rudemedic Posted March 2, 2015 Share Posted March 2, 2015 I did think that some form of price guarantee would work, buy a ST next season, that's the MOST you pay for 10 years. Those who don't want a ST next season can pay £20 for the same guarantee but that includes next year, the people who paid £20 might be given cup seat priority over the general public too. The only way ST prices won't go up in the next 10 years would be if we got relegated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
opinions4u Posted March 2, 2015 Share Posted March 2, 2015 (edited) I'm pretty sure if there were £100 tickets there'd be a riot when cup tickets went on sale. 7000 ST holders, 6000 tickets...who gets first dibs? Premium season tickets £150 get a 48 hour window. Limited to 2,000 (any stand). Embossed with a gold stripe. Includes free admission to youth fixtures and a range of money off vouchers at Sports Direct.. Economy season tickets £100 get next priority if they can produce a voucher dished out from the first three home league games and any JPT / League Cup game at BP. Finally priority to those holding a season ticket without matchday vouchers. Edited March 2, 2015 by opinions4u Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickjagger Posted March 2, 2015 Share Posted March 2, 2015 One of the stay away fans, due to circumstances & also said would not go on a regular basis, until the new stand was built.. Two £100 season tickets for me please Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josh_latics Posted March 2, 2015 Share Posted March 2, 2015 Premium season tickets £150 get a 48 hour window. Limited to 2,000 (any stand). Embossed with a gold stripe. Includes free admission to youth fixtures and a range of money off vouchers at Sports Direct.. Economy season tickets £100 get next priority if they can produce a voucher dished out from the first three home league games and any JPT / League Cup game at BP. Finally priority to those holding a season ticket without matchday vouchers. Give that man a job! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kowenicki Posted March 2, 2015 Share Posted March 2, 2015 it cant be done on a full price that gets dicounted when the numbers incresse... that wont work. People wont commit to it. It has to be done the opposite way. So it starts at £100 and gets more expensive if the numbers taken up aren't high enough. BUT you would have to allow people to back out should it get too high. So someone can commit knowing they wont have to pay more than £100 if they dont want to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
real Posted March 2, 2015 Share Posted March 2, 2015 2400 x 330 (?) = £790k 500 x £20 x 23 games = £230k (assuming we are getting about 2900 home fans + away on top) Total home revenue £1020k So, at £100 we'd need 10,000 fans to match revenue. We'd pick up a bit more in food/beer/programme/strike it lucky though. 10,000 would also exhaust all the home fans - no pay on the day at all I'd suggest. At £200 we'd need 5000 - that seems doable to me. £250 would need 4000 ; £290 needs 3500. I'd suggest £230 for 13 games - if we sell 5000 or more it covers all games, at just £10 per game. (revenue £1035k) If we sell 4500 it covers 18 games, the other 5 are £30 ; At 4000 it's 16 games, the other 7 for £50. If we don't sell enough to meet any of the above, the extra 10 games can be had for £100. All the add on-tickets apply if bought before the end of November. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aarondo Westy Posted March 2, 2015 Author Share Posted March 2, 2015 Is the obvious solution to this not the same as any tenant and landlord contract where the deposit is stored until both parties are happy with the amount to return at the end of the contract. So in this principle a website is used where you put £100 and if 8,000 people sign up then the money is released to Oldham athletic buying you a season ticket. if by a set date we don't have 8,000 people then the money is just refunded back to your account.. then at least there is a safe way of lowering the price and knowing how many people have signed up?Top idea get on to it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewBlue Posted March 2, 2015 Share Posted March 2, 2015 (edited) Having had a think about this idea since the interview I've realised that Corney only said it because it would never happen. At this moment in time, there is absolutely no chance we would attract 7000 fans to get STs at almost any 'profitable' price. At £100 we'd be lucky to get 5000 ST holders. Edited March 2, 2015 by NewBlue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
opinions4u Posted March 2, 2015 Share Posted March 2, 2015 Having had a think about this idea since the interview I've realised that Corney only said it because it would never happen. At this moment in time, there is absolutely no chance we would attract 7000 fans to get STs at almost any 'profitable' price. At £100 we'd be lucky to get 5000 ST holders. They will lose money in season one. Hence the suggestion I made about finding a sponsor to underwrite it. But if a decent proportion renew at £350 in season two it could be a decent earner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickjagger Posted March 2, 2015 Share Posted March 2, 2015 How many did Bradford increase season ticket sales by, when they did a similar thing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue_Guru Posted March 2, 2015 Share Posted March 2, 2015 Having had a think about this idea since the interview I've realised that Corney only said it because it would never happen. At this moment in time, there is absolutely no chance we would attract 7000 fans to get STs at almost any 'profitable' price. At £100 we'd be lucky to get 5000 ST holders. We have 3500 ST fans at the minute paying an average of what £300? (Not sure what number are children/OAP's) It would make financial sense if every season ticket holder bought 2 season tickets as they would cost them £200 total and they could use the 2nd to bring friends an family along! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
