JoeP Posted January 6, 2014 Share Posted January 6, 2014 Moronic? That's a bit strong. I think I'm going to stick by it.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaticsPete Posted January 6, 2014 Share Posted January 6, 2014 From one of the Liverpool forums The big lad at the back for Oldham (no. 6) was fantastic all day on and off the ball he comes out with the most credit of the day for me. That is apart from the Oldham fans. They were brilliant barring a few nutters and deserved their applause from me on the way out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnthonyOAFC Posted January 6, 2014 Share Posted January 6, 2014 http://www.oldham-chronicle.co.uk/news-features/10/oldham-athletic-news/84039/tarkowski-staying-put-for-now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huangjoe Posted January 6, 2014 Share Posted January 6, 2014 He has tweeted that he was waving to his family in the crowd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nzlatic Posted January 6, 2014 Share Posted January 6, 2014 Aye, certainly down in the corner I was in. Block 128 I think. I was in that block and heard it. Bizarre. A few getting their phones out for pics of him taking a corner too. In fact there were more people standing in that block when gerrard was taking a corner than there were when we had one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeroyboy Posted January 6, 2014 Share Posted January 6, 2014 Tarkowski's contract expires June 2015, leaving 18 months remaining and 12 months from this June. If he maintains his progress he will be worth more come May. I can't recall a young defender making such rapid progress in his game as Tarkowski has done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deyres42 Posted January 6, 2014 Share Posted January 6, 2014 Tarkowski's contract expires June 2015, leaving 18 months remaining and 12 months from this June. If he maintains his progress he will be worth more come May. What's your logic for thinking that? Cos I can't get my head round it to be honest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlayItLivo Posted January 6, 2014 Share Posted January 6, 2014 I would understand so very slightly had he done anything for England, barring a brilliant performance 13 years ago against Germany and a goal against the U.S.A at the world cup. Now, Frank Lampard on the other hand. I'd have been bowing had it been him on the field. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeroyboy Posted January 6, 2014 Share Posted January 6, 2014 Apologies deyres 42 for my quote button not working. My logic is based on the fact that he has been improving rapidly and will continue to do so, IMO. It is fair to say more than 1 club will be interested in him now and if he continues his development it will be more than 3 clubs in 4months time. I fail to see a better more sought after player being worth less with over 12months left on his contract than now. His development may well regress and therefore he will create less interest and he will be worth less but that is not my opinion. I have no way of accurately valuing him, now, in 6months, 12months or 18months and neither have you. That's my logic anyway, purely from a business point of view. What's yours? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave_ragg1984 Posted January 6, 2014 Share Posted January 6, 2014 I would understand so very slightly had he done anything for England, barring a brilliant performance 13 years ago against Germany and a goal against the U.S.A at the world cup. Now, Frank Lampard on the other hand. I'd have been bowing had it been him on the field. He was brilliant at Euro 2012. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deyres42 Posted January 6, 2014 Share Posted January 6, 2014 (edited) Apologies deyres 42 for my quote button not working. My logic is based on the fact that he has been improving rapidly and will continue to do so, IMO. It is fair to say more than 1 club will be interested in him now and if he continues his development it will be more than 3 clubs in 4months time. I fail to see a better more sought after player being worth less with over 12months left on his contract than now. His development may well regress and therefore he will create less interest and he will be worth less but that is not my opinion. I have no way of accurately valuing him, now, in 6months, 12months or 18months and neither have you. That's my logic anyway, purely from a business point of view. What's yours? My logic is that the only thing he will be in the summer is six months nearer to the end of his contract. Let's be honest, there's more chance of Dave Penney being given the freedom of Oldham than him signing a new one so the clock is ticking on his time here. So for me the best thing to do would be to try and cash in on him now while his profile is on the rise, unlikely but not impossible that over the next six months his form falls off a cliff or he gets a bad injury and then he's not worth a carrot to us. Edited January 6, 2014 by deyres42 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudemedic Posted January 6, 2014 Share Posted January 6, 2014 My logic is that the only thing he will be in the summer is six months nearer to the end of his contract. Let's be honest, there's more chance of Dave Penney being given the freedom of Oldham than him signing a new one so the clock is ticking on his time here. So for me the best thing to do would be to try and cash in on him now while his profile is on the rise, unlikely but not impossible that over the next six months his form falls off a cliff or he gets a bad injury and then he's not worth a carrot to us. Except like I said previously, if he leaves at the end of his contract we are entitled