chris_oafc Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 (edited) First question - are you pleased CE is no longer coming to Oldham Athletic? BBC in the know or just trying to trick him into answer positively? That's what i thought when i first heard it. But then he said he will stick with the decision what the board make? so has there been a decision made Edited January 5, 2015 by chris_oafc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lags Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 Wouldn't that lead to a re-trial ? It almost certainly would I would imagine. I've no idea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
losesome Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 Ed Milliband has joined the debate and said that Latics shouldn't sign him.Politics and sport ???Just what i needed to vote Tories in next election !!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wozzer Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 LIBERAL Democrat Parliamentary candidate for Oldham East and Saddleworth Richard Marbrow said it would be a mistake for Oldham Athletic to sign convicted rapist Ched Evans. Mr Marbrow said: Oldham Athletic should not sign Ched Evans. Like many people I spent Boxing Day watching a live football match in the lower leagues with members of my family. The ground was packed with kids and they idolise and adore the players. NOT THE LATICS THEN!!!!!!! A convicted rapist is not a good role model for kids to see on a football pitch at a family-oriented club. This is the last thing Oldham needs to be associated with. Oldham Athletic should steer well clear. Liverpudlian whose only job outside politics appears to be a "crew member at McDonalds" never won an election. Wow got to love these politicians. Seriously when LD and Lab politicians demonstrate this kind of zeal when dealing with former criminals you have to wonder where society is going. We just need the Tories to offer to put him in stocks outside BP and UKIP to come out and say Welsh people shouldn't be taking English jobs anyway and we'll have a full house of nutters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc0000 Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 Ed Milliband has joined the debate and said that Latics shouldn't sign him. Politics and sport ??? Just what i needed to vote Tories in next election !!!!!!!!!! More fool you... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc0000 Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 I've no idea I haven't got a problem with us agreeing to sign a "not guilty" Ched Evans... But it isn't that... A "not guilty" Ched Evans wouldn't be signing for us would he ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4froale Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 do you really think he will go anywhere near us if his conviction is overturned? half the championship will be in for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 (edited) I suspect solicitors have been dragged into this, hence why its taking so long. Edited January 5, 2015 by BP1960 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
24hoursfromtulsehill Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 If the announcement say's an agreement is in place that if Cheds case review goes in his favour then a contract will be signed and that a preliminary agreement has been signed, what would the feelings be? Ched might be very old by the time he clears his name. My feelings have changed slightly. I hate him more after reading his awful "Justice for Ched" website. He's clearly going after the victim and her friends and family. This is not the way to establish your innocence in such a case. For that alone, and regardless of whether a future court finds that the conviction was unsafe, I still hate him and want him never to play football again. It's true he's badly advised (his lawyers are milking him dry via the website and other ruses) but he's responsible for taking that advice. He's offereing money to anyone who will help him further sully the reputation of the victim. He's a grubby little :censored: who deserves nothing from anyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OLDHAMADE Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 do you really think he will go anywhere near us if his conviction is overturned? half the championship will be in for him. +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 Are the board waiting for Corney to fly in from New York, perhaps he has to be in person for such decisions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
underdog Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 (edited) "The club know our stance..." Suggests that sponsors have been consulted by the club. In which case, the club clearly had some foresight of the reaction they're supposedly so surprised by.Am I right in thinking that the players father in law has some money? So surely, regardless of fans opinions and the publics opinions too, the club have weighed up if we lost sponsors how are we going to recoup? I believe their is a judicial review of the case which could in 35 weeks time or sooner, could possibly cast doubt on the conviction if not overturn it. Are the club playing a dangerous waiting game on a possible reversal, possible he can produce under the pressure he will be under. Possibly be worth some cash if cleared, if has a good goal ratio and can be sold on with profit. Surely our solicitors/sponsors would have investigated and advised? Someone also suggested the FA/PFA involvement in this and our stance on montano. Are we being asked to "help" this player? I'm sure it will all come out in the wash and I look forward on Saturday to fight for my seat when those addition 16,000 plus fans who sign the petition show up who possible have never been to BP or know where we are. We just don't learn with regards to the PR of it all do we. I could have been handled a lot better. I know they say there is no bad press but yikes. Edited January 5, 2015 by underdog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimsleftfoot Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 Do I think the conviction was safe? No. Does this matter? No. Has Ched served his sentence? Yes. Do I think this matters? Yes. Was he released early? Yes. Should he be allowed to work again? Yes. Should OAFC offer him a job? This is of course the difficult one. Given that I think he shouldn't be hounded out of work in the way he has been I suppose the answer is Yes. Should OAFC have handled this better? Most certainly. Firstly the Board should have considered all the angles and supported the idea 100%. Secondly the Board should have made sure LJ supported the decision 100%. Thirdly they should have spoken to the club sponsors. Then and only then if everyone was on board, they should have signed him and made the announcement. What should they do now? Sign him! To give in to the mainly ill informed over reactions that I have read on this thread would be wrong. There are arguments for and arguments against which I respect but mainly there is the sort of mass hysteria which these instant forms of communication promulgate. He hasn't served his sentence, he's out on licence and could potentially be returned to prison if he break any of the conditions. He's also listed on the sex offenders register. