laticsrblue Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 It's been claimed that training in the Portuguese heat will benefit the players when they return. Can't see it myself. Looking at it from a layman's point of view it seems to me that they will do less muscular activity before they get knackered than they would in a cooler Oldham, so their muscles will not get stronger, unless of course they have an air-conditioned gym to work out in. All they are doing is becoming more able to cope with exerting themselves in a hot climate which is useless. Wouldn't a week away at a UK training facility would have been much more beneficial. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Microcuts Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 I have wondered this myself actually. I don't think it's really about muscle strength as such.. more muscle endurance. I.e. continuing through fatigue which sets in quicker in the heat. When back home, fatigue wont set in as quickly and when it does they should be more adept at playing through it. I don't know though, best to ask a physio/sports scientist I guess! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UpTheLatics Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 It tests both mental/muscular endurance, but it's true it doesn't quite apply to English conditions. Jim Gannon took his team to Chill Factor. A few days later they won their first pre-season friendly 8-0... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeslover Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 Although it's beneficial to push the body in different circumstances to focus on particular weaknesses against the conditions. I guess the reason they do hot weather at this time though is to reduce the chance of strains and pulls from slightly under-trained muscles in the cold and wet, and a fair chance of doing some ball work on a decent surface Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maddog Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 And the ability to do some team bonding away from prying eyes / temptation. It's a few days - how much the climate is similar to here is probably irrelevant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeslover Posted July 18, 2012 Share Posted July 18, 2012 temptation. Erm... That would be the area that a large electronics company I once knew a little about took the smaller and medium sized customers for their jolly. Boys own stuff I believe, and that in the off season... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laticsrblue Posted July 18, 2012 Author Share Posted July 18, 2012 And the ability to do some team bonding away from prying eyes / temptation. It's a few days - how much the climate is similar to here is probably irrelevant. They could probably have gone away for bonding and training somewhere in the UK but I would guess that Portugal was a cheaper option. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeslover Posted July 18, 2012 Share Posted July 18, 2012 They could probably have gone away for bonding and training somewhere in the UK but I would guess that Portugal was a cheaper option. No, how could they relax being recognised and followed by fans everywhere they went? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudemedic Posted July 18, 2012 Share Posted July 18, 2012 Depends on the level of heat really. I know the GB Hockey teams trained in a heated chamber prior to a big tourney in Argentina (where temperatures were similar to what they were in Portugal over the last week), but that was an acclimatisation issue. Essentially training in the warm ought to limit the number of muscle strains and tears, but conversely it will increase the risk of cramp (which is less serious). Having done a quick google search there is some benefit, training at 50% intensity in hot conditions is more beneficial than training at 50% intensity in cold conditions. The mental health benefits of training in the warm compared to the cold and wet would probably be noticeable. There's the banter element which seems to have had some positive effect. However, training in hot conditions as a significant risk of serious health problems (like collapse and death) but these can be planned for and can be reduced with proper hydration. In hindsight given the weather the Oldham area has had over the last week going to Portugal for a week ought to have been worth the money, I wouldn't have been so sure if we had a week of good weather. Having said that if it could be guaranteed nice weather then training at altitude will have a much greater benefit than training somewhere 10 degrees Celsius warmer, but training at altitude is much harder to guarantee good weather. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaskedOwl Posted July 18, 2012 Share Posted July 18, 2012 off topic.....is it beneficial when tryin to strengthen the team in terms of new players? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singe Posted July 18, 2012 Share Posted July 18, 2012 off topic.....is it beneficial when tryin to strengthen the team in terms of new players? I think it is well recognised that the middle of July is not genereally when players sign in great numbers Once they don;t get paid in July they tend to sign after that! There have ben only 19 signings in total since they went away average about 5 per day. And of course, they have not gone to the moon and can still telephone and email, and text. In fact, with SC there too, they may get more done, relatively undisturbed. And Orient have sign most of those! Preston of the south! Bit of oanic buying going on there I think Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monty Burns Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 I think it works. Its harder in the heat, so if your body can push it limits in the heat, you shouldnt reach that limit in the cold? Kind of like training at altitiude, but not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laticsrblue Posted August 28, 2012 Author Share Posted August 28, 2012 So it doesn't work - well not for us. From today's Chron SC "...other teams look fitter and stronger than we do." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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