melia Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 Something isn't right Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryBosch Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 (edited) Edited August 3, 2015 by HarryBosch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewBlue Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 The Art of to Score: The Darren Kelly Football Philosophy Available in all good book shops Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SavageTheBeast Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 I wonder how his 738 page dossier is doing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singe Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 I wonder how his 738 page dossier is doing? Darren Kelly asked for it back. There are some under 9's jobs coming up.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kusunga_Is_God Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAC0AFC Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 (edited) Darren Kelly asked for it back. There are some under 9's jobs coming up.... You mean he doesn't have two copy's of his dossier? Johnson Out. Edit. :censored: I mean Kelly out. Edited August 3, 2015 by MAC0AFC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singe Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 Suprised at this, howeverclearly Kelly knows his plans have not worked pre season and is acting now rather than a couple games or month or so into the season. I am not sure how an of that is down to the Scout. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forte_Baby Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 (edited) i'll have to think about that. Makes a change from hearing people saying Cringeworthy which has crept it's way into football. Edited August 3, 2015 by Forte_Baby Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chorlton_Latic Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 So, David Dunn 'join's as a player (for now)' and all of a sudden there's a vacancy for a coaching spot? Might as well. Could give him the 'vital experience' he needs for when he replaces Kelly in about 2 weeks... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twisbrogan Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 I am not sure how an of that is down to the Scout. He wasn't a scout. Been on the sidelines in every game and involved in the training sessions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghostofcecere Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 I reckon this has happened because our man with responsibility for recruitment has failed to find us a decent centre half this summer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeslover Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 Am I the only one that is sick of hearing the word philosophy? Aye, two degrees in the :censored:er and I still can't pronounce it. I can say cryptopsychoepiphenomenology if you like. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hands on Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 Much of the disquiet, much of mine, on here is that despite keeping the players we all wanted to keep there has been, until today, difficulty finding a centre back who is or even might one day be fully match fit. The young lad we now have until 1 January is probably the result of contacts our manager has and is only a stop gap - if he succeeds he'll be off to somewhere else, if he is adequate he will probably be asked to stay longer. So the "scouting and recruitment consultant" has gone and given his job and performance who can be surprised at that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevie_J Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 Much of the disquiet, much of mine, on here is that despite keeping the players we all wanted to keep there has been, until today, difficulty finding a centre back who is or even might one day be fully match fit. The young lad we now have until 1 January is probably the result of contacts our manager has and is only a stop gap - if he succeeds he'll be off to somewhere else, if he is adequate he will probably be asked to stay longer. So the "scouting and recruitment consultant" has gone and given his job and performance who can be surprised at that. I tend to assume that any manager will look to build their backroom team from people they know and trust. To be parting ways with one of them so soon is odd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singe Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 (edited) He wasn't a scout. Been on the sidelines in every game and involved in the training sessions. He was, he might have been doing other stuff given his experience, but he was a scout. They can't get rid for the other stuff, and anyway it's still the managers call whether to accept the advice. Maybe, his contacts simply proved fruitless. Worth recalling what was said when he was recruited. He was also manager at Froest green during their headier days and in theory we'd tap into the non league knowledge and pick up gems. Not to be, Here's what was said at his appointment. "I've been in football for over 40 years and I have a lot of contacts and friends Read more at http://www.oldhamathletic.co.uk/news/article/harvey-appointed-to-coaching-staff-2477741.aspx#Ghhkuw6VK7oulwqP.99 Edited August 3, 2015 by singe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc1955 Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 He wasn't a scout. Been on the sidelines in every game and involved in the training sessions. Yes he was.....full title was scouting and recruitment consultant. I would expect most of the back room staff to be on the bench. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 (edited) At my age I won't be scouting for the club on the payroll. I did say to DK though I would pass on any emerging talent I spot as I will still take in a few non league matches as well as regularly watching the Latics. BTW although not one of my recomendations Burn does fit into the same philosophy as the manager's, as hes quite similar to one on my list Cameron Burgess. Edited August 3, 2015 by BP1960 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryBosch Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 I tend to assume that any manager will look to build their backroom team from people they know and trust. To be parting ways with one of them so soon is odd. I don't think Lee Johnson knew Tommy Wright.... We always assume managers look first to bring in people they know but maybe it's not always the case.... (and nor should it be) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twisbrogan Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 Yes he was.....full title was scouting and recruitment consultant. I would expect most of the back room staff to be on the bench. I don't care what title he had, he was taking training sessions. Wouldn't you expect a scout/ head of recruitment to be absolutely anywhere else on a match day than on his own teams bench? Say, watching other teams or players? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsslatic Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 Philosophy. Diligence. FFS. Repeat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsslatic Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 I don't care what title he had, he was taking training sessions. Wouldn't you expect a scout/ head of recruitment to be absolutely anywhere else on a match day than on his own teams bench? Say, watching other teams or players? 'Here, gaffer, I like the look of that Winchester.' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OAFCKeepTheFaith Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 Brian Horton was sat with Alan Hardy at Blackburn friendly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryBosch Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 Brian Horton was sat with Alan Hardy at Blackburn friendly. The World's Best (Unemployed) Assistant Manager. Hallelujah. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lookersstandandy Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 I don't think Lee Johnson knew Tommy Wright.... He'd met/worked with him briefly when on load at Chesterfield. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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