow, lazy, always offside and apart from 1 or 2 games awful. At the start of the season he looked like he might be dangerous but he didn't once Kuqi came in, lest we forget when he went off v MK we ripped them apart. It would be interesting to know how many of those were penalties? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshgaz Posted June 3, 2012 Share Posted June 3, 2012 It would be interesting to know how many of those were penalties? 5? Scored from open play On his debut, away to orient and at notts If my knowledge serves me correct. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldhamains Posted June 3, 2012 Share Posted June 3, 2012 KMB Said on twitter he's fit and in shape. Reid that is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnthonyOAFC Posted June 3, 2012 Share Posted June 3, 2012 lol but what shape? A round massive fat shape. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevie_J Posted June 4, 2012 Share Posted June 4, 2012 In shape or not, he's gash. Even when he had a good run of form early this season, I wasn't that impressed (admittedly on limited viewing). A striker who amost never scores from open play - good riddance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
palmer1 Posted June 4, 2012 Share Posted June 4, 2012 In shape or not, he's gash. Even when he had a good run of form early this season, I wasn't that impressed (admittedly on limited viewing). A striker who amost never scores from open play - good riddance. its seems Wellback can get in the England squad doing the same Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lukers1 Posted June 4, 2012 Author Share Posted June 4, 2012 its seems Wellback can get in the England squad doing the same Yeah, cause Rubes never tracked back to win the ball back, play a subline pass and go and cooly draw the keeper and chip the ball into the back of the net. Its all down to opinions, Wellbecks performance for England aganist Belgium was the makings of a good player. Next Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
palmer1 Posted June 4, 2012 Share Posted June 4, 2012 Yeah, cause Rubes never tracked back to win the ball back, play a subline pass and go and cooly draw the keeper and chip the ball into the back of the net. Its all down to opinions, Wellbecks performance for England aganist Belgium was the makings of a good player. Next yes he scored in a friendly and it was a very good goal! but if tracking back and not scoring regulary for your club gets you a cap then alot of players should be turning out for their country and he is the "makings of a good player" is he? do you win tournamnets with good players or the "makings of a good player" when he is made into a good player call him up then ffs! Next Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rosa Posted June 4, 2012 Share Posted June 4, 2012 KMB Said on twitter he's fit and in shape. Reid that is. KMB says a lot of things on Twitter. "Bigger and better things next season." Bless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lukers1 Posted June 4, 2012 Author Share Posted June 4, 2012 (edited) yes he scored in a friendly and it was a very good goal! but if tracking back and not scoring regulary for your club gets you a cap then alot of players should be turning out for their country and he is the "makings of a good player" is he? do you win tournamnets with good players or the "makings of a good player" when he is made into a good player call him up then ffs! Next So whats you point, some other players in the England team have the makings of a good player, they arent going to progress if they dont get international experience. Your lack of sence is summed by your "FFS comment". Plus he stats are pretty good to say he hasnt been a regular, 98 appearences with 25 goals. Edited June 4, 2012 by Lukers1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slystallone Posted June 4, 2012 Share Posted June 4, 2012 Welbeck being in the squad, heck; close to starting shows the void in class between Rooney and our next best strikers. On ability, achievements & club form, he should be nowhere near the side IMO.....but by that token, neither should Sturidge, or Carroll. It just shows that we're just not producing enough quality players. The likes of Rooney are the exceptions; not the norm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
palmer1 Posted June 4, 2012 Share Posted June 4, 2012 (edited) So whats you point, some other players in the England team have the makings of a good player, they arent going to progress if they dont get international experience. Your lack of sence is summed by your "FFS comment". Plus he stats are pretty good to say he hasnt been a regular, 98 appearences with 25 goals. you shouldnt be in the England squad if you are not a good player already you dont get in if you are nearly good enough or might be good enough in the future your lack of sense is summed by the fact you would have players who are not good enough going to a tournament in the hope that they might improve if they play - that why and i wrote "ffs" because i thought you were talking :censored: Edited June 4, 2012 by palmer1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lukers1 Posted June 4, 2012 Author Share Posted June 4, 2012 you shouldnt be in the England squad if you are not a good player already you dont get in if you are nearly good enough or might be good enough in the future your lack of sense is summed by the fact you would have players who are not good enough going to a tournament in the hope that they might improve if they play - that why and i wrote "ffs" because i thought you were talking :censored: Why are you so aggresive? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lukers1 Posted June 16, 2012 Author Share Posted June 16, 2012 Think he proved himself last night. Get yourself a napkin Mr Angry, you have just beeh served.... yes he scored in a friendly and it was a very good goal! but if tracking back and not scoring regulary for your club gets you a cap then alot of players should be turning out for their country and he is the "makings of a good player" is he? do you win tournamnets with good players or the "makings of a good player" when he is made into a good player call him up then ffs! Next Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
