opinions4u Posted September 30, 2015 Share Posted September 30, 2015 Ok, we are tough to beat. Last night, I'm told, we created some decent chances. We also flexed the formation within the game. Get a little more coherent and those draws might just turn into wins. There's little evidence that a rookie manager who's played in the top three divisions is any worse statistically than an experienced manager who's been sacked a few times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monty Burns Posted September 30, 2015 Share Posted September 30, 2015 Much better last nite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlayItLivo Posted September 30, 2015 Share Posted September 30, 2015 (edited) With a good manager over this squad we'd be right up near the top.What have this team done or shown to make you think that? This is one of the worst squads we've had, it has relegation scrap written all over it. Edited September 30, 2015 by PlayItLivo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
opinions4u Posted September 30, 2015 Share Posted September 30, 2015 What have this team done or shown to make you think that? This is one of the worst squads we've had, it has relegation scrap written all over it. I dunno. We're unbalanced with Connor Brown at left back. Our striker options are poor, although Higdon gives us more of a presence. We've not utilised a decent set of midfielders effectively. I think there's enough there in the squad to get safely mid-table without being a managerial genius. A little bit of confidence, spark and togetherness would be an outside chance of the play-offs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafcprozac Posted September 30, 2015 Share Posted September 30, 2015 There's no will to go out and win a game we were happy with the point that equaliser was always coming it's now 1 win in 18 (20) inc the cups or going back to Valentine's Day 4 wins in 29 this squad should be doing better but they're playing within themselves there's no onfield leader and the easy sideways or backwards pass is the our only option this lot of weaklings take. Corney's reaping what he has sowed the rot set in when he took the cheap option in February Every game is Groundhog Day..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafcprozac Posted September 30, 2015 Share Posted September 30, 2015 If Holden and Dunn are still here at Christmas we'll be firmly entrenched in the bottom 4. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deyres42 Posted September 30, 2015 Share Posted September 30, 2015 If Holden and Dunn are still here at Christmas we'll be firmly entrenched in the bottom 4. A realistic target who could come in and do a better job with this squad? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
opinions4u Posted September 30, 2015 Share Posted September 30, 2015 A realistic target who could come in and do a better job with this squad? Tempted to say Shez. I think Dunn might yet get things ticking up top though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midsblue Posted September 30, 2015 Share Posted September 30, 2015 Kelly was most definitely the wrong person to lead this club. Dunn though with a seasoned head alongside him - and I mean a manager in a "director of" capacity rather than seasoned coach - would provide continuity and a long-term plan. Similar I guess to Dowie and Wadsworth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yarddog73 Posted September 30, 2015 Share Posted September 30, 2015 A realistic target who could come in and do a better job with this squad? Have a look at the original 160 applicants I'm sure theres one in there who could do a job for us, although many have fallen for Dunn he currently is worse off than Kelly was after 3 games, a new manager normally has a positive effect on a group of players but I'm struggling to see where a wins coming from in the next four or five games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yarddog73 Posted September 30, 2015 Share Posted September 30, 2015 Kelly was most definitely the wrong person to lead this club. Dunn though with a seasoned head alongside him - and I mean a manager in a "director of" capacity rather than seasoned coach - would provide continuity and a long-term plan. Similar I guess to Dowie and Wadsworth. Kelly and Dunn are much the same, one will be backed though whilst the other one wasnt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deyres42 Posted September 30, 2015 Share Posted September 30, 2015 Have a look at the original 160 applicants I'm sure theres one in there who could do a job for us, although many have fallen for Dunn he currently is worse off than Kelly was after 3 games, a new manager normally has a positive effect on a group of players but I'm struggling to see where a wins coming from in the next four or five games. I was listening until you said after 3 games. And you haven't come up with any candidates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monty Burns Posted September 30, 2015 Share Posted September 30, 2015 Play off positions by xmas. Easy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nzlatic Posted September 30, 2015 Share Posted September 30, 2015 Kelly and Dunn are much the same, one will be backed though whilst the other one wasnt. One played his whole career at the top level under several well respected managers. The other peaked at York City. Yep, they're the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yarddog73 Posted September 30, 2015 Share Posted September 30, 2015 One played his whole career at the top level under several well respected managers. The other peaked at York City. Yep, they're the same. Strangely enough many top managers didnt have the glittering careers that Dunn had, it counts for nothing he is a manager now, he has hung up his boots and looking at the managerial statistics there isnt much to choose between them, we dont get 10 extra points for giving Billy big head his chance from Blackburn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
