HarryBosch Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 Even on a micro level it makes you a massive bellend. Well done. I can only aspire to be as big a bellend as somebody who puts the result of a poll on an Internet messageboard as more representative than bums on seats. Albeit on a "micro level". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave_ragg1984 Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 and thats why attendences have doubled they have an unused transfer budget of £100 million + are still competing in the champions league year on year and have one of the best facilities in the world ask any arsenal fan where they would rather be and I would say 95% + would choose the emeriates your always going to get some stuck in the dark ages dinos its just that they appear to be the majority at bp. Ask any Arsenal fan where they would be - At the Emirates with an unused transfer budget winning nothing, or back at Highbury winning stuff. But anyway, well done. You've compared the possibility of Latics fans moving from one :censored:e 20 odd year old stand with no facilities to another, with one of the biggest clubs in the country moving stadium. It really is dead similar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yarddog73 Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 I could of used dozens of clubs who have moved grounds or updated what they have got of course we cant compare ourselves with arsenal but a move to a new ground could of helped our club kick on, arsenal inability to win trophies id down to the manager wanting to do things the right way im not going to question that, bach to our own situation I actually didnt say move from the chaddy to the main I said a move to the rre with away fans in the chaddy as for knocking the main stand down it should of happened 20 years ago the sooner it goes the better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudemedic Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 I was only being a tosser on a micro level. Isn't that Max Clifford's alleged problem? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keep_the_faith Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 Am I right in thinking that season tickets are slightly more in chaddy/mainstand? If so I'll await the club demanding extra money off those moved from the RRE.. It's the way its going. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave_ragg1984 Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 I could of used dozens of clubs who have moved grounds or updated what they have got of course we cant compare ourselves with arsenal but a move to a new ground could of helped our club kick on, arsenal inability to win trophies id down to the manager wanting to do things the right way im not going to question that, bach to our own situation I actually didnt say move from the chaddy to the main I said a move to the rre with away fans in the chaddy as for knocking the main stand down it should of happened 20 years ago the sooner it goes the better. But we aren't talking about Latics moving ground or updating ground. Just the possibility of us moving from one 20 year old stand with no "facilities" to another 20 year old stand with no "facilities". Which is nothing like Arsenal, or any of the dozens of other clubs you could have used who have built a new ground or updated their old one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankly Mr Shankly Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 I'm fine with moving if it saves the club money. I'll tell you what'll save money. A lot more dollar than closing a stand to save on a bit of loose change and give a steward or two a day off. And thats turning the floodlights off ten minutes after a match instead of 3 hours later. Always bemuses me that one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yarddog73 Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 The rre is a better stand in my opinion and is on the balance of it the better of 3 :censored: options, think your looking too much into my comparison with arsenal but doesnt change the fact that the chaddy is a shed, no beer, restricted view in places and is generally a depressing place to view a football match from and the atmosphere reflects that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave_ragg1984 Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 The rre is a better stand in my opinion and is on the balance of it the better of 3 :censored: options, think your looking too much into my comparison with arsenal but doesnt change the fact that the chaddy is a shed, no beer, restricted view in places and is generally a depressing place to view a football match from and the atmosphere reflects that. That's your view, but not the view of the people who go in there who clearly prefer it to the other 2 stands which they chose not to go in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryBosch Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 (edited) The rre is a better stand in my opinion and is on the balance of it the better of 3 :censored: options.McDonalds is better than KFC and Nando's in my opinion but I wouldn't feed any of the 3 to a dog if I had one. Luckily for the imaginary dog he wouldn't have a lifetime of allegiance to any of the said fast food establishments. Eating somewhere decent isn't an option, we may aswell close one of the so called restaurants. (I've been on the lash since 4 and fully realise this is a terrible analogy) Edited March 17, 2014 by HarryBosch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave_ragg1984 Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 McDonalds is better than KFC and Nando's in my opinion but I wouldn't feed any of the 3 to a dog if I had one. Luckily for the imaginary dog he wouldn't have a lifetime of allegiance to any of the said fast food establishments. Eating somewhere decent isn't an option, we may aswell close one of the so called restaurants. (I've been on the lash since 4 and fully realise this is a terrible analogy) You wouldn't feed it Nandos? But what about the "facilities" in there? You can buy beer in there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryBosch Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 You wouldn't feed it Nandos? But what about the "facilities" in there? You can buy beer in there. I'd reluctantly go in Nando's until McDonalds started serving beer. Or until they built a fourth restaurant where you could watch from the side, where you could get beer and