Twisbrogan Posted December 30, 2016 Share Posted December 30, 2016 Why do local kids (or more likely their parents) prefer the Rochdale and Bury sets ups, anyone know? Some do (and I've spoken to some of them) whereas some seem happy at Latics. My lad did a couple of years at OAFC, which was largely positive but you don't have to look too far to get both sides of the coin from pretty much any academy. I noticed that Rochdale have a 14 year old that seems to be interesting bigger clubs to back up a good sprinkling of home grown talent in their squad at the moment but I'm not sure why that is. Although there's the occasional exception (such as Jaimie Stott), a good proportion of players that actually get offered scholarships seem to have spent a lot of their development elsewhere & we pick them up at u16. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magister Posted December 30, 2016 Share Posted December 30, 2016 Will Buckley.....released by Latics at 14 years old.....I rang Latics about him again and Richard Tait when they were 16 and being the outstanding players on the field against League youth teams when playing " a year young" in Curzon Ashton's youth team in the FA Youth cup. To be fair the club came and watched buttold me they were lacking in certain areas......scroll forward a few months, and you will see Buckley playing for Rochdale at Wembley and being transferred for 7 figure sums while Tait signs for Notts Forest before moving om and playing on conference play off winning sides and in front of 75000 at Old Trafford and 40000 at Goodison. Now first choice at Motherwell My point is that it one thing having a top coach in TP but it is another thing having muppets as scouts for the youth set up. The best example is me being told that a keeper looked a top prospect but his parents wanted him to stay on into the Sixth Form so we weren't interested . Man CiTy enrol such talent at St Bedes in Manchester.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deyres42 Posted December 30, 2016 Share Posted December 30, 2016 Let's see them keep up their extensive network as pointed out by NewBlue when they fall back to our levels of expenditure...we can't do what Brentford are doing (and I wouldn't want them to either...short sighted for darker days) so we have to find alternative ways. Youth has often proven to be a bloodline for us (even though we've sold out cheaply unlike Crewe, Posh and other clubs like us THEN sold the sell on clause) and now we've starved ourselves to the point that parents would rather send their kids elsewhere. But keep on justifying the unjustifiable. I don't have a strong view either way to be honest but can see both sides of the argument, any excuse to have a pop at Corney though eh... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted December 30, 2016 Share Posted December 30, 2016 Will Buckley.....released by Latics at 14 years old.....I rang Latics about him again and Richard Tait when they were 16 and being the outstanding players on the field against League youth teams when playing " a year young" in Curzon Ashton's youth team in the FA Youth cup. To be fair the club came and watched buttold me they were lacking in certain areas......scroll forward a few months, and you will see Buckley playing for Rochdale at Wembley and being transferred for 7 figure sums while Tait signs for Notts Forest before moving om and playing on conference play off winning sides and in front of 75000 at Old Trafford and 40000 at Goodison. Now first choice at Motherwell My point is that it one thing having a top coach in TP but it is another thing having muppets as scouts for the youth set up. The best example is me being told that a keeper looked a top prospect but his parents wanted him to stay on into the Sixth Form so we weren't interested . Man CiTy enrol such talent at St Bedes in Manchester.... Yes Curzon do have a good youth set up and noticed several of Bury's current youth are now are training with the first team. Hyde also used a couple from their academy last night (they have a development link with Rochdale). What local schools do we get our prospects from ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forte_Baby Posted December 30, 2016 Share Posted December 30, 2016 Let's not forget...Simon Corney singlehandedly worked to kill off our youth system some years ago. It was only thanks to Tony P who persuaded him to change his mind that stopped it happening. It's no wonder it's in a sorry state...TP must work miracles with what he has. I thought it was more Dickov who wanted to get rid of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forte_Baby Posted December 30, 2016 Share Posted December 30, 2016 Am I right in saying they did it so they could focus on a select few talented individuals? That's how I see Brentford bought a few decent lower League players & a couple of youngsters from Prem clubs on season long loans. How very getting rid of Warburton was a mistake Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcfluff1985 Posted December 30, 2016 Share Posted December 30, 2016 Strange interview on LP. Don't normally read much into them but absolute refusal to answer any questions about anything past Fleetwood even when asked if players would need to leave before more come in seemed weird. Refused 3/4 times Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forte_Baby Posted December 30, 2016 Share Posted December 30, 2016 Some do (and I've spoken to some of them) whereas some seem happy at Latics. My lad did a couple of years at OAFC, which was largely positive but you don't have to look too far to get both sides of the coin from pretty much any academy. I noticed that Rochdale have a 14 year old that seems to be interesting bigger clubs to back up a good sprinkling of home grown talent in their squad at the moment but I'm not sure why that is. Although there's the occasional exception (such as Jaimie Stott), a good proportion of players that actually get offered scholarships seem to have spent a lot of their development elsewhere & we pick them up at u16. I mentioned him on here few days ago Daniel Adshead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deyres42 Posted December 30, 2016 Share Posted December 30, 2016 Strange interview on LP. Don't normally read much into them but absolute refusal to answer any questions about anything past Fleetwood even when asked if players would need to leave before more come in seemed weird. Refused 3/4 times His mate on Twitter, Gloster, seems very upset all of a sudden... