Chaddy_Ender Posted December 13, 2014 Share Posted December 13, 2014 Loving this system its worked so well for us this season. Where we doing our bit for charity today ? Tinkering at its finest today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted December 13, 2014 Share Posted December 13, 2014 I thought the players were supposed to be well drilled in these systems? they looked liked complete strangers and Dieng in front if them looked like a rabbit caught in headlights. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Latics_Fanatic Posted December 13, 2014 Share Posted December 13, 2014 Has 3-5-2 worked for anyone bar teams at the world cup? Got a mate who's a Dale fan, he said they played it first 6 games and were 19th, much improved since binning it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brierleys555 Posted December 13, 2014 Share Posted December 13, 2014 awful today. LJ messing around with the team. I thought those days were over. worst iv'e seen since first half v posh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dec666 Posted December 13, 2014 Share Posted December 13, 2014 It isn't 3 at the back, it's 5. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted December 13, 2014 Share Posted December 13, 2014 (edited) 6 today if you count Dieng about a yard in front if them. Edited December 13, 2014 by BP1960 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
opinions4u Posted December 13, 2014 Share Posted December 13, 2014 It isn't 3 at the back, it's 5. Well here is your problem. Just what the hell was that formation? The personnel that started are good enough to play the 3-5-2 game. But B Wilson and Mills both played as wide midfielders, neither bombing on or defending. This freed up Yeovil players to exploit the space around the back three. An additional problem was that we had three ineffective front men. Johnson offered little as a midfielder so in reality we had a 3-4-3 formation. The 4 was the widest diamond I've ever seen on a football pitch. So we were piss easy to pass through leaving Dieng over-run. I was sticking up for the manager and his formation choice earlier. If it had been a swashbuckling 3-5-2 it might have worked. But Johnson's free role and the lack of contribution from the wing-backs offensively or defensively left the midfield undermanned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaddy_Ender Posted December 13, 2014 Author Share Posted December 13, 2014 Well here is your problem. Just what the hell was that formation? The personnel that started are good enough to play the 3-5-2 game. But B Wilson and Mills both played as wide midfielders, neither bombing on or defending. This freed up Yeovil players to exploit the space around the back three. An additional problem was that we had three ineffective front men. Johnson offered little as a midfielder so in reality we had a 3-4-3 formation. The 4 was the widest diamond I've ever seen on a football pitch. So we were piss easy to pass through leaving Dieng over-run. I was sticking up for the manager and his formation choice earlier. If it had been a swashbuckling 3-5-2 it might have worked. But Johnson's free role and the lack of contribution from the wing-backs offensively or defensively left the midfield undermanned. You make some really good points and Im in total agreement, for a 3-5-2 to work ypu need 3 very strong midfielders but it was more of the diamond 4 on a back 5 and if Philly and Johnson are part of the 4 your going to get exploited, Jones and Dieng where fighting a losing battle. Teams have now worked us out they press high up the pitch putting pressure on Kasunga and Elokobi and it leaves us exposed as they give the ball up far to easily, thought Donny was bad but at least we showed some endevour down the wings, today was very hard to understand from start to finish its a complete head scratcher. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_mighty_bosh Posted December 13, 2014 Share Posted December 13, 2014 I think 3-5-2 can work if you've got energetic and disciplined wing-backs, defenders who understand the positioning of playing in a back 3 and a team that looking to be organised first and maybe attack if they get the chance. Why we played it in a match like today I have no idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rvlatic Posted December 13, 2014 Share Posted December 13, 2014 Nooooooooooooooooooooooooo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAC0AFC Posted December 13, 2014 Share Posted December 13, 2014 scrap it, burn it, spit on it... do whatever the fck you want with it aslong as we don't see it at boundary park ever again! ive never liked it and never will, even some of the top teams in Europe struggle with it when they try centre halves aren't used to playing as a 3, they like to know who's dropping off, who's going up for the header and who's marking who... as a 3 they just never know who's responsible for who and end up blaming each other they genuinely didn't have a clue who was at fault for the second, kusunga should have done better but Wilson and elokobi were marking each other leaving loads of space in the middle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy_Fent Posted December 14, 2014 Share Posted December 14, 2014 When I think of 3 at the back I think of a back line of Garnett, Hotte and Paul Jones get destroyed by fast forwards in the 00/01 season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nzlatic Posted December 15, 2014 Share Posted December 15, 2014 I'd say the biggest mistake in going for a back 3 was not having players in it that could move forward if it wasn't working. ie having Dieng in the 3 so he can go central mid if we go back to a back 4. Or Jones at RWB so he can move forward and then Kusunga to RB. Obviously wouldn't have been the best place to start Jones, that was just an example, but we had 5 defenders starting with none of them capable of playing in midfield should a change be required. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Sinnott Posted December 15, 2014 Share Posted December 15, 2014 When I think of 3 at the back I think of a back line of Garnett, Hotte and Paul Jones get destroyed by fast forwards in the 00/01 season Or Hill, Hall and Baudet/Beharall in our playoff season... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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