Hands on Posted November 28, 2015 Share Posted November 28, 2015 The players are good enough to do better so you have to look at coaching and leadership. I would just like to see signs of improvement but we are going backwards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fruitygoo Posted November 28, 2015 Share Posted November 28, 2015 Wilson and megson (if we could afford!) Would keep us up....no question they would be two of my choices. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senor_Coconut Posted November 28, 2015 Share Posted November 28, 2015 I dont know to be honest, he cant take ALL the blame is all im saying. Is corney doing pretty much everything on the cheap? How can you have a settled side when half the team are not even oldham athletic players. Because the manager hasn't any other idea apart from bringing a new player into the club every few weeks, Corney can't back a manager more than he's doing with Dunn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ds200772 Posted November 28, 2015 Share Posted November 28, 2015 (edited) People said the same when Ronnie Moore was appointed - look how he was hounded out. I bet they look back and wonder now though eh ? Edited November 28, 2015 by ds200772 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ds200772 Posted November 28, 2015 Share Posted November 28, 2015 The players are good enough to do better so you have to look at coaching and leadership. I would just like to see signs of improvement but we are going backwards. I concur sir ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_mighty_bosh Posted November 28, 2015 Share Posted November 28, 2015 Wilson and megson (if we could afford!) Would keep us up....no question they would be two of my choices. The big question is whether we can afford relegation. If so then I could see us keeping Dunn and hoping for the best. If we can't then one of those two would be sour medicine, but just what we need. They'd be more worthwhile than wasting money on more loanees. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeylandLatic Posted November 28, 2015 Share Posted November 28, 2015 8 can't see him being sacked. Corney doesn't have the gumpshion to sack another manager. Best we can hope for is an experienced number 2. You've gone a bit left field on the spelling but up boat for use of the word gumption. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ds200772 Posted November 28, 2015 Share Posted November 28, 2015 I dont know to be honest, he cant take ALL the blame is all im saying. Is corney doing pretty much everything on the cheap? How can you have a settled side when half the team are not even oldham athletic players. Corney's mistakes are the choices of managers.......maybe doing things on the cheap, but he does then back his managers rightly or wrongly with cash for wages etc. In my opinion he would be better spending the cash on a experienced manager. Doing things on the cheap is costing us in lost supporters and revenue from bigger crowds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fruitygoo Posted November 28, 2015 Share Posted November 28, 2015 If we sack dunn....the payoffs from him and kelly plus the loss of any revenue from people not bothering will surley be more than if we'd just splashed on a more experienced manager... Poor business sense... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rvlatic Posted November 28, 2015 Share Posted November 28, 2015 You do know what will happen if a new manager arrives don't you? He will get loads of loan players in(of his own choosing) and the cycle will go on... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeylandLatic Posted November 28, 2015 Share Posted November 28, 2015 How long is Dunn's contract? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midsblue Posted November 28, 2015 Share Posted November 28, 2015 Are we paying Dunn an extra as manager as we were player? If Dunn was to go or offer to stand down as manager then I think we get Dowie in. Players won't have chance to play for him or not. He's out our budget but he's the only manager I recall where the players ran through walls for him and was fully committed to getting a win Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fruitygoo Posted November 28, 2015 Share Posted November 28, 2015 You do know what will happen if a new manager arrives don't you? He will get loads of loan players in(of his own choosing) and the cycle will go on... We need a manager to do what he can with what we have...it isnt actually a bad squad! Then in jan he can make some changes... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senor_Coconut Posted November 28, 2015 Share Posted November 28, 2015 The guy should turn to the board and tell them he's walking away from the job because he's clearly nowhere near ready to manage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rvlatic Posted November 28, 2015 Share Posted November 28, 2015 We need a manager to do what he can with what we have...it isnt actually a bad squad! Then in jan he can make some changes...I agree but when does that ever happen?new managers always expect to get in 'their own players' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickjagger Posted November 28, 2015 Share Posted November 28, 2015 You do know what will happen if a new manager arrives don't you? He will get loads of loan players in(of his own choosing) and the cycle will go on... That is irrelevant, we need a manager who can get a team organised & motivate otherwise it does not matter how good the players are !!!!!!!! The players are not playing for DD & DH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fruitygoo Posted November 28, 2015 Share Posted November 28, 2015 I agree but when does that ever happen? new managers always expect to get in 'their own players' Its only a month...come in now, do what you can for 4-6 games and then your in a better position to decide whats needed in jan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midsblue Posted November 28, 2015 Share Posted November 28, 2015 Thing is Corney won't sack Dunn and Dunn doesn't seem to one to fall on his sword. I think there's more to Dunn's arrival and escalation to manager than meets the eye. Wouldn't surprise me that he's paid his way into the role to cut his teeth. Also we could go with Dunn fit and a few pounds lighter in the middle of the park with an experienced manager or assistant on the touch line. Changing from 4-1-3-2 to 4-4-2 to 3-5-2 to 4-3-3 all in one match does suggest inexperience, total indecision and the wrong person at this time when we're now looking at a relegation battle in our form over the last ten games. As I've said before, I'm all in favour of players evolving into managers through frontline experience but not when we're gambling with our clubs fortunes. Get experience as an assistant to a more experienced manager and then move up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeylandLatic Posted November 28, 2015 Share Posted November 28, 2015 The guy should turn to the board and tell them he's walking away from the job because he's clearly nowhere near ready to manage. I get the feeling he is not the sort to admit he isn't up to something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewBlue Posted November 28, 2015 Share Posted November 28, 2015 As hapless and insipid as I have ever seen. No innovation, no creativity, no desire. Nothing. Must've had a significant percentage of possession and created not a single memorable chance. Fulton can go, Brown, Mills, J Wilson shocking hoof-ball. Philly - nothing. Yeates - no end product. Higdon - nothing. Fuller - nothing. Vicious at the end. Comical during the match. Going down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rvlatic Posted November 28, 2015 Share Posted November 28, 2015 Didn't go and will only go to home games - as soon as I saw the name 'brown' i knew we were f**ked -that change presumably means that eckersley is the fall guy for Tuesday which is pathetic....brown should be nowhere near the starting lineup imo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewBlue Posted November 28, 2015 Share Posted November 28, 2015 Every single one of our subs would've been straight into their first 11 today. I mean that. Dunn/Kelly/Holden have sucked everything positive out of this group, to the point where they revert to hoofing it 40 yards up field every time. Kelly and Yeates are the only two that look interested in anything other than the bare minimum. It's shocking stuff. If the current set-up is the answer, the question is relegation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAV Posted November 28, 2015 Share Posted November 28, 2015 The guy should turn to the board and tell them he's walking away from the job because he's clearly nowhere near ready to manage. THIS 100% ..but he's a bloke and us blokes don't like to admit we are :censored: at something. I believe Mr Dunn will gain more respect if he held up his hands and said " I'm :censored: at being a manager let me be a player again" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clifford Posted November 28, 2015 Share Posted November 28, 2015 I'd sack him for having the current player of the year (winchester) and our best player (jones) on the bench, again. We've no proper leaders / men on the pitch so We need one on the bench. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clifford Posted November 28, 2015 Share Posted November 28, 2015 The bench on Tuesday had Fuller, Rasulo, Jones and Winchester on. Probably the 4 most entertaining players at the club. Dull David. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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