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewBlue Posted December 30, 2016 Share Posted December 30, 2016 Strange interview on LP. Don't normally read much into them but absolute refusal to answer any questions about anything past Fleetwood even when asked if players would need to leave before more come in seemed weird. Refused 3/4 times Perhaps. May be upset over the threatening tweet. Never know. You'd think Corney would just sack him now if he'd told him he wasn't right and had lost faith. What's one game away at Fleetwood with the same players going to change so drastically? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafcprozac Posted December 30, 2016 Share Posted December 30, 2016 Perhaps. May be upset over the threatening tweet. Never know. You'd think Corney would just sack him now if he'd told him he wasn't right and had lost faith. What's one game away at Fleetwood with the same players going to change so drastically? It's how Cirney does things he sacked dickov on the pitch at meadow lane yet kept him in charge for Liverpool and Walsall. He'll have sounded out replacements and be trying to get Robbo's to walk citing mutual consent so he doesn't have to pay the full percentage of the contract up. It's how he does things. Dickov was sacked yet described as mutual consent - he was paid off but not in full. At the end of the day I would be surprised if he acts before Mansfield as if we win that's the pay off right there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hands on Posted December 30, 2016 Share Posted December 30, 2016 It could just be that the "threatening and abusive tweet aimed at the Oldham Athletic manager Stephen Robinson’s family" is the final straw and Robinson can't see beyond the Fleetwood game because he doesn't want to be here any more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yarddog73 Posted December 30, 2016 Share Posted December 30, 2016 I can see a Shezurrection. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Worcester Owl Posted December 30, 2016 Share Posted December 30, 2016 Will Buckley.....released by Latics at 14 years old.....I rang Latics about him again and Richard Tait when they were 16 and being the outstanding players on the field against League youth teams when playing " a year young" in Curzon Ashton's youth team in the FA Youth cup. To be fair the club came and watched buttold me they were lacking in certain areas......scroll forward a few months, and you will see Buckley playing for Rochdale at Wembley and being transferred for 7 figure sums while Tait signs for Notts Forest before moving om and playing on conference play off winning sides and in front of 75000 at Old Trafford and 40000 at Goodison. Now first choice at Motherwell My point is that it one thing having a top coach in TP but it is another thing having muppets as scouts for the youth set up. The best example is me being told that a keeper looked a top prospect but his parents wanted him to stay on into the Sixth Form so we weren't interested . Man CiTy enrol such talent at St Bedes in Manchester.... St Bede's, that takes me back. I played school football for Bury GS and we had a decent team but always used to get stuffed by them! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boundaryblue80 Posted December 30, 2016 Author Share Posted December 30, 2016 At least two of the bottom six clubs on Boxing Day have been relegated In 2011/12, the bottom four clubs on Boxing Day were the same clubs that comprised the bottom four on the last day of the season. In four of the last five seasons, the team that is bottom of League One on Boxing Day has been relegated. It doesn't look great when you add in the fact that we have the lowest average of goals scored per game in the top 4 divisions. And all them facts are from a time when you could still sign players past January 31st. Hence, longer to pull someone out of the bag (like we did last season in Feb) to pull you out of the :censored:. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boundaryblue80 Posted December 30, 2016 Author Share Posted December 30, 2016 I don't have a strong view either way to be honest but can see both sides of the argument, any excuse to have a pop at Corney though eh... I'll have a pop at any :censored: who thinks shutting down the Youth system is a good idea! If you think that is just "any excuse" you really are a tool! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boundaryblue80 Posted December 30, 2016 Author Share Posted December 30, 2016 I thought it was more Dickov who wanted to get rid of it. Nope. Corney. Go speak with TP and he will tell you. TP had to go find funding for it...which meant doing copious amounts of work to secure grants towards keeping it running. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshgaz Posted December 30, 2016 Share Posted December 30, 2016 (edited) What does Robinson say in his interview that make it sound like he's getting sacked? Edit:just seen other thread. Edited December 30, 2016 by welshgaz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobOAFC Posted December 31, 2016 Share Posted December 31, 2016 Has to go tonight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hometownclub Posted December 31, 2016 Share Posted December 31, 2016 Has to go tonight. I bloody hope so, absolutely clueless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lukers1 Posted December 31, 2016 Share Posted December 31, 2016 Notts County lost again? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kev1969 Posted December 31, 2016 Share Posted December 31, 2016 He has to after watching that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Richard Posted December 31, 2016 Share Posted December 31, 2016 My Fleetwood supporting friend said we were the better side for the whole game apart from the last 5 mins and we just looked too tired to defend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoytonLatics Posted December 31, 2016 Share Posted December 31, 2016 Corney havin a right go at Robinson. Seen with my own eyes! Corney visibly any and upset! Robinson looked a bit lost tbh. #oafcl Via twitter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lukers1 Posted December 31, 2016 Share Posted December 31, 2016 Robbo should have gone pre Lincoln, unless Corney had already lined someone up in Jan? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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