another fan Posted April 12, 2014 Share Posted April 12, 2014 I know that I lead a sheltered life but why all the delayed kick off times today? What have iI missed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlayItLivo Posted April 12, 2014 Share Posted April 12, 2014 (edited) Mark of respect for Hillsborough. Edited April 12, 2014 by PlayItLivo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
another fan Posted April 12, 2014 Author Share Posted April 12, 2014 Mark of respect for Hillsborough. Many thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted April 12, 2014 Share Posted April 12, 2014 Special treatment. 10 pages. Min. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senor_Coconut Posted April 12, 2014 Share Posted April 12, 2014 You know someone on the radio the other day said Liverpool deserve to win the League because of Hillsborough Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pure Elvis 1977 Posted April 12, 2014 Share Posted April 12, 2014 Liverpool wil deserve to win the league if they are good enough to get more points than their rivals or if the referees keep giving them penalties not because of a tragedy that happened 25 years ago... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keep_the_faith Posted April 12, 2014 Share Posted April 12, 2014 Glad im not the only one bored of self pity city Que a few downboats, yawn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ceskylatic Posted April 12, 2014 Share Posted April 12, 2014 I pray for Chelsea to win the league this year,as I work in Liverpool and have to listen to all them giddy red pricks constantly boring me with their "Dare to dream" bull:censored:.Will never hear the end of it if they win it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
opinions4u Posted April 12, 2014 Share Posted April 12, 2014 I still think this is more about the treatment of football fans than the self-pity of Scousers. Therefore, on balance, it was the right thing to do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laticfanatic1 Posted April 12, 2014 Share Posted April 12, 2014 The most hard done too team in the world, can't stand the scouse b*stards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pinevillawill Posted April 13, 2014 Share Posted April 13, 2014 We should never forget the awful events of 15 April 1989. However. Yesterday was too much. Please can we finally move on now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc0000 Posted April 13, 2014 Share Posted April 13, 2014 We should never forget the awful events of 15 April 1989. However. Yesterday was too much. Please can we finally move on now? Maybe when people are in prison and we have had an inquiry that wasn't a white wash.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
underdog Posted April 13, 2014 Share Posted April 13, 2014 The most hard done too team in the world, can't stand the scouse b*stards On the pitch maybe but costing fans lives just going to watch a game, well that's harsh.....it so well could have been any team in that era and I remember I couple of near misses with latics too. If it wasn't the injustice then it might not be so much in the public eye, ibrox, Bradford, heysel and not so well publicised yet should not be forgotten. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
opinions4u Posted April 13, 2014 Share Posted April 13, 2014 (edited) Yesterday was too much. Please can we finally move on now? I'm sure they would love to be able to. Edited April 13, 2014 by opinions4u Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevie_J Posted April 13, 2014 Share Posted April 13, 2014 We should never forget the awful events of 15 April 1989. However. Yesterday was too much. Please can we finally move on now? Don't really see how it's too much. Kicking off seven minutes late, after a minute's silence is no great inconvenience to anybody. If the disaster hadn't happened that day, might our semi-final against Man Utd have been at Hillsborough the following year? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pukka Posted April 13, 2014 Share Posted April 13, 2014 96 fans went teo a game, didnt come back and had the establishment cover it up. Would you expect the scousers to say "oh, its alright, as you were"?!?!! If it had've been fans killing fans, no cover up, no scandal, then there would be justification in saying they have gone over the top. But the scandal exists. I dont agree with many minutes silence as football / sport shouldn't take it upon itself to do it. I disagree with one for Rememberance Day. Its not the time or place for me. No more so than if a game of football broke out at the cenetaph on rememberance sunday. Wrong time, wrong place. That is a personal opinion, most dont agree with. Yesterday for me however was justified and right, as it was a football tragedy... I also hope next years last day of the season has 30 years since the Bradford fire. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted April 13, 2014 Share Posted April 13, 2014 Glad im not the only one bored of self pity city Que a few downboats, yawn No I completely agree, all of us as football fans will support them in their endeavours for justice - however, Bradford? Burden? Ibrox? Dare I say it - Heysel? What about remembering them? I remember Heysel and Liverpool blamed Chelsea. Justice for the 39. They won't want you to remember that one though.