the_mighty_bosh Posted March 27, 2016 Share Posted March 27, 2016 (edited) Keep Coleman Dieng J Wilson Gerrard B Wilson as a squad player. Edmundson if he had as good a pre-season as many reported. Kelly Jones as a centre-mid, take it or leave it as a left-mid. Winchester Not a clue Vassell Tuohy Byrnes Thiele Let go Cornell Brown Mills Truelove Croft Poleon Forte Cassidy Turner Murphy Bove So there's only 9 that I'd keep, plus 5 of the loanees. I'd imagine that Dummigan, THD and Palmer would want to fight for a place at their parent clubs, Holloway and Main I'd say we have a decent chance of getting. I look at a lot of the list of players to bin and think that, with the right management and coaching this year, they could've been more than adequate in a top half team challenging for the playoffs. That said those in question deserve their share of the blame for not progressing or, in some cases, regressing. Without hindsight I was glad that we didn't overhaul the bulk of the squad last summer because it's very rare that any club develops with large scale changes to the playing staff year-on-year. This year though a large turnover of players is required, regardless of the league we're in. Edited March 27, 2016 by the_mighty_bosh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlayItLivo Posted March 27, 2016 Share Posted March 27, 2016 Would keep (in priority order): Palmer Kelly Holloway Dieng Poleon Gerrard Coleman Dummigan Murphy Winchester You think Poleon is more integral to our team than Gerrard? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewBlue Posted March 27, 2016 Share Posted March 27, 2016 You think Poleon is more integral to our team than Gerrard? No, Gerrard's been crucial for this side but I reckon he'd be replaceable over summer. Poleon will have future value. Not everyone agrees with me but he's gonna come good with a run of fixtures. Dunn dropped him when he was finding form for some reason or another. Plus he's our top scorer..! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlayItLivo Posted March 27, 2016 Share Posted March 27, 2016 No, Gerrard's been crucial for this side but I reckon he'd be replaceable over summer. Poleon will have future value. Not everyone agrees with me but he's gonna come good with a run of fixtures. Dunn dropped him when he was finding form for some reason or another. Plus he's our top scorer..! Gerard's only more replaceable because he actually needs replacing. Poleon could have been released in January and it wouldn't have made a single bit of difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_mighty_bosh Posted March 27, 2016 Share Posted March 27, 2016 No, Gerrard's been crucial for this side but I reckon he'd be replaceable over summer. Poleon will have future value. Not everyone agrees with me but he's gonna come good with a run of fixtures. Dunn dropped him when he was finding form for some reason or another. Plus he's our top scorer..! Can see where you're coming from with Poleon and I think him and Higdon could've been a very effective partnership given a run of games. But while he's a powerful and pacy runner and has shown flashes on brilliance over the last couple of years, he's mostly been ineffective. He doesn't seem to read the game well, often getting into poor positions or making bad decisions on the ball. I'm not convinced that he'll improve much in the future either so I'd leave him off the retained list. Last summer I wanted us to keep Gerrard but I also thought there might be better affordable options. This summer I don't want us to take that chance again! Having said that I think there might be hope for Dieng and Wilson as a partnership if Shirtliff is still here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitey1980 Posted March 27, 2016 Share Posted March 27, 2016 (edited) Gerard's only more replaceable because he actually needs replacing. Poleon could have been released in January and it wouldn't have made a single bit of difference.Am not diminishing his importance..... However it was interesting to see how well the team defended on Saturday when set up properly from back to front. The idea he is irreplaceable is not black and white for me. We should certainly seek to keep him but not at all costs!! Edited March 27, 2016 by whitey1980 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeslover Posted March 27, 2016 Share Posted March 27, 2016 Gerard's only more replaceable because he actually needs replacing. Poleon could have been released in January and it wouldn't have made a single bit of difference.Regardless of Poleon's merits, Gerrard is far from irreplaceable next season. We needed him when we signed him because we'd failed to make a signing and several players went to :censored: along with the rest of the team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deyres42 Posted March 27, 2016 Share Posted March 27, 2016 Gerrard will be back in the Championship next season, so says Anthony Gerrard anyway... