real Posted May 11, 2013 Share Posted May 11, 2013 Billions of light years? Nah, Wigan got to where they are with millions of Dave Whelan's money, one rich bloke who can truly afford it buying us gives us the opportunity. The problem is that requires our landlords to step aside either by selling up or going bust. I'm always amazed that people think corney wouldn't step aside if someone came along who would 1. pay a sensible price for the elements of OAFC they want to acquire - i.e just the club with no ground £0 / the land & ground at its market value (? £6m?) 2. would give some guarantee that they would not either do a chris moore or lack the funding/ability to sustain the club Are you seriously suggesting that the bigger problem of:- 1. Finding a multi-multi-millionaire (>£100m net) who is willing to buy and splurge on Latics 2. Corney et al stepping aside is problem 2. ? You need to see a doctor if you think it's 2. Anyway, on topic:- Wigan have won the FA cup. Latics' best achievement is Runners up in the top flight division ; finalists in the League cup ; semi-finalists in the FA cup (2). Latics have not won a major trophy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimsleftfoot Posted May 11, 2013 Share Posted May 11, 2013 (edited) We got to the final. They won a cup in a tougher era against a team with much more quality than we faced, Hate 'em all you want, but what they achieved today isn't to be sniffed at. We're billions of light years away from achieving what they have today. They won the right to the name Latics today. Fair play to Wigan but City didn't play well today or show their quality. Wigan also had a pretty easy route to the final, especially with Everton not showing up. They are also an established premiership side who have spent a considerable amount of money on there team. We were a second string budget side in comparison. If you add to the fact we played in the same amount of rounds to the finalists this season and put 9 goals past higher league opposition, we can hold our heads as high as Wigan. Edited May 11, 2013 by jimsleftfoot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudemedic Posted May 11, 2013 Share Posted May 11, 2013 I'm always amazed that people think corney wouldn't step aside if someone came along who would 1. pay a sensible price for the elements of OAFC they want to acquire - i.e just the club with no ground £0 / the land & ground at its market value (? £6m?) 2. would give some guarantee that they would not either do a chris moore or lack the funding/ability to sustain the club Are you seriously suggesting that the bigger problem of:- 1. Finding a multi-multi-millionaire (>£100m net) who is willing to buy and splurge on Latics 2. Corney et al stepping aside is problem 2. ? You need to see a doctor if you think it's 2. Anyway, on topic:- Wigan have won the FA cup. Latics' best achievement is Runners up in the top flight division ; finalists in the League cup ; semi-finalists in the FA cup (2). Latics have not won a major trophy. No of course, by far the biggest problem is finding someone willing to pay market value for the club who can afford to splash the cash required. However, market/sensible value and the value our Landlords put on the club are not necessarily the same thing. Incidentally we've got to the FA cup semi finals on 3 occasions. The first time we did Wigan (Athletic) FC didn't exist. Plus the original post was about, because they stole our nickname, that being the closest we are going to get to winning a major trophy. I said that was bollocks because we were in the final of a major competition. Not to mention coming second in the first division (again before Wigan Athletic existed). We have come within 90 minutes of winning a major trophy on 2 seperate occasions. That is pretty darn close. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeLatics Posted May 11, 2013 Share Posted May 11, 2013 Billions of light years? Nah, Wigan got to where they are with millions of Dave Whelan's money, one rich bloke who can truly afford it buying us gives us the opportunity. The problem is that requires our landlords to step aside either by selling up or going bust. This! Everyone seems to have forgotten that, in identical fashion to Citeh, they've been absolutely bankrolled into the PL... Wigan's players are millionaires, the club get tonnes and tonnes of cash from TV and so on! Unlike Us v Liverpool/Everton, this wasn't David vs Goliath - this was very rich team vs very very very rich team... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ceskylatic Posted May 11, 2013 Share Posted May 11, 2013 Fair play to Wigan for winning the cup.Whelan has spent millions to keep a small town club in the Premier League for 8 years or however many years it is,but those millions he's spent is a drop in the ocean compared to most of the top flight clubs,it's all relative. