disjointed Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 After a :censored: day at work, frequently punctuated by unwitty comments from gloating imbeciles, I am struggling to comprehend how a small group of fairly successful businessmen could actually sit down and agree that this was a good idea. For christs sake it was plainly obvious the :censored:storm would erupt once this was announced, and to think these people are in charge of our football club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChaddySmoker Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 £200,000 a season. I wonder when and how that gets paid. I think if you check back that it might have been worded as 'Up to £1M over 5 years.' Thats Doublespeak for less than £200K per annum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slystallone Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 (edited) As LeeSinnott and Pukka say, how is this rolling into a 3rd Day? And from Beags multiple choice; i'd need a 5th box: all of the above. Its a real head mess this. I've run the whole gammet of emotions. Whilst still being opposed to signing CE; my main emotions today as this whole sorry mess is dragged out for all & sundry to see are one's of anger towards club officials and seniors for their huge part in all this, and embarrassment of my club. We've been shown to be naieve, amateurish, tin pot and plain stupid in all this - and i'm genuinely gutted at the club i support having got themselves into this situation. "They" should never have even entertained the thought of signing CE, let alone follow through on it. The apparent U-turn (whilst it's what I want) has only shown them to be even more incompetent than than appeared yesterday. Its a shambles. An utter shambles this, and it rolls into a 3rd day at the circus... Edited January 5, 2015 by slystallone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
underdog Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 Totally agree, I suppose this is then down to the playershare committee and possibly all contributors. I can understand why playershare would be effected, but I beg can we please discuss this if it is true that this player has signed. The reason why I am asking is that I need to check as I can't remember if we have made a donation for George outright to cover Until the end of the season, or we have partially funded and made forecast made on the regular monthly contributors to cover. If fans are considering withdrawing their support of this scheme with regards to monthly donations, then the committee will need to look at the impact. Thanks for your input .What a bloody mess eh... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 The vast, vast majority of managers choose the staff that they manage. There's a damn good reason why. Not vast I feel, in my organisation there were many office moves with staff shunted to different departments over several years, some managers didn't want the staff foisted on them, sometimes the staff didn't want to work for them. I'm sure however LJ will do the best he can under the circumstances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kusunga_Is_God Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 A decision needs to be reached asap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBlueNoodle Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 My personal opinion:Evans has been released from prison and allowed to reintegrate with society because in the laws eyes, he is no longer a danger to it. For me, he should be free to resume his career in his chosen profession; this case being football. On the other hand, I don't want him anywhere near this football club. This makes me a hypocrite. If there's one thing I hate it's hypocrites, and it's the club's/board's fault for making me feel like this, and spending 32 hours questioning my own morals.Why did we need to go anywhere near this? We do not need this horrendous publicity at the moment, halfway through a season that was suppose to transform us from the humdrum of league one into a very decent side with a fantastic young manager and some real prospects on and off the pitch. After all this, I cant see us not signing Evans. In another field is this; Evan's case for his appeal is going through the courts as we all sit here discussing and could take potentially 35 weeks to come to a resolution. If we sign him and he fires in 20 goals between now and the end of the season and we reach the playoff final AND he wins his appeal, how are we all going to feel then? Having spoken about him in such disdain and hatred, and then finding out the guy was completely innocent, and you stayed away from a promotion winning team because of your prejudice towards a man who was wrong accused? Flip it again; if he fires in 20 goals between now and the end of the season and has his case thrown out because he was guilty after all, how are the other half going to feel? You'd have been cheering for a man who was justly punished for the grave crime he committed. To sum it up, the only feeling I have right now is anger. Anger towards the club for bringing us into the spotlight when we could have just very easily stayed out of it, and had nothing to do with it, just like we said we were going to do at the start of December.tl;dr - Damn you to the Oldham Board for making me question my morals as a football supporter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
underdog Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 BBC local news is ace..we still play at boundary park and we are a top flight club I know and they show players training with mark Oxley in it too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chaplain Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 What an headline for SC to wake up to in New York (assuming he's still there). http://edition.cnn.com/2015/01/05/football/football-ched-evans-oldham/ Yes I would be shocked too. "Fourth-tier Oldham Athletic" ? Shocking! By the way I think the URL needs a www in order to work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
De_La_Vega Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 Agree that this waiting is an absolute shambles. At least if the club had announced it and just followed through they could have appealed to a sense of principle, second chances, rehabilitation and so on. Then every fan would have had a choice to make. By doing this we just look like sneaky opportunists who had a punt in the hope that people had got it out of their systems with Sheff Utd. So not only do we look trashy, we also alienate fans. Magic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 Yes I would be shocked too. "Fourth-tier Oldham Athletic" ? Shocking! By the way I think the URL needs a www in order to work. Strange, works when I try it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