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewBlue Posted March 27, 2016 Share Posted March 27, 2016 Can see where you're coming from with Poleon and I think him and Higdon could've been a very effective partnership given a run of games. But while he's a powerful and pacy runner and has shown flashes on brilliance over the last couple of years, he's mostly been ineffective. He doesn't seem to read the game well, often getting into poor positions or making bad decisions on the ball. I'm not convinced that he'll improve much in the future either so I'd leave him off the retained list. Last summer I wanted us to keep Gerrard but I also thought there might be better affordable options. This summer I don't want us to take that chance again! Having said that I think there might be hope for Dieng and Wilson as a partnership if Shirtliff is still here. As opposed to Main? I'd have Poleon over him every day of the week. Poleon's incredibly raw yet he seems to have a knack for goalscoring, and when he's good he's incredible. You say he doesn't read the game well but he's scored a few poachers' goals this season. Granted, there are plenty of flaws to his game - inability to pass some games is certainly one - but he really does, more than anybody else, strike me as the sort of player who will explode with a run of form that propels him into the player he can be, and like so many other attackers who've played for Latics, I fear he will fulfill his potential elsewhere. As for Gerrard, he was supposedly playing for free, so clearly half decent defenders are knocking about. It was Kelly's foolishness in thinking he could play a rookie loanee as his main centre back which exaggerated our problems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigfatjoe1 Posted March 27, 2016 Share Posted March 27, 2016 Can see where you're coming from with Poleon and I think him and Higdon could've been a very effective partnership given a run of games. But while he's a powerful and pacy runner and has shown flashes on brilliance over the last couple of years, he's mostly been ineffective. He doesn't seem to read the game well, often getting into poor positions or making bad decisions on the ball. I'm not convinced that he'll improve much in the future either so I'd leave him off the retained list. Last summer I wanted us to keep Gerrard but I also thought there might be better affordable options. This summer I don't want us to take that chance again! Having said that I think there might be hope for Dieng and Wilson as a partnership if Shirtliff is still here. I'd forgotten about his appointment. I was dreading yesterday because of the defence, but they played really well as a unit. :censored:. He could be top of the retention list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_mighty_bosh Posted March 27, 2016 Share Posted March 27, 2016 As opposed to Main? I'd have Poleon over him every day of the week. Poleon's incredibly raw yet he seems to have a knack for goalscoring, and when he's good he's incredible. You say he doesn't read the game well but he's scored a few poachers' goals this season. Granted, there are plenty of flaws to his game - inability to pass some games is certainly one - but he really does, more than anybody else, strike me as the sort of player who will explode with a run of form that propels him into the player he can be, and like so many other attackers who've played for Latics, I fear he will fulfill his potential elsewhere. As for Gerrard, he was supposedly playing for free, so clearly half decent defenders are knocking about. It was Kelly's foolishness in thinking he could play a rookie loanee as his main centre back which exaggerated our problems. I wouldn't be surprised if Dieng and Wilson end up being our best 2 centre backs next season, but a player like Gerrard is definitely needed in the squad and he's a known quantity. If Shez can find better then fantastic. As for Poleon, I guess we'll have to wait and see. I'd love it if we take a chance on him next season and he proves us right for doing so. He has to be played up front imo. To be fair he might prove me wrong if he gets a run in the side alongside Holloway. I see Main as a different type of player to Poleon, more of a workhorse who will add value to the team defensively even when he isn't scoring. Hopefully Main wouldn't be relied upon to be our main source of goals next season though! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChaddySmoker Posted March 27, 2016 Share Posted March 27, 2016 Your wife smokes the same gear as yourself then. still knows more about footy than some................................woof Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Latics_Fanatic Posted March 27, 2016 Share Posted March 27, 2016 Gerrard will be back in the Championship next season, so says Anthony Gerrard anyway... Coming from the man who had to play for free... He'll be at home in League One. