OAFCM35 Posted October 2, 2014 Share Posted October 2, 2014 http://www.telegraph.co.uk/education/11134553/Racist-school-excluded-English-speaking-students-from-trip.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4froale Posted October 3, 2014 Share Posted October 3, 2014 Oh dear, imagine the uproar if it was the other way round. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimsleftfoot Posted October 3, 2014 Share Posted October 3, 2014 Alternative Headlines: Primary School seeks to target the needs of individual children rather than sticking everyone in the same boat and hoping for the best. Brits want foreigners to embrace English culture but get annoyed when a School actually seeks to do that. Parents take kids out of school because they didn't get to go on a School trip, same parents post meme on facebook about School being much stricter in the old days and how crap this 'I want' society is Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsslatic Posted October 3, 2014 Share Posted October 3, 2014 (edited) What a load of rubbish (from the parents of the 'British' kids). Edited October 3, 2014 by jsslatic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OAFCM35 Posted October 3, 2014 Author Share Posted October 3, 2014 Alternative Headlines: Primary School seeks to target the needs of individual children rather than sticking everyone in the same boat and hoping for the best. Brits want foreigners to embrace English culture but get annoyed when a School actually seeks to do that. Parents take kids out of school because they didn't get to go on a School trip, same parents post meme on facebook about School being much stricter in the old days and how crap this 'I want' society is Imagine they'd off sent the English speaking kids to the Zoo and kept the non English speaking kids at school to "target there needs" would you of been ok with that? Would the parents of the non English speaking children be ok with it ? I think not, there would be uproar, children shouldn't be missing out on school trips because they can or can not speak English Ohh and that's a nice generalisation of what working class parents are like Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeslover Posted October 3, 2014 Share Posted October 3, 2014 If I read it rightly then some non - English kids also didn't go? I must admit to being confused about how a family trip to feed carrots to donkeys helps them learn English though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsslatic Posted October 3, 2014 Share Posted October 3, 2014 If I read it rightly then some non - English kids also didn't go? I must admit to being confused about how a family trip to feed carrots to donkeys helps them learn English though. Surely it's always easier to learn a language when it's made fun and things are tangible and in front of you. I'm sure going to the farm and learning the names of animals and things around is going to be a better teaching technique than learning it from some drawings in a book. Of course the parents want a taxpayer funded trip for their kids to go to the farm and stand in the background whilst non-English kids are taught 'this is a cow'. Because that will be of tremendous educational benefit, and they wouldn't at all complain of their children's time being wasted by teachers having to teach English to kids at a farm whilst their kids could have been learning other things in the classroom. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevie_J Posted October 3, 2014 Share Posted October 3, 2014 Let's get angry. Grrr. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeslover Posted October 3, 2014 Share Posted October 3, 2014 Surely it's always easier to learn a language when it's made fun and things are tangible and in front of you. I'm sure going to the farm and learning the names of animals and things around is going to be a better teaching technique than learning it from some drawings in a book. Of course the parents want a taxpayer funded trip for their kids to go to the farm and stand in the background whilst non-English kids are taught 'this is a cow'. Because that will be of tremendous educational benefit, and they wouldn't at all complain of their children's time being wasted by teachers having to teach English to kids at a farm whilst their kids could have been learning other things in the classroom. I've been to a farm in Oman and I'd be :censored:ed if I could tell you the Arabic for cow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsslatic Posted October 3, 2014 Share Posted October 3, 2014 I've been to a farm in Oman and I'd be :censored:ed if I could tell you the Arabic for cow Shariya law really is barbaric. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Villains Posted October 3, 2014 Share Posted October 3, 2014 Imagine they'd off sent the English speaking kids to the Zoo and kept the non English speaking kids at school to "target there needs" would you of been ok with that? imagine yes didn't happen though did it? "their needs" maybe you should go on the bloody trip to gain some grounding with the language or put a cork in it....youre just making a :censored: out of yourself Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimsleftfoot Posted October 3, 2014 Share Posted October 3, 2014 Imagine they'd off sent the English speaking kids to the Zoo and kept the non English speaking kids at school to "target there needs" would you of been ok with that? Would the parents of the non English speaking children be ok with it ? I think not, there would be uproar, children shouldn't be missing out on school trips because they can or can not speak English Ohh and that's a nice generalisation of what working class parents are like It depends on whether the context and whether there is a need. I'm not sure in your example what need the English kids have that need to be met. Kids with special educational needs often get a person to support them specifically in a classroom. How come they get help where others don't? It's because they have a need that they need help with. Thanks, i'm glad you like it though why do you assume it was directed at 'working class parents only'? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Scratch2000uk Posted October 3, 2014 Share Posted October 3, 2014 The problem with the non speaking English pupils is the costs of their educational needs. I'm guessing that's why they didn't invite the english speaking kids? I don't think it's because they're racist at all. There are some schools, with English not being their first language running at 99%. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OAFCM35 Posted October 5, 2014 Author Share Posted October 5, 2014 (edited) imagine yes didn't happen though did it? "their needs" maybe you should go on the bloody trip to gain some grounding with the language or put a cork in it....youre just making a :censored: out of yourself Or maybe you should Edited October 5, 2014 by OAFCM35 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryBosch Posted October 6, 2014 Share Posted October 6, 2014 We're after moving to Spain at some point in the future. My daughter is worried about not being able to speak Spanish. We've told her she'll be surrounded by Spanish kids at school and, therefore, will be fluent & teaching us after 6 to 12 months. Have we got this theory terribly wrong? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted October 6, 2014 Share Posted October 6, 2014 We're after moving to Spain at some point in the future. My daughter is worried about not being able to speak Spanish. We've told her she'll be surrounded by Spanish kids at school and, therefore, will be fluent & teaching us after 6 to 12 months. Have we got this theory terribly wrong? Although I'm not sure about the time-frame, it's regarded that immersion is the best way to learn a language. I'm currently learning Italian and I'm doing quite well, however I know I'd be doing damn sight better if I was in Italy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OAFCM35 Posted October 6, 2014 Author Share Posted October 6, 2014 Although I'm not sure about the time-frame, it's regarded that immersion is the best way to learn a language. I'm currently learning Italian and I'm doing quite well, however I know I'd be doing damn sight better if I was in Italy. Would a trip to the zoo help? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted October 6, 2014 Share Posted October 6, 2014 Would a trip to the zoo help? If it meant generally associating in another language - yes. I'd imagine that it'd would be more beneficial to children; incorporating fun with learning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryBosch Posted October 6, 2014 Share Posted October 6, 2014 Although I'm not sure about the time-frame, it's regarded that immersion is the best way to learn a language. I'm currently learning Italian and I'm doing quite well, however I know I'd be doing damn sight better if I was in Italy. Have your trips to "FC" helped you master Mancunian? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted October 6, 2014 Share Posted October 6, 2014 Have your trips to "FC" helped you master Mancunian? I'd nasally say that's correct. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OAFCM35 Posted October 6, 2014 Author Share Posted October 6, 2014 If it meant generally associating in another language - yes. I'd imagine that it'd would be more beneficial to children; incorporating fun with learning. I would imagine all that would work even better if there was fluent speakers of the other language there also Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OAFCM35 Posted October 6, 2014 Author Share Posted October 6, 2014 I'd nasally say that's correct. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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