24hoursfromtulsehill Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 Totally agree, I suppose this is then down to the playershare committee and possibly all contributors. I agree. All regular contributors is doable if we get a roll, otherwise it'll be the committee. It'll make a stronger statement than people leaving individually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeP Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 (edited) Wasn't impressed with Craig Verlin choosing to appear on TV to say pulling out no class but then again none of this has. Can all be done quietly and directly.As for gutters never in a million years would I use them and do buy a few. Cheap publicity... Significant main sponsor you are having a laugh. Got to admit, I thought the same. Didn't even know what their line of business was until today. Edited January 5, 2015 by JoeP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 Should have introduced pay per click to guests Ackey, would have made a fortune. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave_ragg1984 Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 My personal opinion: Evans has been released from prison and allowed to reintegrate with society because in the laws eyes, he is no longer a danger to it. For me, he should be free to resume his career in his chosen profession; this case being football. On the other hand, I don't want him anywhere near this football club. This makes me a hypocrite. If there's one thing I hate it's hypocrites, and it's the club's/board's fault for making me feel like this, and spending 32 hours questioning my own morals. Why did we need to go anywhere near this? We do not need this horrendous publicity at the moment, halfway through a season that was suppose to transform us from the humdrum of league one into a very decent side with a fantastic young manager and some real prospects on and off the pitch. After all this, I cant see us not signing Evans. In another field is this; Evan's case for his appeal is going through the courts as we all sit here discussing and could take potentially 35 weeks to come to a resolution. If we sign him and he fires in 20 goals between now and the end of the season and we reach the playoff final AND he wins his appeal, how are we all going to feel then? Having spoken about him in such disdain and hatred, and then finding out the guy was completely innocent, and you stayed away from a promotion winning team because of your prejudice towards a man who was wrong accused? Flip it again; if he fires in 20 goals between now and the end of the season and has his case thrown out because he was guilty after all, how are the other half going to feel? You'd have been cheering for a man who was justly punished for the grave crime he committed. To sum it up, the only feeling I have right now is anger. Anger towards the club for bringing us into the spotlight when we could have just very easily stayed out of it, and had nothing to do with it, just like we said we were going to do at the start of December. tl;dr - Damn you to the Oldham Board for making me question my morals as a football supporter Flip it another way... He's crap, and this whole sorry affair has such a bad effect on the club that we drop like a stone. The resentment that could cause could be catastrophic for the club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkeykieran Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 BBC local news is ace..we still play at boundary park and we are a top flight club Yeah just noticed that. Haha I might actually come on Saturday for the first time in about 4 months Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
disjointed Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 I agree. All regular contributors is doable if we get a roll, otherwise it'll be the committee. It'll make a stronger statement than people leaving individually. I suppose a full playershare package withdrawn would have a larger impact, whether we can do this in time before a decision is made on Evans I dont know, also there are contributors who would still back the scheme even if he signs, all about democratic process. What a feckin mess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
underdog Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 Fame just around that bend. ;-) Swine and you could probably see me wobbling from around the next corner now too..heheh. I need some normality so will be logging out to see if Wimbledon can kick let's scousers arses... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 (edited) A few sponsorships such as mecca bingo have confirmed they will drop out if Ched Evans signs Many sponsors though have kept their peace; It would be interesting if the Chron pulled the plug. http://www.oldhamathletic.co.uk/commercial/club_partners/index.aspx Edited January 5, 2015 by BP1960 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkeykieran Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 Each to their own, but Id sign Ched. Doesnt mean I support rape, or indeed him as a person. Most of the country seem to get these things mixed up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnthonyOAFC Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 Yeah just noticed that. Haha I might actually come on Saturday for the first time in about 4 months I'll be there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 I'll be there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueJazzer Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 Having read his own take on how the night panned out - under i think the 'key facts' banner on the left hand side of the page, his own defence; paints him as a horrendous human being. . Jesus. Hands up all those who have NEVER been out on the piss and trapped off with a girl, who has also had a drink, and ended up having sex with them at some location or other. Anyone? Cos apparently, if you have then your a godamn dirty rapist! And on that point, I know we have female members, so ask yourselves have you ever slept with a bloke after a few drinks? Well that's ok, because apparently this never ever happens so you can just erase it from your mind and pretend it never happened. I've got to be honest, I was gutted when the story first broke so I looked it up. I've looked at as much stuff on the Internet as I can, including his own website, and I have to say, how he was ever convicted is beyond me. And if he had been a plumber or suchlike it would have probably been thrown out. Just my opinion........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Latics_Fanatic Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 What was the reaction to Coventry signing Marlon King after he was released from prison for sexual assault? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
underdog Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 I suppose a full playershare package withdrawn would have a larger impact, whether we can do this in time before a decision is made on Evans I dont know, also there are contributors who would still back the scheme even if he signs, all about democratic process. What a feckin mess. Would it make any difference that I will stick with my original convictions of resigning from playershare and trust oldham if this player does sign, rather than loose your contribution? Not that I'm worth much but making a small but hopefully meaningful stance? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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