palmer1 Posted September 30, 2015 Share Posted September 30, 2015 Strangely enough many top managers didnt have the glittering careers that Dunn had, it counts for nothing he is a manager now, he has hung up his boots and looking at the managerial statistics there isnt much to choose between them, we dont get 10 extra points for giving Billy big head his chance from Blackburn. :censored: me! He hasn't played for 3 games, that doesn't mean he's hung up his boots. He just trying to steady the ship. We have lost twice this season that's all, not once under Dunn and he trying to adjust the balance to turn draws into wins. 'Billy big head' its pathetic how personal this is with you. You spend far too much time talking about just him and calling him childish names. This can't be just about football, he has pissed you or your mates off by dropping then and you've taken it personal. What relation are you to one of the players dropped, friend? Actually family? Or is one of them having it away with someone related to you That last ones happened before and they got very upset when the player wasn't picked or some posted that they were :censored:... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc1955 Posted September 30, 2015 Share Posted September 30, 2015 FFS....Why would you describe him as Billy Bighead? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aarondo Westy Posted September 30, 2015 Share Posted September 30, 2015 The thing that I worry about is we have been lucky to draw most of the games we have, we have looked like losing most of them. If we lose a couple before we get a win we could be well and truly in the brown stuff. The problem runs much deeper than the manager and playing staff imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigfatjoe1 Posted September 30, 2015 Share Posted September 30, 2015 Two of the poorest home performances imaginable. manager goes after a few weeks. players in, out, in and out. injuries to key players. new manager. All very disruptive. And yet we've lost two games and are unbeaten away. We need a period of stability on and off the pitch. My biggest worry islosing Kelly to another injury. He might not be fully match fit, but there's a massive hole in the team when he's not in it. We've got more than quality, but are a little light in certain areas. A fully fit team will be fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singe Posted September 30, 2015 Share Posted September 30, 2015 With a good manager over this squad we'd be right up near the top. Unfortunately, Simon Corney doesn't have the ambition budget to appoint one. Sad, really. FIFY Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singe Posted September 30, 2015 Share Posted September 30, 2015 I dunno. We're unbalanced with Connor Brown at left back. Our striker options are poor, although Higdon gives us more of a presence. We've not utilised a decent set of midfielders effectively. I think there's enough there in the squad to get safely mid-table without being a managerial genius. A little bit of confidence, spark and togetherness would be an outside chance of the play-offs. Gordon reckons that Connor Brown had a superb game yesterday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
palmer1 Posted September 30, 2015 Share Posted September 30, 2015 Gordon reckons that Connor Brown had a superb game yesterday. But was it superb? Or Connor Brown's superb? I.e didn't make a mistake for the 3rd game running ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted September 30, 2015 Share Posted September 30, 2015 Ok, we are tough to beat. Last night, I'm told, we created some decent chances. We also flexed the formation within the game. Get a little more coherent and those draws might just turn into wins. There's little evidence that a rookie manager who's played in the top three divisions is any worse statistically than an experienced manager who's been sacked a few times. Maybe you can do a football league survey of that o4u for the last couple of years? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nzlatic Posted September 30, 2015 Share Posted September 30, 2015 Strangely enough many top managers didnt have the glittering careers that Dunn had, it counts for nothing he is a manager now, he has hung up his boots and looking at the managerial statistics there isnt much to choose between them, we dont get 10 extra points for giving Billy big head his chance from Blackburn. I don't understand your point at all. You said he was the same as Kelly, I disagreed as he's played at a higher level and has access to those managers as contacts or for advice. Most of the top coaches you're talking about will have worked their way up from the bottom in coaching positions. How many other League 1 managers have there been that haven't played that high, and have no 1st team coaching experience at that level either? I don't blame Kelly for going for the job, but other than the fact that neither have been managers before, they are poles apart. Dunn has had 3 games. He's unbeaten - so that's one positive right there. Whether he'll be any good or not remains to be seen but to write him off after 3 games is bizarre. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBigDog Posted September 30, 2015 Share Posted September 30, 2015 If you were offered another 1-1 draw at Gillingham on Saturday would you take it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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