dave_ragg1984 Posted May 15, 2016 Share Posted May 15, 2016 Scraton came across unbelievably well in the BBC documentary this week, which is tough viewing but a must watch on iPlayer if anybody missed it. ESPN, not BBC. Its actually a couple of years old, was shown in the US just as the inquests started, but wasn't allowed to be shown over here until the inquests had ended. They updated it to show the inquest verdicts. They also edited some of the visuals from what was shown when it aired in America, which was for the best i think. A tremendous piece of TV, but very distressing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rosa Posted May 15, 2016 Share Posted May 15, 2016 They also edited some of the visuals from what was shown when it aired in America, which was for the best i think. A tremendous piece of TV, but very distressing. Yeah I commented while watching it on the fact that they blurred the more graphic close ups on the crowd. Those pictures were plastered all over the papers unaltered at the time. The S*n aside,the press coverage of Hillsborough really was awful in general. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsslatic Posted May 15, 2016 Share Posted May 15, 2016 ESPN, not BBC. Its actually a couple of years old, was shown in the US just as the inquests started, but wasn't allowed to be shown over here until the inquests had ended. They updated it to show the inquest verdicts. They also edited some of the visuals from what was shown when it aired in America, which was for the best i think. A tremendous piece of TV, but very distressing. Cheers, didn't know that (obviously). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diego_Sideburns Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 ITV at 10:40pm tonight 'Exposure' programme on Hillsbrough: Smears, Survivors & the Search for Truth. A preview earlier today showed Ray Lewis, the ref in the Forest v Liverpool semi-final, claiming his statement was changed to support allegations fans were drunk. His statement that the fans were mixed outside pubs on his way to Hillsbrough was changed to pissed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magister Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 We have spent £ millions on an inquest which has produced a report which was applauded by Hillsborough Support group to which no one has publicly objected. Is it not time to draw a line under it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diego_Sideburns Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 We have spent £ millions on an inquest which has produced a report which was applauded by Hillsborough Support group to which no one has publicly objected. Is it not time to draw a line under it The South Yorkshire and West Midlands Police Forces need to be brought to account. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magister Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 The South Yorkshire and West Midlands Police Forces need to be brought to account. I understand the point but it is 28 years ago,....Latics were not even in this division....and I think there becomes a point at which it becomes counter productive and entrenches opinions and prejudices. ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeslover Posted December 13, 2016 Share Posted December 13, 2016 I understand the point but it is 28 years ago,....Latics were not even in this division....and I think there becomes a point at which it becomes counter productive and entrenches opinions and prejudices. ... Can you imagine how many innocent people the bastards at the top of this will have screwed over through a long career? I can't imagine why anyone would want to leave them to enjoy a £50,000 pension until the end of their days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stagger Lee Posted December 13, 2016 Share Posted December 13, 2016 I understand the point but it is 28 years ago,....Latics were not even in this division....and I think there becomes a point at which it becomes counter productive and entrenches opinions and prejudices. ... When so many lies have been told over so many years its very much worth ensuring, now the truth is fully known, that the truth is hammered home. If incorrect opinions and prejudices are still entrenched then that only reinforces my point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
opinions4u Posted December 13, 2016 Share Posted December 13, 2016 Is it not time to draw a line under it Absolutely not. The biggest cover up by the authorities I can think of in my lifetime. Keep picking at it. See what else it throws out. It's probably more important to get those involved in the cover up before the courts rather than getting one bloke on a manslaughter charge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
