BP1960 Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 (edited) Will they offer them to us for the same price? Will they offer a buy-back guarantee? Will they sell them in their chain stores around the UK? Example (very simple numbers, ignoring kids sizes, taxes, etc. etc.): Units 5,000 Sale Price £50 Revenue = £250,000 LOCAL Cost £15 a shirt = £75,000 Profit = £175,000 Break Even = 1500 units sold BRANDED Cost £8 a shirt = £40,000 Profit = £210,000 Break Even = 800 units sold Now I fully accept the numbers are speculative at best, but I believe they're a fair indication and I am confident that the club have done at least some research in to this. Can we afford to gamble £35,000 in profit? Will sales from a local firm be sufficient to increase the number sold by 700 (again, for simplicity I'm ignoring the fact those 700 would come with additional costs too). I would love a unique kit like everyone else but economically it would be reckless of the club. We'd all sit here in 18 months bemoaning it! Well yes, I've been saying that about the Trust for 5 years but I get what you mean. Of course they can/should talk to the club about it - indeed I would hope that they could share a "this is why we can't" example (not with commercially sensitive numbers, of course) akin to mine above. But like you say, that's not going to happen and personally I think there's more important things they've got to be doing (where's the stand money going, etc.) than worrying about the kit style/shade of blue. But then this could be a copy and paste from any summer of the last few years when this comes up so what's the point worrying? No worries, I'd still watch them playing in knickerbockers, however I do feel there must be similar designs to the traditional shirt on the current manufacturers shelves, we don't have to choose the plainest nondescript kits. Edited May 17, 2016 by BP1960 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave_ragg1984 Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 Because it will make no difference? Like every year; we do not have the finances to influence the design. Man United, as one of the richest clubs in the world, have to concede on design choices - how in the :censored: can we expect to influence them? They could just ask us what colour away kit we want. I don't understand why we don't just have 3 kits which are always the same colour, with a slight redesign. Blue home, tangerine away, white third. Colours that a lot of fans can identify with. None of this red nonsense, or green, or bloody fluo yellow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBigDog Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 No worries, I'd still watch them playing in knickerbockers, however I do feel there must be similar designs to the traditional shirt on the current manufacturers shelves, we don't have to choose the plainest nondescript kits. In the style of the Ajax home shirt - blue rather than red. Sorted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lookersstandandy Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 They could just ask us what colour away kit we want..... None of this red nonsense, or green.... Red isn't nonsense to me.... Nor is green. We wore both in the mid eighties when I was a boy and so I am fond of both. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midsblue Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 Quality was questionable but I liked last seasons home shirt so this coming seasons attempt will need to be impressive to persuade me to buy one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
palmer1 Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 Won promotion wearing red at Ipswich. It's not nonsence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave_ragg1984 Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 Red isn't nonsense to me.... Nor is green. We wore both in the mid eighties when I was a boy and so I am fond of both. The only people who should wear green are goalies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy-latic Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 Not too bothered about the away kit, (Sheffield Wednesday's was awful last night) its the home kit that needs a unique identity. Interesting... I thought Sheff Wednesday's kit was really nice. Unique and looked decent quality to say it was sondico. Especially compared to how cheap :censored:e and boring ours looks. Kits divide opinion anyways... Will never get one that everyone likes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaticsPete Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 (edited) Interesting... I thought Sheff Wednesday's kit was really nice. Unique and looked decent quality to say it was sondico. Especially compared to how cheap :censored:e and boring ours looks. Kits divide opinion anyways... Will never get one that everyone likesNot sure how you can compare quality from the tv , and it was made by Sondico , the same as ours.It was certainly unique - although that doesn't make it appealing . You're right that kits divide opinion :-) ? Edited May 18, 2016 by LaticsPete Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tGWB Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 Home Kit: Blue with White trimmings Away Kit: White with Blue trimmings Nothing else makes any sense Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tGWB Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 Burton Fans were a bit puzzled about our Kit selection at their place Fans singing "Johnny Sheridans Blue & White Army" and "Oldham play in Blue & Tangerine" The Lads were wearing our Red Kit !! Pure Genius Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OAFCinWolves Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 