Hometownclub Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 Deary me, the bloke has gone from playing on the Saturday to managing on the Monday - it would be more surprising if he did know it all at this stage. I don't expect him to know it all and never said I did. What I do expect is a certain level of competency. On Saturday we were dire, we out thought, out battled and out played by a team that had lost 8 straight league games. If he is so far off being even remotely ready for management then clearly he shouldn't have been appointed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryBosch Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 I don't expect him to know it all and never said I did. What I do expect is a certain level of competency. On Saturday we were dire, we out thought, out battled and out played by a team that had lost 8 straight league games. If he is so far off being even remotely ready for management then clearly he shouldn't have been appointed. Maybe he is perfectly "ready" for management but he just isn't very good at it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deyres42 Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 I know, it's not like he tried to get the job previosuly, did his qualifications, undermined the incumbent manager and said he could get us out of mire quicker than Joe Royle is it? Must have been a complete shock to him... Come on, be sensible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChaddySmoker Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 I don't expect him to know it all and never said I did. What I do expect is a certain level of competency. On Saturday we were dire, we out thought, out battled and out played by a team that had lost 8 straight league games. If he is so far off being even remotely ready for management then clearly he shouldn't have been appointed. We had won the previous 2, it is a work in progress Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deyres42 Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 Maybe he is perfectly "ready" for management but he just isn't very good at it? A very good point, and it may turn out to be the case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChaddySmoker Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 Maybe he is perfectly "ready" for management but he just isn't very good at it? A week ago we all wanted Rasulo to start, a month before that Winnie was going to save our season-and some on here claim that he doesnt know what he is doing! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
opinions4u Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 We had won the previous 2, it is a work in progress We didn't turn up for two thirds of either game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deyres42 Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 I don't expect him to know it all and never said I did. What I do expect is a certain level of competency. On Saturday we were dire, we out thought, out battled and out played by a team that had lost 8 straight league games. If he is so far off being even remotely ready for management then clearly he shouldn't have been appointed. Saturday was always a hiding to nothing, win and it was well they've lost 8 on the trot we should be beating them, lose and well, we've seen the reaction since. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deyres42 Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 We didn't turn up for two thirds of either game. But winning is what the results at all costs merchants want isn't it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hometownclub Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 Saturday was always a hiding to nothing, win and it was well they've lost 8 on the trot we should be beating them, lose and well, we've seen the reaction since. I agree it was a hiding to nothing given the circumstances leading up to the game, but my we were poor, could easily have been 0-2 or even 3 by half time. Barnsley were supposed to be low on confidence and morale but anyone could have been forgiven for thinking that was us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
losesome Posted November 23, 2015 Author Share Posted November 23, 2015 There is a fundamental mistake here? We are picking a specific point in time and believing that represented accurately the clubs and teams ability over a period. Is the reality not that we had a glorious Sept and Oct in 2014 and that it is those 2 months that are out of step. We rallied to finish 15th the season before, we did not win in August and the rochdale win was our first and only win in a November. We know the story following the Rochdale .... .to use a point in time 12 months ago as a benchmark for where the team should be seems to me misleading and in denial of the real state of the club OK where do we go back to then !!! We are serving up dog:censored: as entertainment value that we weren't doing 12 months ago . Seems a reasonable starting point to me? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monty Burns Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 OK where do we go back to then !!! We are serving up dog:censored: as entertainment value that we weren't doing 12 months ago . Seems a reasonable starting point to me? Latics fan in obsession with the past shocker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 Why do we need three management staff anyway? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 Coaches don't generally get sacked do they? I thought he was assistant manager now? with Brown the coach? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deyres42 Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 I agree it was a hiding to nothing given the circumstances leading up to the game, but my we were poor, could easily have been 0-2 or even 3 by half time. Barnsley were supposed to be low on confidence and morale but anyone could have been forgiven for thinking that was us. Who says they were low on confidence and morale? The manager certainly didn't seem to be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
palmer1 Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 (edited) Why do we need three management staff anyway? If it was good enough for Joe... Royle, Donachie & Urmson Edited November 23, 2015 by palmer1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 A week ago we all wanted Rasulo to start, a month before that Winnie was going to save our season-and some on here claim that he doesnt know what he is doing! I don't think any of us expected to see Rasulo up front with Poleon, behind a front 2 yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singe Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 But winning is what the results at all costs merchants want isn't it? I am not seeing that so much, it seems the manner of the defeats, being so poor formation wise, tactically and unmotivated, that most people are commenting on and seem disillusioned by. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deyres42 Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 I am not seeing that so much, it seems the manner of the defeats, being so poor formation wise, tactically and unmotivated, that most people are commenting on and seem disillusioned by. At the risk of sounding like a club spokesperson, as a player would you be motivated playing for us at the moment? Copping stick from all angles on social media, stadium less than half full every game, atmosphere flat as a pancake, every misplaced pass resulting in groans, being booed off at half time/full time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
losesome Posted November 23, 2015 Author Share Posted November 23, 2015 Latics fan in obsession with the past shocker. No , just asking why we can't go back to playing how we did then . The players we have are capable of it just appears the management isn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dec666 Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 Coaches don't generally get sacked do they? He presided over a dreadful run of results as caretaker then survived blame free after Kelly's reign. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deyres42 Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 He presided over a dreadful run of results as caretaker then survived blame free after Kelly's reign. No blame to dish out when the only objective is to stay in the league. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nzlatic Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 (edited) I don't think any of us expected to see Rasulo up front with Poleon, behind a front 2 yes.How did they line up when he came on against Chesterfield and Mansfield? Edited November 23, 2015 by nzlatic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monty Burns Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 No , just asking why we can't go back to playing how we did then . The players we have are capable of it just appears the management isn't. As has been pointed out to you, we have had two good months out of the last hundred or so. A blip of form against an otherwise poor record. Hankering after it is extemely silly and probably counter productive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monty Burns Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 If it was good enough for Joe... Royle, Donachie & Urmson This post will be somehow unseen and ignored by its intended reader, as it is factual and opposite to his mindset. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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