real Posted December 13, 2016 Share Posted December 13, 2016 I understand the point but it is 28 years ago,....Latics were not even in this division....and I think there becomes a point at which it becomes counter productive and entrenches opinions and prejudices. ... If causing deaths and covering them up should be rewarded with a job for life and a pension on top, then you might as well close the prisons. People go to prison for far lesser crimes, being better at covering it up is not a reason to let this lot off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magister Posted December 13, 2016 Share Posted December 13, 2016 If causing deaths and covering them up should be rewarded with a job for life and a pension on top, then you might as well close the prisons. People go to prison for far lesser crimes, being better at covering it up is not a reason to let this lot off. I don't disagree but I very much doubt that you will get a conviction. The inquest jury was not even unanimous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monty Burns Posted December 17, 2016 Share Posted December 17, 2016 What an idiot. Cold, selfish, sheep like knobhead. 'It was nothing to do with me so lets belittle the attempt to bring justice for the ruining of hundreds of lives and the deaths of innocent children.' Prick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magister Posted December 17, 2016 Share Posted December 17, 2016 why is that in inverted commas? Who said that? You are defence counsel's dream Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stagger Lee Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 Another victim? http://www.oldham-chronicle.co.uk/news-features/8/news-headlines/102137/tragic-tale-of-torment So sad - poor bugger - My thoughts are with his friends and family who knew he was suffering but could not help him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rosa Posted June 28, 2017 Share Posted June 28, 2017 (edited) Six facing criminal charges. Duckenfield charged with manslaughter. Reminder that people need to be careful what they say with trials forthcoming. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-merseyside-40419819 Edited June 28, 2017 by rosa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
opinions4u Posted June 28, 2017 Share Posted June 28, 2017 They've gone for Norm too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diego_Sideburns Posted June 28, 2017 Share Posted June 28, 2017 Additionally, just this week, the IPCC has referred two further suspects to the CPS for consideration. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAV Posted June 28, 2017 Share Posted June 28, 2017 Duckenfield cannot be charged with 95 counts of manslaughter yet, will he ever??? South Yorkshire police scum of the earth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diego_Sideburns Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 Quote TheFarm/PeterHooton @TheFarm_Peter 2h 29 years ago we set off for Hillsborough- little did we know was going to happen - thoughts are with those who lost loved ones who were unlawfully killed & the survivors who live with that day forever -2 years on from the inquests & still no one has been held accountable #JFT96 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diego_Sideburns Posted June 29, 2018 Share Posted June 29, 2018 A judge has ruled that David Duckenfield, the match commander, will face trial for the manslaughter by gross negligence of 95 football supporters. Also to face trial are: Former Sheffield Wednesday club secretary Graham Mackrell charged with health and safety, and safety at sports grounds offences; Former solicitor Peter Metcalf and former police officers Donald Denton and Alan Foster charged with perverting the course of justice. A hearing to determine whether former Chief Constable Sir Norman Bettison will be tried has been adjourned until August. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rosa Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 Mackrell guilty. No verdict on Duckenfield. CPS to seek a retrial so we'll all have to refrain from commenting a while longer. https://news.sky.com/story/hillsborough-david-duckenfield-trial-jury-fails-to-reach-verdict-11683069 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiseowl Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 Interesting thread. There is little doubt that the police, by and large, still treat football fans (particularly large away followings) in an appalling way. I`ve not got a particular problem with them targetting the trouble causers in an aggressive way but they just seem to have a real attitude problem with all travelling fans at a big away day. It's an institutional problem that needs sorting. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diego_Sideburns Posted April 4, 2019 Share Posted April 4, 2019 The cases against Donald Denton, former South Yorkshire police chief superintendent, his then deputy, former Chief Inspector Alan Foster, and the then South Yorkshire police force solicitor, Peter Metcalf (all charged with undertaking acts with intent to pervert the course of justice relating to Hillsborough), are due to be heard in September. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
underdog Posted April 4, 2019 Share Posted April 4, 2019 Dear all The Trust have been contacted this week by the group who did the Hillsborough walk a couple of seasons ago. When the trust worked with the club to open up the RRE on a December evening and I put the Chaddy suit on. The Liverpool fans we met that night made friendships that lasted beyond us whooping their arses in the FA cup...hahah Since then, the group have morphed into doing charity work, visiting footy grounds along the way and they will be visiting BP on Good Friday evening as they go onto Manchester City in a few weeks time. I have referred the walkers onto the club so I hope we can do something. In the meantime. Please find below the charities and route they are planning to do. if you see them along the way give them some support https://www.facebook.com/groups/2238519616469665/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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