oafcmetty Posted July 24, 2014 Share Posted July 24, 2014 No, I really think he was :censored:. Compare to Porter - other players scored more when he played as well as scoring himself. Better team though than when it was just Beckett. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SavageTheBeast Posted July 24, 2014 Share Posted July 24, 2014 Beckett was toss. He scored a lot because the entire team was set up to give him tap - ins. Nobody else scored when he played, ever. The guy who saved us from going down. You clearly know nothing about football Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_mighty_bosh Posted July 24, 2014 Share Posted July 24, 2014 No, I really think he was :censored:. Compare to Porter - other players scored more when he played as well as scoring himself. The blame for other players not sharing the load has to lie with the manager surely? Beckett was very good at his role, finding space and positions in the box that give him the best chance of scoring goals. If a manager can't build a team/system around that then he isn't doing a very good job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeslover Posted July 24, 2014 Share Posted July 24, 2014 The guy who saved us from going down. You clearly know nothing about footballHis career history suggests that an awful lot of managers at bigger clubs than us know as little as I do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted July 24, 2014 Share Posted July 24, 2014 (edited) His career history suggests that an awful lot of managers at bigger clubs than us know as little as I do. Some managers I have known get by on bluff..just like in any workplace. Edited July 24, 2014 by BP1960 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigfatjoe1 Posted July 24, 2014 Share Posted July 24, 2014 No mention of the mighty Quinn?? 34 in 80 games. or Stevie, Stevie Taylor, 25 goals in 47 games? We've had some good goalscorers over the years, it's just that most are in the distant past. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankly Mr Shankly Posted July 24, 2014 Share Posted July 24, 2014 To be fair, I am not sure Andy Ritchie could be correctly described as prolific. 80 in 180 in the League is 1/2.6. Its fntastic and instrumental in our comparative success. Andin 4/8 in FA Cup is good, and he was prolific with 18/18 in the League Cup But I am not sure that reaches the prolific status, in my view. And most importantly he scored on the big and important occasions!! And prolific if compared to the past 20 years! And take nothing away, a legend=pure and simple. This is why stats are complete bollocks. Everyone on here with even half a brain cell could understand how good Stitch was. He was my favourite player of all time. Not only was he a 'big match' player, but the amount of assists and clever play he was responsible for was phenomenal. Right down to canny movements off the ball to let players in a move or two before a goal. You'd never pick :censored: like that off stats alone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SavageTheBeast Posted July 24, 2014 Share Posted July 24, 2014 Oxley joining Hibs on. A season long loan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fruitygoo Posted July 24, 2014 Share Posted July 24, 2014 (edited) Beckett was toss? congratulations on the worst post of the year award! I'd rather have Beckett knocking in 20 tap ins a year than someone scoring 6 world class finishes and a few assists. Edited July 24, 2014 by Fruitygoo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevie_J Posted July 24, 2014 Share Posted July 24, 2014 This is why stats are complete bollocks. Everyone on here with even half a brain cell could understand how good Stitch was. He was my favourite player of all time. Not only was he a 'big match' player, but the amount of assists and clever play he was responsible for was phenomenal. Right down to canny movements off the ball to let players in a move or two before a goal. You'd never pick :censored: like that off stats alone. The stats still say his scoring record was just shy of 1 in every 2 starts in all competitions, across over 200 games. I don't think that's stretching the definition of the word 'prolific' too far! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc1955 Posted July 24, 2014 Share Posted July 24, 2014 Johnson says he'd like 1 more permanent signing before the Colchester game.... I wonder if that would be in addition to or instead of Llera who has already been offered a deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigfatjoe1 Posted July 24, 2014 Share Posted July 24, 2014 This is why stats are complete bollocks. Everyone on here with even half a brain cell could understand how good Stitch was. He was my favourite player of all time. Not only was he a 'big match' player, but the amount of assists and clever play he was responsible for was phenomenal. Right down to canny movements off the ball to let players in a move or two before a goal. You'd never pick :censored: like that off stats alone. I agree 100%. But, can we even say that the stats are bollocks? Define prolific. Surely, the figures point to a prolific goalscorer in my book (given it includes three seasons in the top flight and the rest in division two). Add to the that the fact that he was a creative genius (as you rightly point out) and you've got the stuff of legends (but we all know that). Basically, i think he's mis-read the stats. Andy Ritchie - all time god! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L1onheartNew Posted July 24, 2014 Share Posted July 24, 2014 Actually it was 91 in 214 if you count his 2nd spell. Christ he was an exciting player and really rapid his hatrick on his second debut against Southampton was the stuff of fairy tales. All in the first half IIRC. Shaw was pure class. We had some damn good strikers around that era....Shaw, Halom, Young, Taylor and Stan. I reckon Taylor was just as quick as Shaw. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimsleftfoot Posted July 24, 2014 Share Posted July 24, 2014 (edited) The stats still say his scoring record was just shy of 1 in every 2 starts in all competitions, across over 200 games. I don't think that's stretching the definition of the word 'prolific' too far! Edit - Especially if you add 'for Oldham'. At the end of the day, he was an all round great player which is much much than just a prolific scorer and one of the reasons the team scored lots of goals. Edited July 24, 2014 by jimsleftfoot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_mighty_bosh Posted July 24, 2014 Share Posted July 24, 2014 Johnson says he'd like 1 more permanent signing before the Colchester game.... I wonder if that would be in addition to or instead of Llera who has already been offered a deal. I don't think that's a problem, as long as he is looking to make more signings between then and September 1st. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeslover Posted July 24, 2014 Share Posted July 24, 2014 Beckett was toss? congratulations on the worst post of the year award! I'd rather have Beckett knocking in 20 tap ins a year than someone scoring 6 world class finishes and a few assists. I'm not having that when I've got over 5 months to work on it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneSizeFitz Posted July 24, 2014 Share Posted July 24, 2014 (edited) Beckett had (at least) a 1 in 3 league goals per game ratio for every club he ever played for (aside for 5 games at Sheffield United). Pretty impressive, really. Especially when you compare that to what we've got now. Edited July 24, 2014 by OneSizeFitz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryBosch Posted July 24, 2014 Share Posted July 24, 2014 Beckett was toss. I'm questioning whether I should take any further part on our Winchester crush after this bombshell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeslover Posted July 24, 2014 Share Posted July 24, 2014 T55, Rochdale Road End. One at a time or all at once, it makes no difference to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigfatjoe1 Posted July 24, 2014 Share Posted July 24, 2014 Edit - Especially if you add 'for Oldham'. At the end of the day, he was an all round great player which is much much than just a prolific scorer and one of the reasons the team scored lots of goals. So we're all agreed. Prolific...creative genius...and a god. And, all at the top level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigfatjoe1 Posted July 24, 2014 Share Posted July 24, 2014 Beckett had (at least) a 1 in 3 league goals per game ratio for every club he ever played for (aside for 5 games at Sheffield United). Pretty impressive, really. Especially when you compare that to what we've got now. yes, he was okay at this level (for a fat slow bloke). But, not in the same class as Quinn, Taylor, Palmer or (we all agree ) god. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted July 24, 2014 Share Posted July 24, 2014 (edited) Striker looking for a move; fancy him on loan? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marcello_Trotta Edited July 24, 2014 by BP1960 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Latics_Fanatic Posted July 24, 2014 Share Posted July 24, 2014 Striker looking for a move; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marcello_Trotta As long as we don't let him take penalties... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsslatic Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 Llera offer now withdrawn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deyres42 Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 At least we tried... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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