philliggi Posted November 27, 2015 Share Posted November 27, 2015 Why? What will happen? If a large proportion of people are united in a concerted effort to rid them from the club and put pressure in the right places things get done. Granted there would be no guarantee of results but imo any effort on our part is a damp site better than the apathy which engulfs the club at the minute. I'm amazed there have been no shouts for heads to role aimed at the directors box this season, but I guess that just shows the apathy we have accepted as the norm. Gone are the days of sit in pitch protests and masses congregating on sheepfold lane. No one can be arsed these days which is sad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deyres42 Posted November 27, 2015 Share Posted November 27, 2015 If a large proportion of people are united in a concerted effort to rid them from the club and put pressure in the right places things get done. Granted there would be no guarantee of results but imo any effort on our part is a damp site better than the apathy which engulfs the club at the minute. I'm amazed there have been no shouts for heads to role aimed at the directors box this season, but I guess that just shows the apathy we have accepted as the norm. Gone are the days of sit in pitch protests and masses congregating on sheepfold lane. No one can be arsed these days which is sad What's the point? They haven't built a new stand and created a new events company just to walk away from it. We just have to sit tight for a few years until they've recouped enough money back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singe Posted November 27, 2015 Share Posted November 27, 2015 The sooner the masses see that tta bought the club to asset strip the better. So much land has been sold off and a large proportion of the North stand revenue will not benefit oafc it will go to oec and in turn brass bank. They are not concerned with how well oafc do on the pitch as they are making their money out of us elsewhere. Corney and Co are like a dry rot and it set in many years ago. It seems only now are more starting to see it. They must go Assest strippers don't take a decade to do it. Has the £6m not benefitted OAFC? Don't begrudge them trying to make some of it back, they have no other chance. aS long as it goes to replace or is a revenue stream. Plus we don't know the finance, have they invested further to get the stand built? I have no problem them going, but not at all costs. A viable owner must be in position to replace them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singe Posted November 27, 2015 Share Posted November 27, 2015 If a large proportion of people are united in a concerted effort to rid them from the club and put pressure in the right places things get done. Granted there would be no guarantee of results but imo any effort on our part is a damp site better than the apathy which engulfs the club at the minute. I'm amazed there have been no shouts for heads to role aimed at the directors box this season, but I guess that just shows the apathy we have accepted as the norm. Gone are the days of sit in pitch protests and masses congregating on sheepfold lane. No one can be arsed these days which is sad If someone viable was there to replace them or they had done an Oyston then heads would be called for. We'd be in freefall if we just sacked the board. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philliggi Posted November 27, 2015 Share Posted November 27, 2015 Do you not see this as free fall? No doubt about it we will be relegated with this form. Yet we were play off contenders last year. It's only one step behind what tranmere did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghostofcecere Posted November 27, 2015 Share Posted November 27, 2015 Please nobody sing sack the board........ you can't sack a board. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philliggi Posted November 27, 2015 Share Posted November 27, 2015 How about "Get out of our club" Will that do for ya Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChaddySmoker Posted November 28, 2015 Share Posted November 28, 2015 (edited) Assest strippers don't take a decade to do it. Has the £6m not benefitted OAFC? Don't begrudge them trying to make some of it back, they have no other chance. aS long as it goes to replace or is a revenue stream. Plus we don't know the finance, have they invested further to get the stand built? I have no problem them going, but not at all costs. A viable owner must be in position to replace them. There will be more chance of viable owners coming forward the crapper we become since the asking price is falling like a stone this season Edited November 28, 2015 by ChaddySmoker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted November 28, 2015 Share Posted November 28, 2015 There will be more chance of viable owners coming forward they crapper we become since the asking price is falling like a stone this season What price has it dropped to? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChaddySmoker Posted November 28, 2015 Share Posted November 28, 2015 What price has it dropped to? For a loss making business excluding the land and ground (+ OEC Ltd) probably Zero For a loss making business including the ground but no land, a couple of million For a loss making business including everything they would be lucky to get much more than £5M. The problem is that they will be looking for well over £10M IF they want their money back. Obviously this OEC Ltd complicates the matter and affects the price but a deal should be possible. The whole situation really depends on how any owner could turn the loss making business into a profitable one-never easy in football Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monty Burns Posted November 28, 2015 Share Posted November 28, 2015 There will be more chance of viable owners coming forward the crapper we become since the asking price is falling like a stone this season The asking price will not be going down based on what happens on the pitch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bozman Posted November 28, 2015 Share Posted November 28, 2015 The asking price will not be going down based on what happens on the pitch. Indeed. The value may be decreasing but the asking price isn't. If the asking price was realistic the club would have been sold within a few months of the owners deciding they wanted to sell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChaddySmoker Posted November 28, 2015 Share Posted November 28, 2015 The asking price will not be going down based on what happens on the pitch. Yes it will, Cash flow will determine that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monty Burns Posted November 28, 2015 Share Posted November 28, 2015 No, it really won't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChaddySmoker Posted November 28, 2015 Share Posted November 28, 2015 Yes it will. If you cannot see it, that is probably determined by your business experience Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueatheart Posted November 28, 2015 Share Posted November 28, 2015 Two and a half months and this thread has attracted 64 posts with the same posters doing a lot of talking. Charlton call them the 2% - at Latics it's more like the 0.02% Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longtimeblue Posted November 28, 2015 Share Posted November 28, 2015 Two and a half months and this thread has attracted 64 posts with the same posters doing a lot of talking. Charlton call them the 2% - at Latics it's more like the 0.02% It's really not Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_Og Posted November 28, 2015 Share Posted November 28, 2015 Safe to say that the normal rules of valuing a business don't apply to any football club and that here are special circumstances applying to what the owners may value this one at. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChaddySmoker Posted November 28, 2015 Share Posted November 28, 2015 Safe to say that the normal rules of valuing a business don't apply to any football club and that here are special circumstances applying to what the owners may value this one at. You are quite correct until cashflow dries up. My point was that the value of a football club decreases when the football element becomes less succesful Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_Og Posted November 28, 2015 Share Posted November 28, 2015 You are quite correct until cashflow dries up. My point was that the value of a football club decreases when the football element becomes less succesful I was sort of agreeing you and discreetly pointing out that Mr Burns may not be absolutely spot on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monty Burns Posted November 28, 2015 Share Posted November 28, 2015 Yes it will. If you cannot see it, that is probably determined by your business experience No it won't. You seem to struggle with the difference between 'value' and 'asking price'. Probably determined by your intelligence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChaddySmoker Posted November 28, 2015 Share Posted November 28, 2015 No it won't. You seem to struggle with the difference between 'value' and 'asking price'. Probably determined by your intelligence. Did it take you 4 hours to come up with that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshgaz Posted November 28, 2015 Share Posted November 28, 2015 I've always been a massive Corney fan. Not anymore. He can :censored: off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monty Burns Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 Did it take you 4 hours to come up with that? Yeah. Im constantly on owtb lookin to reply to people. This reply took me ages since I saw it 6hrs ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Villains Posted December 7, 2015 Author Share Posted December 7, 2015 cock ups....missed targets....bad appointments.....even worse appointments....no money....no land....late payment of wages.....rotten to the core.....this will still be our club long after he has made a :censored:ing pigs ear of it and left.......so what do we do?....what are the answers?...how can we make our club a viable business opportunity & a success where corn£y has so far failed?.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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