Reds a winners colour. And a powerful colour psychologically. Blues a dominant colour too so I'd rather we stuck with both. Plus I bought the red top Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigfatjoe1 Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 Keep it blue and bring back the Chaddy!!!!!! every other stand gives me hypothermia...... Red for the away. Reminds me of the glory years. Shankly went to all red because of the psychological edge that red gives you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaticMark Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 Because it will make no difference? Like every year; we do not have the finances to influence the design. Man United, as one of the richest clubs in the world, have to concede on design choices - how in the :censored: can we expect to influence them? The club must have some input. I presume they can state, for example, that this year we want blue shirts, blue shorts and white socks? The manufacturer would then use one of their templates to match our 'general' request. Anyone know how the process works? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevie_J Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 so we couldnt approach a local textile company like harveys and ask them to manufacture a unique shirt for us ? would keep the money local and i bet they would jump at the extra business and tunover ? they all ready maunfacture work wear etc wouldnt be that much different for them to run off 5k replica shirts Not during the term of the agreement with Sports Direct we couldn't, no. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ackey Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 The club must have some input. I presume they can state, for example, that this year we want blue shirts, blue shorts and white socks? The manufacturer would then use one of their templates to match our 'general' request. Anyone know how the process works? Exactly that level of input will be had, I expect (hence why we sometimes end up with the "wrong" blue)... gone are the days of Umbro coming out with 20 different designs to pick from (god love the Green Mountains!). Now it'll be selected just like any of us could buy a Sunday League kit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bunty Blue Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 I love lamp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dec666 Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 Last seasons kits were designed by a local company and then manufactured by Sondico weren't they? Eden Creative I think the name is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ritchierich Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 Reds a winners colour. And a powerful colour psychologically. Blues a dominant colour too so I'd rather we stuck with both. Plus I bought the red top aha!! so Barcelona's success is not entirely down to Messi and co?!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OAFCM35 Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 Last seasons kits were designed by a local company and then manufactured by Sondico weren't they? Eden Creative I think the name is. If so they did a good job, I always thought there would be more money to be made from designing our own kits and merch and getting them made up on the cheap like Portsmouth used to do but that might not be the case anymore considering recent deals with jd & sportsdirect included a town centre store stocking our product/s Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OAFCinWolves Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 aha!! so Barcelona's success is not entirely down to Messi and co?!! Well their kit it half blue and a form of red. So may be ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 Last seasons kits were designed by a local company and then manufactured by Sondico weren't they? Eden Creative I think the name is. The design was nondescript, with no Oldham Athletic identity, some may like it, I don't, but that's my opinion and as a self confessed dinosaur I may well be in the minority. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcfluff1985 Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 The design was nondescript, with no Oldham Athletic identity, some may like it, I don't, but that's my opinion and as a self confessed dinosaur I may well be in the minority. No identity apart from being a copy of the kit we wore in our promotion year? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
palmer1 Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 (edited) The design was nondescript, with no Oldham Athletic identity, some may like it, I don't, but that's my opinion and as a self confessed dinosaur I may well be in the minority.You seem to only identify with the kit from the 60s though as thats what you associate with good times & your youth perhaps? I identify with this seasons kits for the same reason. The non Oldham Athletic fans would not identify us in a kit similar to the 60s because bar an odd season we have played in all blue or blue shirts white shorts. Id go as far to say that the majority of fans in the country and current Latics fans identify us as wearing all blue. We just need to pick a shade of blue and stick to it. All this tangerine nonsence I read is bollocks aswell. We play in blue and white Edited May 18, 2016 by palmer1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewBlue Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 We play in blue and white Or whichever colour the club picks that season... Most clubs have changed their colours around several times in history. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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