BP1960 Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 IMO it's worked to such an extent in that it's enabled better attacking midfield options, but on the other side of the coin some players e.g Forte and Poleon seem to find it difficult to adjust. Are you in favour of leaving it as it is or changing it ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudemedic Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 IMO it's worked to such an extent in that it's enabled better attacking midfield options, but on the other side of the coin some players e.g Forte and Poleon seem to find it difficult to adjust. Are you in favour of leaving it as it is or changing it ? If we say the diamond has been used since Coventry(h) Forte has scored 3 goals in 5 games, but actually 4 games of actual playing time due the amount of time he was substituted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewBlue Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 It would never happen, but the only way I could see it accommodating all of our players is if we didn't play a striker and instead put Forte on the left wing, Winchester/Poleon on the right and had Philliskirk in the number 10 role, without a number 9. That's the only way I could see it suiting Poleon and Forte. More likely, we drop Philliskirk, replace him with Jabo and play wingers again. That or we revert to dropping a defender, but that way it would require Jones sitting back again, which would disrupt his form in that slightly more advanced midfield role of late, and bit of tracking back for Forte, and you wouldn't want your main attacking threat having defensive responsibilities. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seasidelatic Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 It would never happen, but the only way I could see it accommodating all of our players is if we didn't play a striker and instead put Forte on the left wing, Winchester/Poleon on the right and had Philliskirk in the number 10 role, without a number 9. That's the only way I could see it suiting Poleon and Forte. More likely, we drop Philliskirk, replace him with Jabo and play wingers again. That or we revert to dropping a defender, but that way it would require Jones sitting back again, which would disrupt his form in that slightly more advanced midfield role of late, and bit of tracking back for Forte, and you wouldn't want your main attacking threat having defensive responsibilities. A 4-3-3 with a false nine, at Boundary Park? I'm not sure what the Main Stand folk would make of that. I'm in, for the record. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stagger Lee Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 Former England midfielder Chris WaddleTalking about England (but possibly Oldham) later in the afternoon on the bbc."We keep playing this diamond which doesn't work. We've got people with pace out wide, use it. Don't put them in the middle of the park where it's congested." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slystallone Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 It's worked. Why look to change it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted November 16, 2014 Author Share Posted November 16, 2014 It's worked. Why look to change it? I'll have a little bet LJ does change before January. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slystallone Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 I'll have a little bet LJ does change before January. We might do BP, subject to player changes. I'll give you an OWTB chuffy badge if it happens... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
astottie Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 Former England midfielder Chris Waddle Talking about England (but possibly Oldham) later in the afternoon on the bbc. "We keep playing this diamond which doesn't work. We've got people with pace out wide, use it. Don't put them in the middle of the park where it's congested." Is this the same Chris Waddle who said after 60 minutes that Welbeck should be taken off because he was contributing nothing?The one person in the world who you would expect to be able to say the word penalty but can't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted November 16, 2014 Author Share Posted November 16, 2014 (edited) We might do BP, subject to player changes. I'll give you an OWTB chuffy badge if it happens... Ok..rememberI have George and Lockwood or Kusunga as aces up my sleeve for a back 3 with J Wilson. Edited November 16, 2014 by BP1960 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_mighty_bosh Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 LJ isn't afraid to change formation/tactics when they haven't been working. I have enough faith to believe that he will change things again when necessary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted November 16, 2014 Author Share Posted November 16, 2014 LJ isn't afraid to change formation/tactics when they haven't been working. I have enough faith to believe that he will change things again when necessary. The present tactics have worked to a great extent, its just where do you fit in your best players? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al_bro Posted November 17, 2014 Share Posted November 17, 2014 The opposition are expecting it now and set up accordingly. It would throw them initially if we changed, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deyres42 Posted November 17, 2014 Share Posted November 17, 2014 Need goals and assists from Philliskirk if he is playing in that position, not getting many of either from him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBigDog Posted November 17, 2014 Share Posted November 17, 2014 For me, the diamond formation is more suited to away games. At home we should play with more width - especially against the likes of Crawley Town. Also it is most effective when the midfield shows initiative and variety in it's play with at least one prepared to dribble into the box (Johnson), one prepared to shoot (Jones). It could have been so different on Saturday... even a 1-0 victory would have taken us up to sixth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShireBlue Posted November 17, 2014 Share Posted November 17, 2014 I've liked the diamond, but when you're up against a 10 man defence it can easily get congested in the middle. It looked as though Poleon came on Saturday to try and stretch Crawley, but we just missed a killer cross and finish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
opinions4u Posted November 17, 2014 Share Posted November 17, 2014 Need goals and assists from Philliskirk if he is playing in that position, not getting many of either from him. It'll come. But what a terrible choice for motm Saturday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjk2008 Posted November 17, 2014 Share Posted November 17, 2014 Home Paul Rachubka Brian Wilson - Genseric Kusunga - James Wilson - Joseph Mills Daniel Johnson - Mike Jones - Liam Kelly - Jonathan Forte Jabo Ibehre - Danny Philliskirk The likes of Winchester, Dayton & Poleon to come off the bench..... Away Paul Rachubka Brian Wilson - Genseric Kusunga - James Wilson - Joseph Mills Liam Kelly - Michael Tidser Daniel Johnson - Mike Jones - Jonathan Forte Jabo Ibehre The likes of Philliskirk, Dayton & Poleon to come off the bench. This could also flex to become a diamond with Johnson the #10 behind Ibehre & Forte. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChaddySmoker Posted November 17, 2014 Share Posted November 17, 2014 It'll come. But what a terrible choice for motm Saturday. Danny P was the main attacking force in the 2nd half on Saturday, creating for himself a few half chances My only criticism would be that he needs to find a pass in the area when 2 or 3 defenders are throwing themselves in the way of a shot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
opinions4u Posted November 17, 2014 Share Posted November 17, 2014 Danny P was the main attacking force in the 2nd half on Saturday, creating for himself a few half chances My only criticism would be that he needs to find a pass in the area when 2 or 3 defenders are throwing themselves in the way of a shot For me, missing a sitter and wasting our other best opportunity doesn't warrant a MOTM award. And I rate him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josh_latics Posted November 17, 2014 Share Posted November 17, 2014 For me, missing a sitter and wasting our other best opportunity doesn't warrant a MOTM award. And I rate him. Me too. Think his head dropped when he missed his header. On a side note, thought Poleon was quite effective in his 12 minutes out wide, got himself into good positions and pulled it back well for one of DP's chances. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaddy_Ender Posted November 17, 2014 Share Posted November 17, 2014 Could Philliskirks place be under threat from Johnson ? He seemed to want to play in the hole and looked a right handful first half he was a little more conservative in the second half but was always looking to make things happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monty Burns Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 Is this the same Chris Waddle who said after 60 minutes that Welbeck should be taken off because he was contributing nothing? The one person in the world who you would expect to be able to say the word penalty but can't. He cant say Arsenal either Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diego_Sideburns Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 Ok..rememberI have George and Lockwood or Kusunga as aces up my sleeve for a back 3 with J Wilson. The rarely-wrong Chron says Kusunga is playing against Angola tonight. http://www.oldham-chronicle.co.uk/news-features/10/oldham-athletic-news/89013/competition-fierce-for-place-at-centreback Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tragicaussie Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 Need to adapt to the circumstances of the match at hand. Playing fixed strategies doesn't bode well for long term success. That being said I like the home/away side combo a few posts above. I'd probably say 2 points were dropped on weekend, fell victim to a side who scouted us well? I personally prefer the wingback swooping wide in attack for width and the long crosses and angled back in passes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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