pseudonym Posted July 26, 2013 Share Posted July 26, 2013 In the Manchester Evening News LJ says that he has a smaller squad ( ie fewer players) than Dickov's last year. Has he? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diego_Sideburns Posted July 26, 2013 Share Posted July 26, 2013 Dickov used 35 players last season. At present LJ has 21 players and counting.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Wight Posted July 26, 2013 Share Posted July 26, 2013 Dickov used 35 players last season. At present LJ has 21 players and counting.... Will that include loans? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diego_Sideburns Posted July 26, 2013 Share Posted July 26, 2013 Will that include loans? Yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudemedic Posted July 26, 2013 Share Posted July 26, 2013 Dickov + TP + LJ used 35 players last season. At present LJ has 21 players and counting....FTFY By my maths Dickov didn't use that many due to players being added after he left and youngsters used late on. I think PD used 30 players but I'm unsure if he ever used some of our youngsters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midsblue Posted July 26, 2013 Share Posted July 26, 2013 Wouldn't size of squads on day one of season be a better comparison as opposed to number of players brought in during the season? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crusoe Posted July 26, 2013 Share Posted July 26, 2013 At the moment we have 25 first team players if you include Truelove and Rooney. And almost certainly a defender to come in on loan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midsblue Posted July 26, 2013 Share Posted July 26, 2013 Could someone list the 25 including their positions? Can't find on any of threads including the squad movement one (apologies if I've missed) and official site is still incomplete. Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pseudonym Posted July 26, 2013 Author Share Posted July 26, 2013 Wouldn't size of squads on day one of season be a better comparison as opposed to number of players brought in during the season? Yes which means to my reckoning using only full season loans he has a bigger squad? In Dayton Rooney Latvian MacDonald Schmeltz Rodgers Oxley Harris Clarke K smith (9) Out Bouzanis Cisak Mvoto Simpson Croft Furman M Smith (7) Taylor ( arguably) (8) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singe Posted July 26, 2013 Share Posted July 26, 2013 Yes which means to my reckoning using only full season loans he has a bigger squad? In Dayton Rooney Latvian MacDonald Schmeltz Rodgers Oxley Harris Clarke K smith (9) Out Bouzanis Cisak Mvoto Simpson Croft Furman M Smith (7) Taylor ( arguably) (8) What about Liam JAcob, that's 9 out for starters Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singe Posted July 26, 2013 Share Posted July 26, 2013 Yes which means to my reckoning using only full season loans he has a bigger squad? In Dayton Rooney Latvian MacDonald Schmeltz Rodgers Oxley Harris Clarke K smith (9) Out Bouzanis Cisak Mvoto Simpson Croft Furman M Smith (7) Taylor ( arguably) (8) Do you mean squad, or first team? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GravityGrave Posted July 26, 2013 Share Posted July 26, 2013 Connor Hughes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crusoe Posted July 26, 2013 Share Posted July 26, 2013 (edited) Could someone list the 25 including their positions? Can't find on any of threads including the squad movement one (apologies if I've missed) and official site is still incomplete. Cheers See: http://www.owtb.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=42409&p=626444 The latest list: 1. Mark Oxley from Hull City (season loan) - GK 2. Connor Brown (2014) - RB 3. Jonathan Grounds (2014) - LB 4. James Wesolowski (2014) - CM 5. 6. James Tarkowski (2014) - CB 7. Sidney Schmeltz previously with SC Veendam (2015) - W 8. Korey Smith from Norwich (2015) - CM 9. 10. Charlie MacDonald previously with Leyton Orient (2014 plus option) - F 11. Cristian Montano (2014) - W 12. David Mellor (2014 plus option) - CM/CB? 13. 14. Jonson Clarke-Harris from Peterborough (2014 plus option) - F 15. Carl Winchester (2014) - RB/CM 16. Cliff Byrne (2014) - CB/RB 17. Anton Rodgers previously with Brighton (2014 plus option) - CM 18. 19. James Dayton from Kilmarnock (2015) - W 20. Jose Baxter (2015) - F 21. Kirk Millar (2014) - F/W 22. Glenn Belezika (2014 plus option) - CB 23. 24. Edijs Joksts from FK Tukums 2000 (2014) - CB 25. Luke Simpson (2014) - G 26. 27. 28. Chris Sutherland (2014) - W 29. 30. Joe Cooper (2014) - RB/CB 31. Danny Gosset (2014) - CM 32. Jack Truelove (youth contract) - LB The 25th player is Rooney at number 9, assuming he signs. Edited July 26, 2013 by Crusoe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pseudonym Posted July 26, 2013 Author Share Posted July 26, 2013 See: http://www.owtb.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=42409&p=626444 The latest list: 1. Mark Oxley from Hull City (season loan) - GK 2. Connor Brown (2014) - RB 3. Jonathan Grounds (2014) - LB 4. James Wesolowski (2014) - CM 5. 