blowjobs, Bundesliga style. Then I'd go in there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc21 Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 This topic has gone well off course,moving ground,KFC,macds ect,Fact is the club know which is our best stand,but want to move us into a :censored:ing :censored: tip the chaddyend,instead of putting people's backs up,leave us in the rre,improve matters on the pitch,then you might get some noise,this club is mind numbing at times Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OAFC_Ryan Posted March 17, 2014 Author Share Posted March 17, 2014 This topic has gone well off course,moving ground,KFC,macds ect,Fact is the club know which is our best stand,but want to move us into a :censored:ing :censored: tip the chaddyend,instead of putting people's backs up,leave us in the rre,improve matters on the pitch,then you might get some noise,this club is mind numbing at times IF the 'acoustics' are so good why can I never hear the RRE? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryBosch Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 This topic has gone well off course,moving ground,KFC,macds ect,Fact is the club know which is our best stand,but want to move us into a :censored:ing :censored: tip the chaddyend,instead of putting people's backs up,leave us in the rre,improve matters on the pitch,then you might get some noise,this club is mind numbing at times But for some of us who got dragged in the Chaddy at age 13 by older lads on our estate it will always be the home end...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryBosch Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 IF the 'acoustics' are so good why can I never hear the RRE? The acoustics were great all around the ground (apart from the main stand) when the team seemed to give a :censored: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snookmeister Posted March 18, 2014 Share Posted March 18, 2014 In terms of simply improving the atmosphere, combining two stands worth of fans into one will always see improvements. However a lot of fans would like to see this one stand be the RRE. I think it's worth another trial. As an old sales manager of mine often said, "if you always do what you've always done, you'll always get what always got". To be fair, he was a complete :censored: generally, but I'll give him this one thing... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc21 Posted March 18, 2014 Share Posted March 18, 2014 But for some of us who got dragged in the Chaddy at age 13 by older lads on our estate it will always be the home end......true bud,but after the early nineties,things change,an I jumped at the chance when they let home fans in the rre,better view etc.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc21 Posted March 18, 2014 Share Posted March 18, 2014 IF the 'acoustics' are so good why can I never hear the RRE? its the same as the Chaddy no one goes anymore,but on it's day, Everton in the cup,you can not say you can't hear the rre!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted March 18, 2014 Share Posted March 18, 2014 Actually, just had a look at that poll. 158 votes. The home support against Rotherham was ridiculously low, something like 2600 home fans? So that vote would represent slighlty over 6% of that gate. Then factor in the amount of people who voted who don't even go to games, that would drop further. I don't think the views of 6% of fans (and that is being very generous) represents what the fans want. Democracy isn't as good when it kicks you up the arse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
opinions4u Posted March 18, 2014 Share Posted March 18, 2014 A couple of musings from me. 1. The RRE has a better camber and no pillars. From a purely viewing perspective it's the best stand we have. 2. If the club wanted to serve beer in the Chaddy they could apply for a licence that would almost certainly be granted. 3. While an owtb poll could be rigged, and the owtb user base may not be wholly representative of the match day attendee, I doubt very much that the poll has been rigged and I can't think of a better representative sample of Latics fans than this place (other than asking people the question as they enter the ground). 4. UK electoral opinion polls tend to ask the views of 1,000 people out of 50 million voters. And they are usually accurate to within 5%. The poll on here attracted around 5% of the matchday home crowd so could be reasonably argued to be substantial enough. It's certainly 2,500 times "stronger" than a pre-election poll when based on sample size alone. 5. Any "disturbance" of the fan base runs the risk of alienating fans unless well managed. The club isn't good at this sort of thing and has a recent history of pissing people off to the point that rather than move stand they'd rather just not bother. 6. The police and the council, as licensing authority, have a big say in who can sit where. So away fans in the Chaddy may not be a starter anyway. 7. The new stand makes changes happening very likely. I hope the club kept that list of Lookers Stand refugees and fulfils the promises made ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted March 18, 2014 Share Posted March 18, 2014 The Crawley game should have been a reduced price ticket match, not a reduced attendance match Oh, but twitter will disappear under a chavalanche of "JOKE CLUB!!!111!" tweets and it'll be the moan-du-jour for those who have already paid for a season ticket. Selfish fans are ruining the club as much as the misdirection of the board room. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4froale Posted March 18, 2014 Share Posted March 18, 2014 IF the 'acoustics' are so good why can I never hear the RRE? so you couldn't hear the 3000 Preston two weeks ago? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave_ragg1984 Posted March 18, 2014 Share Posted March 18, 2014 Selfish fans are ruining the club as much as the misdirection of the board room. It's really ace being a Latics fan who goes to games. Not only do you pay good money to watch absolute crap week in week out, it's actually your fault they are crap as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SavageTheBeast Posted March 18, 2014 Share Posted March 18, 2014 Even when the chaddy is packed you can't hear it. Take Liverpool and Everton could not hear one thing from it. The chaddy is a mess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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