oafc1955 Posted August 2, 2014 Share Posted August 2, 2014 Yes thats why I asked why you think he has dropped a major bollock with Kusunga. Not suggested that you've questioned his ability. Because, with international call ups and the inevitable injuries he will pick up I reckon we will be lucky if he plays 20 games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeroyboy Posted August 2, 2014 Share Posted August 2, 2014 After a shaky start and formation (bearing in mind that you can't blame the formation too much for inability to make a tackle or accurate pass) we looked decent, especially in midfield. It's highly likely that LJ sent TW up in the stand to have a look at the angles and distances. It was decided before kick-off, so therefore the set-up must have been a worry. The formation was quickly changed (it was obvious to all it wasn't working) to one that would have also been discussed before kick-off. I don't think for one second that Tommy wandered off to the stand for a looksy off his own bat or without detailed discussion beforehand. They are the two top dogs in a coaching team but my money is on LJ being the most thorough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueatheart Posted August 2, 2014 Share Posted August 2, 2014 Because, with international call ups and the inevitable injuries he will pick up I reckon we will be lucky if he plays 20 games.No one knows. LJ doesn't know, you don't know, Kusunga himself doesn't know. I almost thought that Kelly was out for the season when he went down in the first half. No one knows how injury prone a player is until he plays (or not as the case may be). I very much doubt that LJ will have taken the option on Kusunga without an in depth analysis from the physio. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deyres42 Posted August 2, 2014 Share Posted August 2, 2014 They are the two top dogs in a coaching team but my money is on LJ being the most thorough. Based on? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beag_teeets Posted August 2, 2014 Share Posted August 2, 2014 Did broady really refer to James Dayton as "Hames Dayton" on the PA or is it just me!? I thought that too! Thought it was funny! One thing that a lot of people forget about Mellor & Winchester is that they are still pups even though they have been around forever. I really hope the pair of them have a cracking season and continue their development. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeroyboy Posted August 2, 2014 Share Posted August 2, 2014 Based on? In the absence of the salary structure - my opinion. What's yours, and we can debate it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deyres42 Posted August 2, 2014 Share Posted August 2, 2014 (edited) In the absence of the salary structure - my opinion. What's yours, and we can debate it? Well we looked more organised, more of a unit in the last 10-12 games of last season IMO, Wright may have had nowt to do with that, would tend to think he did though. Edited August 2, 2014 by deyres42 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankly Mr Shankly Posted August 2, 2014 Share Posted August 2, 2014 New song for the Athleticos: "We can argue more than you! We can argue... We can argue... We can argue more than you!" FFS lads. It's a friendly (and we won, believe it or not!). You're all right and all wrong at the same time. Pfft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnthonyOAFC Posted August 2, 2014 Share Posted August 2, 2014 Just had a look at the goals. Superb pass by Winchester, for the first. Third goal, well, what a finish son! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankly Mr Shankly Posted August 2, 2014 Share Posted August 2, 2014 That third goal looks a bit like Betsy's was on his debut. But not quite as good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeroyboy Posted August 2, 2014 Share Posted August 2, 2014 Well we looked more organised, more of a unit in the last 10-12 games of last season IMO, Wright may have had nowt to do with that, would tend to think he did though. TW certainly does 'appear' to have made a difference and LJ will certainly be listening to observations of a wise old head. But we are not privy to any tactical conversations and our posts can only be based on individual opinion. But if you are suggesting that he is somehow out ranking LJ I must ask you - based on what? I clearly implied what I thought was likely. What do you think is likely - apart from them working together? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc1955 Posted August 2, 2014 Share Posted August 2, 2014 No one knows. LJ doesn't know, you don't know, Kusunga himself doesn't know. I almost thought that Kelly was out for the season when he went down in the first half. No one knows how injury prone a player is until he plays (or not as the case may be). I very much doubt that LJ will have taken the option on Kusunga without an in depth analysis from the physio. True but he was quite injury prone last year and if that's repeated we won't see too much of him. The more settled the back four is and the more they play together the better they should become. If as Matt Chambers suggests, he could be away for 10 internationals and that will probably account for 12/15 league games without accounting for any injuries, that in itself would make it difficult for him to become part of a settled back four. He's a good player no doubt but I still maintain if Llera had been made available earlier, Kusunga would have been looking for a new club now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diego_Sideburns Posted August 2, 2014 Share Posted August 2, 2014 (edited) Is this him training for us? Here is Ben Heneghan warming up today. https://www.flickr.com/photos/diego_sideburns/14624842570/ Edited August 2, 2014 by Diego_Sideburns Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deyres42 Posted August 3, 2014 Share Posted August 3, 2014 TW certainly does 'appear' to have made a difference and LJ will certainly be listening to observations of a wise old head. But we are not privy to any tactical conversations and our posts can only be based on individual opinion. But if you are suggesting that he is somehow out ranking LJ I must ask you - based on what? I clearly implied what I thought was likely. What do you think is likely - apart from them working together? Wouldn't claim to know how they operate, there's plenty on here who think Johnson is some sort of genius though, they are 'sure' he will do this and 'sure' he'll do that - I don't see what that level of faith is based on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Scottish Zidane Posted August 3, 2014 Share Posted August 3, 2014 Does it really matter who made the call? At the end of the day I couldn't care less as long as we won the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaronoafc Posted August 3, 2014 Share Posted August 3, 2014 (edited) I think it was Billy Quarmby who made the call Edited August 3, 2014 by aaronoafc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
opinions4u Posted August 3, 2014 Share Posted August 3, 2014 Wouldn't claim to know how they operate, there's plenty on here who think Johnson is some sort of genius though, they are 'sure' he will do this and 'sure' he'll do that - I don't see what that level of faith is based on. I'm still at the "talks a good talk" and desperate hope stage! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeroyboy Posted August 3, 2014 Share Posted August 3, 2014 Wouldn't claim to know how they operate, there's plenty on here who think Johnson is some sort of genius though, they are 'sure' he will do this and 'sure' he'll do that - I don't see what that level of faith is based on. That's your opinion, ok. At least I've managed to tease a position out of you. Your not a big fan of LJ and you suspect last seasons revival may be down to TW. You may be right. LJ is an apprentice coach, TW is an experienced one with a modicum of success - that's why he hired him. I see LJ as football business manager and I think he looks promising, more to the point so does Corney, who desperately needs some essential luck with a manager. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc1955 Posted August 3, 2014 Share Posted August 3, 2014 No one knows. LJ doesn't know, you don't know, Kusunga himself doesn't know. I almost thought that Kelly was out for the season when he went down in the first half. No one knows how injury prone a player is until he plays (or not as the case may be). I very much doubt that LJ will have taken the option on Kusunga without an in depth analysis from the physio. Apparently he's not injured at the moment he's away on international duty as Angola had a game on Saturday and I believe they have another on 12th or 13th so he probably won't be avalable for the season opener and the cup game next Tuesday. Great start to his season @ OAFC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevesidg Posted August 4, 2014 Share Posted August 4, 2014 Apparently he's not injured at the moment he's away on international duty as Angola had a game on Saturday and I believe they have another on 12th or 13th so he probably won't be avalable for the season opener and the cup game next Tuesday. Great start to his season @ OAFC. Have searched online. Angola beat Ethiopia 1-0 at the weekend in a friendly , and kusunga was in the squad, though don't know if he played. They have another friendly v Botswana on 12th August . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAC0AFC Posted August 4, 2014 Share Posted August 4, 2014 i think id rather play for oldham then Angola... considering he's eligible to play for 3 nations! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bpmarko Posted August 4, 2014 Share Posted August 4, 2014 Does it really matter who made the call? At the end of the day I couldn't care less as long as we won the game. I am Spartacus! I made the call! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigfatjoe1 Posted August 6, 2014 Share Posted August 6, 2014 LJ in MEN “I was bored of the formation we were playing and we didn’t have enough of the ball to be effective so I changed it. “Once that happened we then had our first move and scored. Everyone started to enjoy themselves after that. Issue resolved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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