opinions4u Posted March 2, 2015 Share Posted March 2, 2015 Give that man a job! I've only solved the big match prioritisation problem. Flogging 7,000 is the real challenge! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
disjointed Posted March 2, 2015 Share Posted March 2, 2015 2400 x 330 (?) = £790k 500 x £20 x 23 games = £230k (assuming we are getting about 2900 home fans + away on top) Total home revenue £1020k So, at £100 we'd need 10,000 fans to match revenue. We'd pick up a bit more in food/beer/programme/strike it lucky though. 10,000 would also exhaust all the home fans - no pay on the day at all I'd suggest. At £200 we'd need 5000 - that seems doable to me. £250 would need 4000 ; £290 needs 3500. I'd suggest £230 for 13 games - if we sell 5000 or more it covers all games, at just £10 per game. (revenue £1035k) If we sell 4500 it covers 18 games, the other 5 are £30 ; At 4000 it's 16 games, the other 7 for £50. If we don't sell enough to meet any of the above, the extra 10 games can be had for £100. All the add on-tickets apply if bought before the end of November. A lot of the ST holders at present are not paying £330, you have OAP's and U16 ST's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue_Guru Posted March 2, 2015 Share Posted March 2, 2015 Is the obvious solution to this not the same as any tenant and landlord contract where the deposit is stored until both parties are happy with the amount to return at the end of the contract. So in this principle a website is used where you put £100 and if 8,000 people sign up then the money is released to Oldham athletic buying you a season ticket. if by a set date we don't have 8,000 people then the money is just refunded back to your account.. then at least there is a safe way of lowering the price and knowing how many people have signed up? Problem is that when do you have the cut off date and what happens if the majority pull out? Hard for them to plan income until possibly too late? Would have to be done well in advance of normal IMO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
opinions4u Posted March 2, 2015 Share Posted March 2, 2015 We have 3500 ST fans I believe it's under 2,500. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewBlue Posted March 2, 2015 Share Posted March 2, 2015 We have 3500 ST fans at the minute paying an average of what £300? (Not sure what number are children/OAP's) It would make financial sense if every season ticket holder bought 2 season tickets as they would cost them £200 total and they could use the 2nd to bring friends an family along! We have 2400ish STs. And that wouldn't happen though. Most fans just wouldn't buy two STs when they could have one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aarondo Westy Posted March 2, 2015 Author Share Posted March 2, 2015 I believe it's under 2,500. Corney said 2400 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
disjointed Posted March 2, 2015 Share Posted March 2, 2015 How many did Bradford increase season ticket sales by, when they did a similar thing? Bradford to be fair have a much larger fanbase in terms of geographical location and nearby Premier league clubs. Also the Bradford ST policy is a bit complicated there are different types of ST's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue_Guru Posted March 2, 2015 Share Posted March 2, 2015 Corney said 2400 Hmm fair point...so 7,000 is still the difficult number...I'm sure if there was a way the club could guarantee £100 and it was touted to every man an his dog with new manager new stand new hope advertising we could just about scrape it...those paying £330 currently might be encouraged to help a struggling oafc fan/mate out with £50 towards one! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjk2008 Posted March 2, 2015 Share Posted March 2, 2015 Convincing Paul Scholes may play a part in getting to 7k+. Even Dowie to an extent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josh_latics Posted March 2, 2015 Share Posted March 2, 2015 What about a 2 year ticket option at £400 or something? Or a 10 year ticket in the new stand (for those who can afford it) like Wembley did? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt60 Posted March 2, 2015 Share Posted March 2, 2015 Problem is that when do you have the cut off date and what happens if the majority pull out? Hard for them to plan income until possibly too late? Would have to be done well in advance of normal IMO Well that would be the point of the contract, you are saying £100 will be given to Oldham once over 8000 people sign up and only when this figure isn't achieved by say the end of this season will your money be returned. I would say between now and end of the season would be adequate time then if it is not achieved, people will have the money returned and we will just go back to normal way of buying a season ticket in the closed season.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aarondo Westy Posted March 2, 2015 Author Share Posted March 2, 2015 Hmm fair point...so 7,000 is still the difficult number...I'm sure if there was a way the club could guarantee £100 and it was touted to every man an his dog with new manager new stand new hope advertising we could just about scrape it...those paying £330 currently might be encouraged to help a struggling oafc fan/mate out with £50 towards one! I think it's defiantly a possibility To sell 7000 without question. If it's done the right way, maybe the council could help out advertising in all council buildings or building a package along with things like gym memberships. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickjagger Posted March 2, 2015 Share Posted March 2, 2015 In fact i would buy two & also buy two more and donate them to children to encourage younger supporters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doggy_oafc Posted March 2, 2015 Share Posted March 2, 2015 I've never had a season ticket through not living in the area and work but I would 100% buy one if they cost £100. 100% Woof. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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