6. James Tarkowski (2014) - CB 7. Sidney Schmeltz previously with SC Veendam (2015) - W 8. Korey Smith from Norwich (2015) - CM 9. 10. Charlie MacDonald previously with Leyton Orient (2014 plus option) - F 11. Cristian Montano (2014) - W 12. David Mellor (2014 plus option) - CM/CB? 13. 14. Jonson Clarke-Harris from Peterborough (2014 plus option) - F 15. Carl Winchester (2014) - RB/CM 16. Cliff Byrne (2014) - CB/RB 17. Anton Rodgers previously with Brighton (2014 plus option) - CM 18. 19. James Dayton from Kilmarnock (2015) - W 20. Jose Baxter (2015) - F 21. Kirk Millar (2014) - F/W 22. Glenn Belezika (2014 plus option) - CB 23. 24. Edijs Joksts from FK Tukums 2000 (2014) - CB 25. Luke Simpson (2014) - G 26. 27. 28. Chris Sutherland (2014) - W 29. 30. Joe Cooper (2014) - RB/CB 31. Danny Gosset (2014) - CM 32. Jack Truelove (youth contract) - LB The 25th player is Rooney at number 9, assuming he signs. Anybody able to give the equivalent list for 25 July last year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simpo Posted July 26, 2013 Share Posted July 26, 2013 Anybody able to give the equivalent list for 25 July last year 1 Alex Cisak 2 Connor Brown 3 Jonathan Grounds 4 James Wesolowski 5 Jean-Yves M'voto 6 James Tarkowski 7 Lee Croft (on loan from Derby County) 8 Dean Furman (captain) 10 Robbie Simpson 13 Dean Bouzanis 14 Matt Smith 19 Dan Taylor 20 Youssouf M'Changama 21 Kirk Millar 24 Connor Hughes 25 Liam Jacob 26 Carl Winchester 27 Glenn Belezika 28 Paul Gerrard (player-coach) 29 David Mellor 33 Luke Simpson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryBosch Posted July 26, 2013 Share Posted July 26, 2013 In the Manchester Evening News LJ says that he has a smaller squad ( ie fewer players) than Dickov's last year. Has he? Cisak Byrne Grounds Tarkowski M'Voto M'Changama Wesolowski Furman Croft Simpson Slew was the starting line up against Wednesday last season. Montano came in for Wesolowski against MK Dons - we didn't even have another central midfielder to replace him. Brown, Smith, Bouzanis, Winchester, Millar, Hughes and Taylor were the subs. Stronger starting line up and a stronger bench now in my opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garcon Posted July 26, 2013 Share Posted July 26, 2013 I thought we were doing away with cryptic thread titles? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pseudonym Posted July 26, 2013 Author Share Posted July 26, 2013 1 Alex Cisak 2 Connor Brown 3 Jonathan Grounds 4 James Wesolowski 5 Jean-Yves M'voto 6 James Tarkowski 7 Lee Croft (on loan from Derby County) 8 Dean Furman (captain) 10 Robbie Simpson 13 Dean Bouzanis 14 Matt Smith 19 Dan Taylor 20 Youssouf M'Changama 21 Kirk Millar 24 Connor Hughes 25 Liam Jacob 26 Carl Winchester 27 Glenn Belezika 28 Paul Gerrard (player-coach) 29 David Mellor 33 Luke Simpson That seems to indicate then that LJ has a squad which about 20% bigger than the one available to Dickov at the same time last year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryBosch Posted July 26, 2013 Share Posted July 26, 2013 That seems to indicate then that LJ has a squad which about 20% bigger than the one available to Dickov at the same time last year I'll bet Dickov didn't include most of the kids when he discussed his "squad" with SC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pseudonym Posted July 26, 2013 Author Share Posted July 26, 2013 I'll bet Dickov didn't include most of the kids when he discussed his "squad" with SC Which makes LJ ' s assertion that he has a smaller squad even more incongruous Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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singe Posted July 26, 2013 Share Posted July 26, 2013 That seems to indicate then that LJ has a squad which about 20% bigger than the one available to Dickov at the same time last year No, it shows how slow Dickov was in getting his squad together. And possibly why he got every Tom, Dick and Harry youngster later on. So it stands to reason he has learned from his mistakes,..er hang on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pseudonym Posted July 26, 2013 Author Share Posted July 26, 2013 No, it shows how slow Dickov was in getting his squad together. And possibly why he got every Tom, Dick and Harry youngster later on. So it stands to reason he has learned from his mistakes,..er hang on. Absolutely but it also shows that L J 's statement in the MEN is factually incorrect and misleading Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Villains Posted July 26, 2013 Share Posted July 26, 2013 Kids who are reading the thread; football never used to be like this, we used to go to the match and get the Pink Final after. If we won great, if we lost, the dog got a kicking. All forgotten about on Sunday morning as you trawl through Saturdays results and tables over bacon and eggs. I blame Jimmy Hill and Championship Manager. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maddog Posted July 26, 2013 Share Posted July 26, 2013 Which makes LJ ' s assertion that he has a smaller squad even more incongruous Surely it does the exact opposite? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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