palmer1 Posted June 16, 2012 Share Posted June 16, 2012 Think he proved himself last night. Get yourself a napkin Mr Angry, you have just beeh served.... I have obviously touched a nerve with you? Mr Angry? maybe...sometimes so like you I was so happy when Welbeck scored last night and England won the Euros - oh wait a minute......... Q. Walcott, Carroll, and Welbeck? besides scoring last night what have they got in common A. Nobody believes thay are good enough to play for England on a consistent basis as they are not world class and generally are not good enough Wellbeck worked very hard and scored a goal - did he mean the back heel...very debatable Sweden are a poor outfit who we should be beating and scoring against did he prove himself against France??? NO! will he do it against Italy or Spain??? hope so but doubt it? he is an England international by association I was very chuffed last night but keep serving Im still hungry!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oh Heck C-Beck Posted June 16, 2012 Share Posted June 16, 2012 I thought Wellbeck played very well vs France considering the way we lined up and the tactics used. Thought he was much less effective vs Sweden until the goal. Think he has a good future. Was very impressed with Carroll as a target man last night, from what I have seen when he has played for England he has given the ball away very few times and has been able to bring others in to the game. Frustrating players for me were Milner and Scott Parker. Taking too long on the ball when there was a simple pass on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lancy lad Posted June 16, 2012 Share Posted June 16, 2012 I thought Wellbeck played very well vs France considering the way we lined up and the tactics used. Thought he was much less effective vs Sweden until the goal. Think he has a good future. Was very impressed with Carroll as a target man last night, from what I have seen when he has played for England he has given the ball away very few times and has been able to bring others in to the game. Frustrating players for me were Milner and Scott Parker. Taking too long on the ball when there was a simple pass on. Milner should never be allowed to wear an England shirt again after the :censored: he served up last night. :censored:ing rubbish! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lukers1 Posted June 16, 2012 Author Share Posted June 16, 2012 I have obviously touched a nerve with you? Mr Angry? maybe...sometimes so like you I was so happy when Welbeck scored last night and England won the Euros - oh wait a minute......... Q. Walcott, Carroll, and Welbeck? besides scoring last night what have they got in common A. Nobody believes thay are good enough to play for England on a consistent basis as they are not world class and generally are not good enough Wellbeck worked very hard and scored a goal - did he mean the back heel...very debatable Sweden are a poor outfit who we should be beating and scoring against did he prove himself against France??? NO! will he do it against Italy or Spain??? hope so but doubt it? he is an England international by association I was very chuffed last night but keep serving Im still hungry!!!!! I was in Belfast last night when he scored the winner, i bet yer beer tasted sweeter.... Although I struggle to read yout posts , it seems we are on an even keel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeslover Posted June 16, 2012 Share Posted June 16, 2012 Was very impressed with Carroll as a target man last night, from what I have seen when he has played for England he has given the ball away very few times and has been able to bring others in to the game. Maybe in so far as we played with a target man, but I don't think we will get anywhere playing that approach. If we are going to be banging balls at his head they need to be coming at least from some sort of an angle if not sideways. OK with the odd hoof to him in times of need but it's not working as a regular tatic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldhamains Posted June 16, 2012 Share Posted June 16, 2012 Of course Wellbeck meant it palmer1. It was a great goal. An xbox fifa goal! Loved it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lukers1 Posted June 17, 2012 Author Share Posted June 17, 2012 Wellbeck is a good player and will improve with every international game he plays in. His goal, no way is it debatable Palmer, i saw him score a goal like that for Preston Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
palmer1 Posted June 17, 2012 Share Posted June 17, 2012 (edited) Wellbeck is a good player and will improve with every international game he plays in. His goal, no way is it debatable Palmer, i saw him score a goal like that for Preston i saw Miliigan score one even better than that against City i think he just hoped to get any part of his body on it! did he mean to back heel it?....maybe but could have just been luck, debatable Edited June 17, 2012 by palmer1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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