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butter Posted March 27, 2016 Share Posted March 27, 2016 Keep Dieng Coleman J Wilson Winchester Gerrard Unsure on Kelly and Jones absolute shadow of what they were last season. The rest are absolute fodder Another summer of upheaval but at least we have a manager who has a clue rather than the 2/3 previous shambolic appointments. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b0ndl1ne Posted March 28, 2016 Share Posted March 28, 2016 For me if ashes doesn't bring in his 20 goal a season striker. I'd whack Holloway, Main & Poleon up front, sacrifice width and tell them to press and Harry the hell out of the oppo's defence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hands on Posted March 28, 2016 Share Posted March 28, 2016 It rather depends where we are and how much money we lucky season ticket holders have been refunded. Does the season ticket money paid during this season count towards FFP for next season? (Who knows?) I disagree with the assessment of most people with the exception of Cornell and Brown. This was a good group of players when we had a good manager and it will be a good group of players now that we have a good manager. Unfortunately we will lose most of the loan players and even some of those contracted if anybody wants to pay peanuts for them - SC is still here and has a stand to finish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nzlatic Posted March 28, 2016 Share Posted March 28, 2016 This was a good group of players when we had a good manager and it will be a good group of players now that we have a good manager.Do you reckon we'd have climbed to where we are now in the league without the addition of Gerrard, Palmer, Holloway and Main? I don't think so myself, even with us having a better manager now. Not enough of them stood up to be counted during the really bad run, so not fussed if the majority aren't around next season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Handsy Posted March 28, 2016 Share Posted March 28, 2016 Who's contracted beyond the end of the season? Like many have said a lot can go for me I'm sick of watching them not put a shift in Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josh_latics Posted March 28, 2016 Share Posted March 28, 2016 Who's contracted beyond the end of the season? Like many have said a lot can go for me I'm sick of watching them not put a shift in Winch, Kelly, Cassidy, Brown (cheers Dazzler), Murphy I think are here. The rest are up, but the club has options to extend on Dieng, Croft, Mills and Cornell... http://www.owtb.co.uk/index.php/topic/48133-squad-movements-january-2016/?p=839769 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scapegoat Posted March 28, 2016 Share Posted March 28, 2016 Gerrard will be back in the Championship next season, so says Anthony Gerrard anyway... Like the fact he has not given up on the play-offs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest nonaenever Posted March 28, 2016 Share Posted March 28, 2016 I wouldn't be surprised if Dieng and Wilson end up being our best 2 centre backs next season Please no! Having weak centre backs is a big % of why we are in the predicament we are in. Wilson is bobbins at centre half - way too soft - we need a big physical presence in there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SavageTheBeast Posted March 28, 2016 Share Posted March 28, 2016 i wouldn't get rid of Brian Wilson he's a good squad player and can play everywhere in defence, he's probably not on much money either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewBlue Posted March 28, 2016 Share Posted March 28, 2016 i wouldn't get rid of Brian Wilson he's a good squad player and can play everywhere in defence, he's probably not on much money either. Stuck him on my transfer list out of habit, but it's a fair point. He's looked decent most times I've seen him this season, and you could even say he's improved from the last. Campbell-Ryce isn't a bad player at this level and he contained him well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
opinions4u Posted March 28, 2016 Share Posted March 28, 2016 i wouldn't get rid of Brian Wilson he's a good squad player and can play everywhere in defence, he's probably not on much money either. On the basis that we were trying to move him and Poleon out at the start of these season I reckon both are big earners. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stagger Lee Posted March 29, 2016 Share Posted March 29, 2016 Dieng - undoubtedly on very little money and has responded well to Shez. We need cheap reliable squad players so surely we will keep him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.