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Mikey Posted April 13, 2014 Share Posted April 13, 2014 I'm sure they would love to be able to. I don't think anybody is suggesting that the families, or others directly involved, move on. But maybe the rest of us might be allowed to. People who covered up errors on the day should be brought to book, that does not mean we have to indulge a group of people, who appear to wallow in self pity, by moving kick off times and having minutes of silence at every given opportunity. By all means do that at Anfield and Hillsborough, (and I'm sure Everton wouldn't want to miss out) but leave me out of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yarddog73 Posted April 13, 2014 Share Posted April 13, 2014 Remembrance Sunday and the events around it are controlled by the departure for sport media and culture which might explain the minute silence at football games, I think we should recognise those who have fallen whilst serving our country and as an ex serviceman its something I feel quite strongly about, I know its not the time and the place for some but the sacrifice of those brave men and women should never be forgotten. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uppermill Latics Posted April 13, 2014 Share Posted April 13, 2014 Find it bizarre how some like to play tragedies off against each other. Each one has its own significance, cause and ramifications. Thanks heavens there hasn't been one involving our fans and last week's match at Bradford should bring it home to people that we are one football family. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghostofcecere Posted April 13, 2014 Share Posted April 13, 2014 Don't get me wrong the Hillsborough disaster was a terrible terrible day for football, and the white wash by the establishment a total and utter disgrace. But I can't help thinking it's justice when it suits for Liverpool fans. They caused Heysel. And yet (as far as I'm aware) not a single Liverpool supporter has come forward to accept any sort of responsibility for that tragedy. If it's to be justice for the 96, they need to look close to home for justice for the 39 too! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitey1980 Posted April 13, 2014 Share Posted April 13, 2014 Don't get me wrong the Hillsborough disaster was a terrible terrible day for football, and the white wash by the establishment a total and utter disgrace. But I can't help thinking it's justice when it suits for Liverpool fans. They caused Heysel. And yet (as far as I'm aware) not a single Liverpool supporter has come forward to accept any sort of responsibility for that tragedy. If it's to be justice for the 96, they need to look close to home for justice for the 39 too! Totally agree with this. I don't have a problem with the weekends focus, and Hillsborough was a watershed disaster for English football that we have yet to fully emerge from..... But I can't help but sympathise with those Juve fans in their attitudes towards Liverpool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikejh45 Posted April 13, 2014 Share Posted April 13, 2014 Regarding Heysel, I believe some Liverpool fans were prosecuted but I agree that if we commemorate one then we should do all. However, regarding Hillsborough, there seems to be an impetus to blame the police and leave the reds blame free when there were a number without tickets or with forged tickets who took advantage of the gates being opened. While I accept that it was a major cockup by the police, I still feel that the reds still need to look at themselves if they rocked up without a ticket or with a forgery. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
opinions4u Posted April 13, 2014 Share Posted April 13, 2014 (edited) However, regarding Hillsborough, there seems to be an impetus to blame the police and leave the reds blame free when there were a number without tickets or with forged tickets who took advantage of the gates being opened. While I accept that it was a major cockup by the police, I still feel that the reds still need to look at themselves if they rocked up without a ticket or with a forgery.Are you Kelvin MacKenzie? While accepting Wikipedia has it's weaknesses: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hillsborough_Disaster The possibility of fans attempting to gain entry without tickets or with forged tickets was suggested as a contributing factor. South Yorkshire Police suggested the late arrival of fans amounted to a conspiracy to gain entry without tickets. However, analysis of the electronic monitoring system, Health and Safety Executive analysis, and eyewitness accounts showed that the total number of people who entered the Leppings Lane end was below the official capacity of the stand. Eye witness reports suggested that tickets were available on the day and tickets for the Leppings Lane end were on sale from Anfield until the day before. The report dismissed the conspiracy theoryAs far as I'm aware, there is not a single shred of evidence that a single forged ticket was used to gain access to the ground that day. Liverpool hadn't sold out their allocation. I'd suggest you continue to be misled by the bollocks South Yorkshire Police have been pumping out for far too long as part of their despicable criminal conspiracy to blame the fans. Edited April 13, 2014 by opinions4u Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Latics_Fanatic Posted April 13, 2014 Share Posted April 13, 2014 Are you Kelvin MacKenzie? While accepting Wikipedia has it's weaknesses: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hillsborough_Disaster Too many people crowded into the central pen of the Leppings Lane End, whilst the stand may have been under capacity, that central pen was highly over. The polices failure to shut the tunnel off when it got too crowded was a contributing factor as well as opening the gate. We all know the real root cause is football hooliganism of the late 1970's and 1980's though, all events transpired after this and Hillsborough was in fact an accident waiting to happen. As someone up the threat alluded to, that could well have been the United/Latics semi final a year later. Slightly off topic, me and my mate were talking about it the other day, he said he read that Ken Bates wanted the fences to be electrified, in order to prevent hooliganism and pitch invasions... ridiculous! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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