opinions4u Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 Ouch. Hope he gets through this (stating the obvious). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
astottie Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 Ouch. Hope he gets through this (stating the obvious). it just looks bloody awful, the way he collapses. Here's hoping. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
24hoursfromtulsehill Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 He was targeted in the 2009 Ashes for being iffy against the short ball. So when you're watching, you're thinking, "Give him a short ball and see how he goes." Is that willing an injury on someone? I feel a bit queasy after watching that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeslover Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 He was targeted in the 2009 Ashes for being iffy against the short ball. So when you're watching, you're thinking, "Give him a short ball and see how he goes." Is that willing an injury on someone? I feel a bit queasy after watching that. It's a fair question but I don't think so. Pain maybe but not serious harm. Of course we all laughed when Punter got his head cut but it takes a freak incident to do something like that with modern equipment Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ackey Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 It's a fair question but I don't think so. Pain maybe but not serious harm. Of course we all laughed when Punter got his head cut but it takes a freak incident to do something like that with modern equipment Exactly that isn't it. Hit him, knock the wind out of him, rattle him... sure, 100% - but never do you want to see that. The video made me gag, you literally watch his brain stop working about two seconds after he's hit. I'll wait for Dr Doolittle to come along and point out my lack of knowledge - but I would wildly speculate that's his brain swelling? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeslover Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 It'll be concussion. You see boxers go down in stages after being hit there rather than going straight over after being caught on the chin. Cricket balls don't wear gloves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wozzer Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 It'll be concussion. You see boxers go down in stages after being hit there rather than going straight over after being caught on the chin. Cricket balls don't wear gloves. He's had surgery and is an induced coma. It's a bit more serious than concussion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeslover Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 He's had surgery and is an induced coma. It's a bit more serious than concussionYeah, just the immediate knocking out I mean. Clearly a bad one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
24hoursfromtulsehill Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 Personally if I was a doctor, I'd induce a coma until the cerebral edema subsides, gradually bringing the patient off the Glasgow scale. As for post-intensive care care, I'd recommend a mixture of psychological and physiological interventions to determine the patient's fitness for given tasks for a year or more. I'd certainly recommend not playing cricket ever again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudemedic Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 He has most likely had an extradural haematoma/haemorrhage. This is where a blow to the head causing blood to form in the space between the skull and the brain, (which is the dural space). It isn't the brain swelling, it's closer to the opposite, the brain is getting crushed. The period of lucidity you see is quite common in head injuries, Petr Cech was conscious in the dressing room and then deteriorated rapidly after the head injury that means he wears that scrum cap. Due to the location of the injury they might have to ensure he can see properly afterwards too. As that bit of the skull, the occipital lobe, is an area that is heavily involved with sight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudemedic Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 Personally if I was a doctor, I'd induce a coma until the cerebral edema subsides, gradually bringing the patient off the Glasgow scale. As for post-intensive care care, I'd recommend a mixture of psychological and physiological interventions to determine the patient's fitness for given tasks for a year or more. I'd certainly recommend not playing cricket ever again.What American website did you get that from.We spell it oedema in this country, the same way we spell oesophagus as opposed to esophagus. To be honest if he plays international cricket again I'd be very surprised, like hinted, he is going to have some psychological injury on top of the physiological injury, which may well have long-term sequelae. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rosa Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 It's spelt 'edema' in the International Statistical Classification of Diseases and in Snomed (google it). What a horrible freak accident. Hopefully he'll be fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudemedic Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 It's spelt 'edema' in the International Statistical Classification of Diseases and in Snomed (google it). What a horrible freak accident. Hopefully he'll be fine. If I spelt it edema in an exam I wouldn't get full marks.It is a freak accident but I suppose he is the unlucky one as this could well cause a helmet redesign. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeslover Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 If I spelt it edema in an exam I wouldn't get full marks. Wisdom after the event eh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
24hoursfromtulsehill Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 He has most likely had an extradural haematoma/haemorrhage. This is where a blow to the head causing blood to form in the space between the skull and the brain, (which is the dural space). It isn't the brain swelling, it's closer to the opposite, the brain is getting crushed. The period of lucidity you see is quite common in head injuries, Petr Cech was conscious in the dressing room and then deteriorated rapidly after the head injury that means he wears that scrum cap. Due to the location of the injury they might have to ensure he can see properly afterwards too. As that bit of the skull, the occipital lobe, is an area that is heavily involved with sight. Thanks, doctor. FYI, I made it up on the hoof. No google, no nothing. I just sat there and typed that crap out without hardly even thinking about it. It's probably classier than the prognosis provided by your average Australian doctor. They'll probably take his head off to get a better look. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudemedic Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 Wisdom after the event eh? Alas yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudemedic Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 Thanks, doctor. FYI, I made it up on the hoof. No google, no nothing. I just sat there and typed that crap out without hardly even thinking about it. It's probably classier than the prognosis provided by your average Australian doctor. They'll probably take his head off to get a better look. Careful I know a Sydney neurosurgeon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maddog Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 What American website did you get that from. We spell it oedema in this country, the same way we spell oesophagus as opposed to esophagus. To be honest if he plays international cricket again I'd be very surprised, like hinted, he is going to have some psychological injury on top of the physiological injury, which may well have long-term sequelae. What? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ackey Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 What American website did you get that from. We spell it oedema in this country, the same way we spell oesophagus as opposed to esophagus. To be honest if he plays international cricket again I'd be very surprised, like hinted, he is going to have some psychological injury on top of the physiological injury, which may well have long-term sequelae. About time! Thank you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
opinions4u Posted November 27, 2014 Author Share Posted November 27, 2014 He's died. Quite shocking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Sinnott Posted November 27, 2014 Share Posted November 27, 2014 Awful news. Can't help but feel sorry for the poor bastard who bowled at him, too... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4froale Posted November 27, 2014 Share Posted November 27, 2014 Terrible news. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rosa Posted November 27, 2014 Share Posted November 27, 2014 God that's awful. Poor Abbott must be in bits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevie_J Posted November 27, 2014 Share Posted November 27, 2014 Terrible news. He was apparently about to be brought back into the Aussie Test set up as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeslover Posted November 27, 2014 Share Posted November 27, 2014 Terrible. He always came across as a really good bloke. Hugely talented batsman too, if he got back to his best he'd have played Tests for another decade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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