brierleys555 Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 voted in but if he cant pick a consistent team after 15 games next season it will be LJ out for me. also if he plays people out of position instead of players whos position it actually is Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yarddog73 Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 (edited) Although im sure he will of studied them he could do worse than follow alex fergusons advice within his 7 leadership secrets is this little nugget. The first thought for 99% of new managers is to make sure they win - to survive. They bring experiance in, often from previous clubs, but I think its important to build a structure for a football club not just a football team. You need a foundation. Edited March 13, 2014 by yarddog73 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BJBlue Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 I think we have this discussion in earnest in 12 months time if nothing has changed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Sinnott Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 (edited) In just, but some serious questions need asking about whether or not he has a clue what he's doing or if he is, in fact, a very good salesman... Edited March 13, 2014 by Lee Sinnott Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longtimeblue Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 In because there isn't a realistic alternative. Gets until Christmas for me (irrespective of the division). The contract extension was madness though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
opinions4u Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 Time to prove he can turn it round. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pk200 Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 (edited) LJ could be a rich young man ,perhaps he has invested some of it in Latics . Edited March 13, 2014 by pk200 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nohairdontcare Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 I voted in - though this season has gone from waiting to gel, to staring at disaster - just because I can't think of a better realistic alternative. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deyres42 Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 There's plenty of affordable alternatives, either out of work or in the lower leagues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Latics_Fanatic Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 There's plenty of affordable alternatives, either out of work or in the lower leagues. Name them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
opinions4u Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 Name them. It's a list that could go on forever. John Gregory and Brian Little were mentioned from a long list of applicants by Corney. Jim Gannon was selling cars last I heard. Sammy McIlroy had some joy in the lower leagues. Kuqi's got a job in Finland. Mike Flynn is doing ok in non-League. Maybe Andy Ritchie would have another crack at it. Has Martin Allen found work yet? Wasn't Scholes doing his coaching badges? Now I can build a case against all of these. But then a 32 year old rookie on a losing streak isn't an obvious catch. The point is there's a long list of retired players, failed managers, unlucky managers, assistant managers and wannabes out there who would and probably could do the job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deyres42 Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 Name them. Gary Rowett, Nigel Worthington, Justin Edinburgh, Mark Yates all done good jobs at their clubs. Chris Wilder would have been a good shout but recently moved. Don't really follow non league but Nicky Law must be doing some job to have Alfreton where they are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stargazer Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 He got rid of Baxter within months of being here , I can't think of a worse sale in all my years as a fan , no wonder the club is in the mess it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryBosch Posted March 13, 2014 Author Share Posted March 13, 2014 Sean O'Driscoll, Richard Money Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
opinions4u Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 Sean O'Driscoll, Richard Money Dickie Dosh used to have a really good record on limited resources. Style of play not so attractive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryBosch Posted March 13, 2014 Author Share Posted March 13, 2014 Dickie Dosh used to have a really good record on limited resources. Style of play not so attractive. Always high scoring teams. Were they direct? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
opinions4u Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 (edited) Always high scoring teams. Were they direct? I'd be lying if I said I'd watched his teams dozens of times. But what I recall was a side that got the ball forward quickly and took chances. Cambridge fans were whining about style of play when they were top of the Conference last Autumn. Edited March 13, 2014 by opinions4u Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yarddog73 Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 with 131 in favour and only 9 against it appears the manager still has the fans on his side. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boundaryblue80 Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 In asking whether it's time for any manager to go, I ask the question "has the manager hit the ceiling of his ability?" I have only ever answered "yes" and wanted 1 manager to leave. At present, I wouldn't say he has but like others have said, for me he's not far from it. There are some huge things that worry me. Like, I think he can spot a player worth bringing in (a gamble/potential) but I don't think he has the ability to coach/bring them on whatsoever. I also think we are one of the most disorganised teams I've ever seen. At least in other managers, you knew what they were trying to do. Whether it was sideways and backwards. We'd have some shape. We'd not be completely overrun in midfield game after game. We'd not have players running about aimlessly...I keep seeing Worrall popping up at LB at times and thinking WTF?!?! But then the LB position is a desperate problem at present. And Worrall, well, I've not been impressed by him at all so far. The things going for LJ though is that truthfully, I thought this season would be a disaster. It hasn't been yet, so he deserves some credit for that. However, there were some things at the end of last season that alarmed me. Bury away especially. The first half was utterly abject in such a vital game. The team weren't up for it at all. And how many times have we seen that since this season? But so far, we've kept our heads above water. Just. Now we need to swim away from this danger. I do support the managers more than most simply because of the :censored: sandwich our leader feeds him. But being 12mths into the job, having such constraints against him or the stability at all costs arguments can't wash if a manager stinks out the place. LJ hasn't so far. But there's a smell in the wardrobe brewing. He came in at this point last season with a similar job to do...back then though, he had the fresh air of new manager syndrome and the gift of the gabb. This time, it's a very different scenario and it will make or break him. If he succeeds, he will learn a hell of a lot. I'm keeping my fingers crossed that happens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pukka Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 (edited) "Style of play not so attractive." As opposed to what we have watched recently?!!! Edited March 14, 2014 by pukka Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChaddySmoker Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 In asking whether it's time for any manager to go, I ask the question "has the manager hit the ceiling of his ability?" I have only ever answered "yes" and wanted 1 manager to leave. At present, I wouldn't say he has but like others have said, for me he's not far from it. There are some huge things that worry me. Like, I think he can spot a player worth bringing in (a gamble/potential) but I don't think he has the ability to coach/bring them on whatsoever. I also think we are one of the most disorganised teams I've ever seen. At least in other managers, you knew what they were trying to do. Whether it was sideways and backwards. We'd have some shape. We'd not be completely overrun in midfield game after game. We'd not have players running about aimlessly...I keep seeing Worrall popping up at LB at times and thinking WTF?!?! But then the LB position is a desperate problem at present. And Worrall, well, I've not been impressed by him at all so far. The things going for LJ though is that truthfully, I thought this season would be a disaster. It hasn't been yet, so he deserves some credit for that. However, there were some things at the end of last season that alarmed me. Bury away especially. The first half was utterly abject in such a vital game. The team weren't up for it at all. And how many times have we seen that since this season? But so far, we've kept our heads above water. Just. Now we need to swim away from this danger. I do support the managers more than most simply because of the :censored: sandwich our leader feeds him. But being 12mths into the job, having such constraints against him or the stability at all costs arguments can't wash if a manager stinks out the place. LJ hasn't so far. But there's a smell in the wardrobe brewing. He came in at this point last season with a similar job to do...back then though, he had the fresh air of new manager syndrome and the gift of the gabb. This time, it's a very different scenario and it will make or break him. If he succeeds, he will learn a hell of a lot. I'm keeping my fingers crossed that happens. Get back to your own site! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OLDHAMADE Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 I'm sticking with and fully behind our manager what ever happens, Give the guy a few years to prove what he can do rather than throw it all in at the first sign of difficulty. Latics aren't blessed with an open cheque book and Lee Johnson's running the side on fresh air in reality with only the Diehard fans cash bolstering the coffers at Home games. A win at Crewe would be the perfect medicine and should that happen I can't see us going down, Stick with him and KTF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boundaryblue80 Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 Get back to your own site! Haha...I even mentioned your name the other day on there! Saying it was a shame you weren't about so we could have last Mays discussion about Wes and Smith! Seems I was right after all...as a central pairing, not good enough! Not even close to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChaddySmoker Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 Haha...I even mentioned your name the other day on there! Saying it was a shame you weren't about so we could have last Mays discussion about Wes and Smith! Seems I was right after all...as a central pairing, not good enough! Not even close to it. Our discussion was that you said that they were not a good enough pairing and I replied that I thought Smith was excellent but needed pairing with someone more attacking than Wes. You never quite quoted me correctly as you seemed to think that in later discussions I had defended Wes, never in a month of Sundays, as some of the Wes 'lovers' on here will testify. Smith I did rate and always have rated but he is held back by not having a mobile attacking midfielder with him. Mind you on Tuesday night Smith was shocking, so maybe you were right after all! KTF & Vote for LJ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryBosch Posted March 14, 2014 Author Share Posted March 14, 2014 I'm sticking with and fully behind our manager what ever happens, Give the guy a few years to prove what he can do rather than throw it all in at the first sign of difficulty. Latics aren't blessed with an open cheque book and Lee Johnson's running the side on fresh air in reality with only the Diehard fans cash bolstering the coffers at Home games. I agree with the first part but you can't sign and use 40 players with "fresh air". I imagine he wouldn't want you making excuses for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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