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlossopLatic Posted May 12, 2013 Share Posted May 12, 2013 Agree with this, but I dislike them for reasons beyond a few keyboard warriors on rivals.net. Their fans at the infamous 3-1 Dowie defeat at the JCB and at the same fixture the season before were the most obnoxious, nasty bunch of thugs I've ever had the misfortune to come across. Horrible club. Only take satisfaction in City losing today - just a shame it's Wigan that represented the underdog. Well if its any consolation they may well in fact probably will be crying into their pies next week as they get relegated Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlossopLatic Posted May 12, 2013 Share Posted May 12, 2013 This! Everyone seems to have forgotten that, in identical fashion to Citeh, they've been absolutely bankrolled into the PL... Wigan's players are millionaires, the club get tonnes and tonnes of cash from TV and so on! Unlike Us v Liverpool/Everton, this wasn't David vs Goliath - this was very rich team vs very very very rich team... Their is no doubt that they would be nowhere near where they are now without Whealen and yes our achievement of beating Liverpool is a bigger individiual achievement than them beating City but its still a giant killing I had it down as nothing other than a City win and Wigan often lose their best players to mid ranking PL teams such as Everton who themselves often lose their best players to Man City. Part of the fun of football is the fact that a team can go from top to bottom who knows their maybe an Oldham fan starting up a business right now who may have an incredible 10-15 years and want to then put it into our football club and take us on a journey. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBigDog Posted May 12, 2013 Share Posted May 12, 2013 Well if its any consolation they may well in fact probably will be crying into their pies next week as they get relegated The reality is that if results go against them today and they lose at Arsenal on Tuesday, they will be relegated. Martinez will leave for Everton and one or two of his top players (Kone, McCarthy etc) will follow him out of the club. They will have had their moment of absolute glory and who would deny them that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudemedic Posted May 12, 2013 Share Posted May 12, 2013 (edited) If Wigan go down they become the first (and potentially the only) team to win the cup and get relegated in the same season. They then face the prospect of competing in the Europa League from the Championship, something Birmingham found very difficult. It might mean they spend another year and more in the Championship. #Karma Edited May 12, 2013 by rudemedic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Mikey Posted May 12, 2013 Share Posted May 12, 2013 This! Everyone seems to have forgotten that, in identical fashion to Citeh, they've been absolutely bankrolled into the PL... Wigan's players are millionaires, the club get tonnes and tonnes of cash from TV and so on! Unlike Us v Liverpool/Everton, this wasn't David vs Goliath - this was very rich team vs very very very rich team... Exactly this ^. The vast majority of PL armchair football fans in this country are unaware that Whelan bought them a way into the top flight, much as Jack Walker brought a title to Blackburn with cash. They buy the likkul Wigan image, when in fact they were the Man City of their status and time. Whelan has gone right down in my estimation in recent times with his defence of Macmanaman's horrendous tackle and his comments about Thatcher. Relegation this week, Martinez to Everton and a slide to oblivion will do me nicely. Come on you Gunners. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted May 12, 2013 Share Posted May 12, 2013 jose mourinho to become new manager , maybe? Pellegrini. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Mikey Posted May 12, 2013 Share Posted May 12, 2013 With regards to them being refereded to The Latics its only a nickname How many teams have the nickname the blues or the reds Do Chelsea, City, Birmingham or Everton fans have the same discussion as to who is the real bues? Or do West Ham, Burnley and Aston Villa fans have the same debtae as to who is the real clarets? Firstly, I don't think Hammers and Villans fans are bothered that Burnley are nicknamed the Clarets, nor any club that another also, unimaginatively, use the colour of their home shirt. The word Latics was a shortened form of Athletic used by Oldham fans, they copied / stole it; that is the difference. If they had the slightest bit of wit or imagination, they would call themselves the Pie Eaters, but they haven't so plagiarism ruled. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted May 12, 2013 Share Posted May 12, 2013 PL armchair football fans Hate Sky more than the fans that watch it. Also, I'd love to see another way of getting into the Prem other than being bankrolled. The whole thing is bent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lookers_Carl Posted May 12, 2013 Share Posted May 12, 2013 (edited) Happy for Wigan, always nice to see the underdog succeed. A few sick city fans although a lot of the city fans I know have been quite gracious in defeat (primarily the ones who remember going to Maine Road to watch their team get beat 2.1 by lowly Wycombe) Edited May 12, 2013 by Lookers_Carl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rosa Posted May 12, 2013 Share Posted May 12, 2013 Well done to Wigan, they were clearly the better team yesterday, but i'd echo what others have said about hating