to compensation, even if he goes to Scotland. It is feasible that we will get more money then than we will now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deyres42 Posted January 6, 2014 Share Posted January 6, 2014 Except like I said previously, if he leaves at the end of his contract we are entitled to compensation, even if he goes to Scotland. It is feasible that we will get more money then than we will now. Aye, I know we would be compensated at the end of his deal and it's all hypothetical but the club aren't just going to let him run his contract down and run the risk of not getting the fee that they feel he is worth - if somebody comes in with a reasonable bid for him in this window or the next then he'll be away. And to be fair if he is still here in 18 months then his progress will probably have stagnated anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4froale Posted January 6, 2014 Share Posted January 6, 2014 I would understand so very slightly had he done anything for England, barring a brilliant performance 13 years ago against Germany and a goal against the U.S.A at the world cup. Now, Frank Lampard on the other hand. I'd have been bowing had it been him on the field. One of the best English centre midfielders of the last 20 years Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudemedic Posted January 6, 2014 Share Posted January 6, 2014 Aye, I know we would be compensated at the end of his deal and it's all hypothetical but the club aren't just going to let him run his contract down and run the risk of not getting the fee that they feel he is worth - if somebody comes in with a reasonable bid for him in this window or the next then he'll be away. And to be fair if he is still here in 18 months then his progress will probably have stagnated anyway. Yes but it does mean that if he progresses, especially at the rate he has been, that he will be worth more in June than he is now, despite him being 6 months closer to the end of his contract, which was the point I was trying to make against your theory. If the club get a good offer for him this window, he will be off anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JA11K Posted January 6, 2014 Share Posted January 6, 2014 Agreed. I clapped him as he was subbed and got a load of :censored: from a guy behind. He's a world class player and the captain of our national team. Why shouldn't I show my appreciation? However, according to Neanderthal Man behind he's just a dirty scouse bastard and I should support my own team ha ha. Brilliant. I also clapped him off, no one else around me did though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevie_J Posted January 6, 2014 Share Posted January 6, 2014 Aye, I know we would be compensated at the end of his deal and it's all hypothetical but the club aren't just going to let him run his contract down and run the risk of not getting the fee that they feel he is worth - if somebody comes in with a reasonable bid for him in this window or the next then he'll be away. And to be fair if he is still here in 18 months then his progress will probably have stagnated anyway. He might see out this window but there's not a chance he'll be a Latics player next season. Not a chance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeroyboy Posted January 6, 2014 Share Posted January 6, 2014 While we are all allowed our different and valid opinions on if or when Tarkowski goes we will never know which strategy would have been best. If he goes 'today' we will never know how much he would have fetched next week, next summer or the summer after. Or any combination thereof. The ball is in Corney's court and he has much more data than any of us lot put together. There would also need to be agreement with Tarkowski. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlayItLivo Posted January 6, 2014 Share Posted January 6, 2014 One of the best English centre midfielders of the last 20 years After Scholes and Lampard, absolutely. Quality player and a brilliant captain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youngen Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 Am I the only one who thinks Liverpool are the likely club to sign him, and given Rodgers admiration for us, that he will be loaned back until the summer? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAC0AFC Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 Am I the only one who thinks Liverpool are the likely club to sign him, and given Rodgers admiration for us, that he will be loaned back until the summer? i think this, i hope this, whether this will happen is another question! Rodgers asked James to train with them 2-3 times a week to which James didn't take up the offer! bizzare that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryBosch Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 i think this, i hope this, whether this will happen is another question! Rodgers asked James to train with them 2-3 times a week to which James didn't take up the offer! bizzare that In the unlikely event this is true, maybe as a United fan he hates them with a passion? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monty Burns Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 In the unlikely event this is true, maybe as a United fan he hates them with a passion? Probably. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4froale Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 surely he wouldn't be that stupid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monty Burns Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 surely he wouldn't be that stupid Probably not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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