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 He hasn't served his sentence, he's out on licence and could potentially be returned to prison if he break any of the conditions. He's also listed on the sex offenders register. What are the implications of being on the sex offenders register playing for a football club? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnthonyOAFC Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 This is being/has been handled terribly by the club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oafc1895 Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 Manchester Police Commissioner saying no it is sending out the wrong message as per SSN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ackey Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 I'm sure it will all come out in the wash and I look forward on Saturday to fight for my seat when those addition 16,000 plus fans who sign the petition show up who possible have never been to BP or know where we are. They're still entitled to voice an opinion on this - that's part of the problem, the club has left our little bubble and stepped out in to the real world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimsleftfoot Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 What are the implications of being on the sex offenders register playing for a football club? A disqualification from working with Children is perhaps the main one (may not be an automatic condition). Given that we have a youth team and children attending matches, measures would have to be put into place to monitor him and ensure compliance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aberdeenlatic Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 (edited) Would like to understand the PFA's role in this fiasco. Taylor's statement yesterday was strange, wanting their member to be rehabilitated, the club he signs for needs to be 100% committed, making it public that a club from league 1 was interested, but he would not be attending the press conference. Pure conjecture but what happens if the PFA had pushed for the signing - they wanted him to play again, worked with the club to make it happen. Club said they would do with the PFA backing (staying strong together). They get a deal signed and then the club get cold feet when Taylor states unwilling to be present at press conference. Club say they are going to pull out of deal. Taylor responds by issuing press release. It is the 100% committed part that makes me wonder if Taylor was making it harder for the club to pull out. It quickly came out it was us that were the league 1 club involved. Anyway pure conjecture and conspiracy at its best! Just unsure what the PFA role has been with the club. Edited January 5, 2015 by aberdeenlatic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laticsrblue Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 If I was a Latics player, and Evans signed, my transfer request would be on the managers table straight away. How many players would refuse to join Latics if he was at BP? How many loanees would refuse to come? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
underdog Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 (edited) They're still entitled to voice an opinion on this - that's part of the problem, the club has left our little bubble and stepped out in to the real world. I agree, but should the club be swayed on this? It's an interesting factor to have. Possibly not true fans hence me saying public opinion higher up that post but it does speak volumes on how the public public feel about this player and that he shouldallowed to play in a professional team, or at lest until conviction quashed/overturned. A whole lot of :censored:e going into the mix.....what a mess this player is going to bring on whichever club sign him and what involvement the PFA are having if he is paying his dues too in supporting his career. Football.....it's a funny old game Edited January 5, 2015 by underdog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimsleftfoot Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 Dear me the Greater Manchester police commissioner Tony Lloyd says shouldn't sign him...... does this chap not think he needs to get his own house in order and beyond criticism. Wasn't even sure the bloke existed. Interesting comment from a police related person ....rehab of offenders? Agreed, I don't think we should sign him but it seems strange that we have all these politicians giving their opinions. In which case they should be legislating or putting pressure on the FA and PFA to provide rules. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wozzer Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 (edited) Dear me the Greater Manchester police commissioner Tony Lloyd says shouldn't sign him...... does this chap not think he needs to get his own house in order and beyond criticism. Wasn't even sure the bloke existed. Interesting comment from a police related person ....rehab of offenders? Indeed, when the club start taking lectures from a former MP forced to apologise during the expenses scandal then it really is time to give up. Edited January 5, 2015 by Wozzer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 If the board vote 2-2..I guess its up to SC? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Latics_Fanatic Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 If the board vote 2-2..I guess its up to SC? Doesn't it go to deadlock and the public vote? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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