them long before they made it to the Premier League. Which, again, is quite an achievement, but they were very lucky with their timing - Whelan poured money into them, but it wouldn't be that competitive a budget now compared to the likes of Cardiff, and they got promoted to the Premier League just as the money there got completely stupid. Wigan stole our nickname, our colours and our club motto; City stole LaticsLee, who quite frankly they can keep. Yes it's petty. Football fans are. That's half the fun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaticsPete Posted May 12, 2013 Share Posted May 12, 2013 Hate Sky more than the fans that watch it. Also, I'd love to see another way of getting into the Prem other than being bankrolled. The whole thing is bent. Don't think Brighton are massively bankrolled are they? And they could well be in PL next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wehatecity Posted May 12, 2013 Share Posted May 12, 2013 It's a shame they couldn't celebrate yesterday's win last night Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singe Posted May 12, 2013 Share Posted May 12, 2013 Don't think Brighton are massively bankrolled are they? And they could well be in PL next year. Their chairman managed to get 95% of the £93m it cost for the stadium funded, probably in no small measure thanks to Amex (take note Simon, 95% funded!!). The chairman is a pretty successful poker player, and property developer, so whilst not bankrolling, he is not short of a bob or two. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Sinnott Posted May 12, 2013 Share Posted May 12, 2013 For me, it's been a super FA Cup this season. Ourselves, Luton and Wigan have wowed the nation in the competition. The only thing needed now is for the FA to get it back to being the final game of the season and stick it on at :censored:ing 3pm... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaticsPete Posted May 12, 2013 Share Posted May 12, 2013 Their chairman managed to get 95% of the £93m it cost for the stadium funded, probably in no small measure thanks to Amex (take note Simon, 95% funded!!). The chairman is a pretty successful poker player, and property developer, so whilst not bankrolling, he is not short of a bob or two. Most chairman aren't short of a few bob, but Rummy made the point that you need "bankrolling " to get into the top flight. Presumably to a massive extent. I think there'll still be chances for others to achieve it - they'll need resources but not necessarily the ultra bucks that some have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc-latics Posted May 12, 2013 Share Posted May 12, 2013 regardless of how much money Wigan have, surely they've earned it? A chairman who's stuck by their side and they've slowly moved themselves up the leagues. City got given a billionaire, and demanded success instantly by paying their way to the top of the Premier League. fair play Wigan, they've earned success and give hope to smaller teams. i'd struggle to find a Latics fan who isn't jealous of their last ten years, because I am. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted May 12, 2013 Share Posted May 12, 2013 Don't think Brighton are massively bankrolled are they? And they could well be in PL next year. I don't know Pete - not sure about their finances. I think we all agree that football these days requires outside-the-club investment and voluntary help (the IPS Holy Grail), however outright commercialism is something that's burrowed deep into the mainstream game and it's not something that can be easily removed from budgets. The lure of big money is too much for some - Cardiff and MK are the sell-outs, City and Chelsea are the buy-ins, and MUFC is Glazers IPO leaching meal ticket to name but a few. The whole upper echelon of the game :censored:ing reeks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ritchierich Posted May 12, 2013 Share Posted May 12, 2013 Great end to a great FA Cup competition Well done Wigan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Mikey Posted May 12, 2013 Share Posted May 12, 2013 Fantastic results today. Wigan have to win their last two games to have any chance of staying up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaticsPete Posted May 12, 2013 Share Posted May 12, 2013 I don't know Pete - not sure about their finances. I think we all agree that football these days requires outside-the-club investment and voluntary help (the IPS Holy Grail), however outright commercialism is something that's burrowed deep into the mainstream game and it's not something that can be easily removed from budgets. The lure of big money is too much for some - Cardiff and MK are the sell-outs, City and Chelsea are the buy-ins, and MUFC is Glazers IPO leaching meal ticket to name but a few. The whole upper echelon of the game :censored:ing reeks. Won't disagree with any of that. We are going to have to rely on the collapse of global capitalism - and that seems a way off still ( longer than when I was born when I was nearer the Russian Revolution than to my age now). But in the meantime I'll keep on hoping for the dream. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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