kowenicki'smoustache Posted July 30, 2015 Share Posted July 30, 2015 It strikes me that a big problem for some people regarding Darren Kelly is that he has so little playing experience at a decent level. He has good coaching badges and he isn't the first young former player to get an early chance at management. I will give him time and I hope the board do too. Joe Royle (although clearly a better player) got plenty of time. He needed it before he achieved success. There are plenty of others who have gone into management with little or no experience of playing at a high level. I'm not for a moment suggesting that DK will achieve what some of these have, but if he doesn't get a chance... Graham Taylor Gerard Houllier Jose Mourhino Brendan Rodgers Sven Goran Eriksen Arsene Wenger Andre Villas-Boas Roy Hodgeson Have a look at their achievements. I look forward to the long, long list of inexperienced failures! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveycrow Posted July 30, 2015 Share Posted July 30, 2015 Eddie Howe has done ok, I would be happy with his level of achievement Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyleArmy1994 Posted July 30, 2015 Share Posted July 30, 2015 Amen to that. DK should be given a chance ffs! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlayItLivo Posted July 30, 2015 Share Posted July 30, 2015 We're any of those coaching an u12s team immediately prior to getting their first crack at professional first team management? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kowenicki'smoustache Posted July 30, 2015 Author Share Posted July 30, 2015 Some hadn't coached anybody of any age professionally... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueMink Posted July 30, 2015 Share Posted July 30, 2015 Laurie MacNemeny! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archiecat Posted July 30, 2015 Share Posted July 30, 2015 Laurie MacNemeny! That's easy for you to say Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted July 30, 2015 Share Posted July 30, 2015 This could be you; http://metro.co.uk/2012/11/22/baku-fc-name-21-year-old-as-manager-based-on-computer-game-experience-540867/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forte_Baby Posted July 30, 2015 Share Posted July 30, 2015 You could also say just how many managers who have been Number 2's or head coaches but when it comes to overall management have struggled to cut it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlossopLatic Posted July 30, 2015 Share Posted July 30, 2015 Don't forget that Nigel Adkins was just a physio. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
palmer1 Posted July 30, 2015 Share Posted July 30, 2015 (edited) Lee Johnson! 3 years ago he was barely working, scraping by earning a living as an elf in the seedy underworld of the Santa's grotto scene around December time only.Banging on about his 25 days to Christmas plan he had... Look at him now in Yorkshire where they already don't like him but at least nobody likes him all year round. Not just at Christmas... What a success story! Edited July 30, 2015 by palmer1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted July 30, 2015 Share Posted July 30, 2015 Don't forget that Nigel Adkins was just a physio. As was Les Parry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafcmetty Posted July 31, 2015 Share Posted July 31, 2015 It strikes me that a big problem for some people regarding Darren Kelly is that he has so little playing experience at a decent level. He has good coaching badges and he isn't the first young former player to get an early chance at management. I will give him time and I hope the board do too. Joe Royle (although clearly a better player) got plenty of time. He needed it before he achieved success. There are plenty of others who have gone into management with little or no experience of playing at a high level. I'm not for a moment suggesting that DK will achieve what some of these have, but if he doesn't get a chance... Graham Taylor Gerard Houllier Jose Mourhino Brendan Rodgers Sven Goran Eriksen Arsene Wenger Andre Villas-Boas Roy Hodgeson Have a look at their achievements. I look forward to the long, long list of inexperienced failures! Hi Darren! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankly Mr Shankly Posted July 31, 2015 Share Posted July 31, 2015 Don't forget that Nigel Adkins was just a physio. Not strictly true. He racked up over 200 appearances as a lower league goalkeeper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevesidg Posted July 31, 2015 Share Posted July 31, 2015 (edited) Not strictly true. He racked up over 200 appearances as a lower league goalkeeper. He started his managerial career at Bangor City where he was for 3 years winning the league of Wales twice when his playing days ended. Edited July 31, 2015 by stevesidg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimsleftfoot Posted July 31, 2015 Share Posted July 31, 2015 Sir Clive Woodward did pretty well for someone who worked at Xerox. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted July 31, 2015 Share Posted July 31, 2015 Sir Clive Woodward did pretty well for someone who worked at Xerox. Many have copied him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beag_teeets Posted July 31, 2015 Share Posted July 31, 2015 Many have copied him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsslatic Posted July 31, 2015 Share Posted July 31, 2015 Many have copied him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeslover Posted July 31, 2015 Share Posted July 31, 2015 Sir Clive Woodward did pretty well for someone who worked at Xerox.After a career with Leicester, England and the Lions Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singe Posted July 31, 2015 Share Posted July 31, 2015 So, apart from top level sucesses, and you may as well include alex Feguson in that list. What about at our level or just below. Surely for every sucess there are hundreds of Les Parrys' and Martin Grays'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc_lover Posted July 31, 2015 Share Posted July 31, 2015 Many have copied him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeslover Posted July 31, 2015 Share Posted July 31, 2015 So, apart from top level sucesses, and you may as well include alex Feguson in that list. What about at our level or just below. Top scorer for the season at Rangers when they existed. Career ruined by marrying a Catholic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kowenicki'smoustache Posted July 31, 2015 Author Share Posted July 31, 2015 Hi Darren! Rumbled, so I am... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scapegoat Posted July 31, 2015 Share Posted July 31, 2015 There are lots of people on here that have never played football at any recognisable level and have no qualifications who are qualified to make detailed technical analysis of our players, performances and tactics. Not sure that there is any blue print that will guarantee success in football management. Plenty of players of exceptionally high ability and experience have gone into football management and failed. I do wonder if the increase in the UEFA coaching badges has any influence on success or not as it is something that our board seem to value. Do managers with the badge have a more success than those without overall statistically? Its something I'd imagine the people pushing the courses would be keen to show. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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