kowenicki Posted June 13, 2017 Share Posted June 13, 2017 On 10/06/2017 at 11:59 PM, ChaddySmoker said: Corbyn was actually only 1720 votes away from becomming the PM. Dont tell the Tory Twts just yet though as it might spoil this soap opera! http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/06/12/theresa-may-just-400-votes-short-majority/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeslover Posted June 13, 2017 Share Posted June 13, 2017 1 hour ago, rosa said: So you don't know that it happened? Only your post started "You do know......?". Guido Fawkes said that mini-Paisley said it happened, and that's good enough for me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UsedtobeWozzer Posted June 13, 2017 Share Posted June 13, 2017 1 hour ago, leeslover said: Guido Fawkes said that mini-Paisley said it happened, and that's good enough for me That's possibly the lowest "good enough for me" threshold anywhere, ever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singe Posted June 13, 2017 Share Posted June 13, 2017 10 hours ago, markgaston said: It's the Orange Institution asking for that Singe, it wouldn't be high on a list of priorities by DUP. Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChaddySmoker Posted June 13, 2017 Share Posted June 13, 2017 3 hours ago, kowenicki said: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/06/12/theresa-may-just-400-votes-short-majority/ Kowenicki not only backs the the wrong horse he is yet again not even at the correct racecourse. Tumbleweed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View Of Golden Gate Posted June 13, 2017 Share Posted June 13, 2017 12 hours ago, markgaston said: The only party which does not attend, debate and vote in Westminster are the Shinners because they refuse to swear an oath of allegiance. Fair enough, I thought I had heard Channel Four say none of the Northern Ireland parties were represented in Westminster. Which they argued effectively pushed May over the line, still this agreement with the DUP is frustrating. May's legacy could well be a botched election, and disregarding the Good Friday Agreement for personal gain. Still people support her, the mind boggles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kowenicki Posted June 13, 2017 Share Posted June 13, 2017 30 minutes ago, ChaddySmoker said: Kowenicki not only backs the the wrong horse he is yet again not even at the correct racecourse. Tumbleweed. where did your horse come? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kowenicki Posted June 13, 2017 Share Posted June 13, 2017 21 minutes ago, View Of Golden Gate said: Fair enough, I thought I had heard Channel Four say none of the Northern Ireland parties were represented in Westminster. Which they argued effectively pushed May over the line, still this agreement with the DUP is frustrating. May's legacy could well be a botched election, and disregarding the Good Friday Agreement for personal gain. Still people support her, the mind boggles. Who should people support? Who has the most legitimate mandate? I think I have been proved right that ALL the politicians we have now are a set of self serving, disingenuous, power hungry idiots. For some reason some very gullible people think Corbyn is "different". he really isn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rosa Posted June 13, 2017 Share Posted June 13, 2017 4 hours ago, leeslover said: Guido Fawkes said that mini-Paisley said it happened, and that's good enough for me FFS I hope your source for Jeffrey Donaldson being in a big gay closet is more reliable. I'd hate to think I'd unfairly slandered him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChaddySmoker Posted June 13, 2017 Share Posted June 13, 2017 3 hours ago, kowenicki said: Who should people support? Who has the most legitimate mandate? I think I have been proved right that ALL the politicians we have now are a set of self serving, disingenuous, power hungry idiots. For some reason some very gullible people think Corbyn is "different". he really isn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueatheart Posted June 13, 2017 Share Posted June 13, 2017 22 minutes ago, ChaddySmoker said: Looks like Corbyn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChaddySmoker Posted June 13, 2017 Share Posted June 13, 2017 6 hours ago, blueatheart said: Looks like Corbyn The man who campaigned for an end to Austerity? My, what a fool! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kowenicki Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 aaaaaaand Corbyn has already blamed the fire on local authority cuts. "This is what happens when local authority spending is cut". Literally everything is down to not enough spending with this guy. Or... the local authority concerned hasn't spent money wisely, or the safety inspector employed by the local authority is incompetent, or the company employed to do the recent multi million pound improvements to the block have fucked up. Amazing response by the the fire service and I hope they have kept the casualties down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singe Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 36 minutes ago, kowenicki said: aaaaaaand Corbyn has already blamed the fire on local authority cuts. "This is what happens when local authority spending is cut". Literally everything is down to not enough spending with this guy. Or... the local authority concerned hasn't spent money wisely, or the safety inspector employed by the local authority is incompetent, or the company employed to do the recent multi million pound improvements to the block have fucked up. Amazing response by the the fire service and I hope they have kept the casualties down. It's hardly just him. 12 Fire Engines out of service today. 3 nearby Fire stations, they had to bring in pumps from Surrey. A further 10 stations to close and 550 jobs lost. The Fire Brigades reduced role in Inspection and Safety transferring it to self regulation of private sector. 20% rise in fire deaths 17% cut since 2010. I didn't vote Labour. Fire Brigades UnionVerified account @fbunational These are the bruising cuts to fire and rescue authorities in England that the current government have planned Retweets 148 Likes 45 8:44 PM - 30 Apr 2017 7 replies 148 retweets 45 likes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kowenicki Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 Opportunism from deaths. Sickens me. They were there in 8minutes. The nature of the fire was the problem. Not the resource. Somebody has fucked up with this building. It should not escape and hop floors so easily. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diego_Sideburns Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 It's looking as though politicians are not without blame over lack of action to avoid this tragedy. http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/theresa-mays-chief-staff-sat-10620357#ICID=sharebar_twitter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singe Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 30 minutes ago, kowenicki said: Opportunism from deaths. Sickens me. They were there in 8minutes. The nature of the fire was the problem. Not the resource. Somebody has fucked up with this building. It should not escape and hop floors so easily. If all this is investigated properly, then that will be way down the list if things that is sickening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeslover Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 I do feel we should wait and see here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diego_Sideburns Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 John Harris @johnharris1969 Edict actually sent from Tory HQ to local campaign. Maybotism gone mad. http://econ.st/2rdTzfk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UsedtobeWozzer Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 3 hours ago, kowenicki said: aaaaaaand Corbyn has already blamed the fire on local authority cuts. "This is what happens when local authority spending is cut". Literally everything is down to not enough spending with this guy. Or... the local authority concerned hasn't spent money wisely, or the safety inspector employed by the local authority is incompetent, or the company employed to do the recent multi million pound improvements to the block have fucked up. Amazing response by the the fire service and I hope they have kept the casualties down. Pot, kettle? if Corbyn's approach is to blame everything on cuts, yours is to claim they are irrelevant. Pointless argument because there's no chance of reaching a common position. I note the independent is claiming the money at least in part was spent so they looked nicer for millionaires in surrounding areas when it appears a sprinkler system would have cost a fraction of that so you probably have a point in relation to the priorities of the local Tory council. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
opinions4u Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 Having just read Corbyn's statement word for word there's only one sentence that strikes me as opportunist, and for that he was quoting Harriet Harman. The rest of it came across as pretty sensible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ChaddySmoker Posted June 15, 2017 Share Posted June 15, 2017 17 hours ago, kowenicki said: aaaaaaand Corbyn has already blamed the fire on local authority cuts. "This is what happens when local authority spending is cut". Literally everything is down to not enough spending with this guy. Or... the local authority concerned hasn't spent money wisely, or the safety inspector employed by the local authority is incompetent, or the company employed to do the recent multi million pound improvements to the block have fucked up. Me thinks that perhaps you are a little biased here. If there is one person who should not rush to comment it is your good self 14 hours ago, leeslover said: I do feel we should wait and see here. I quite agree Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Mikey Posted June 15, 2017 Share Posted June 15, 2017 11 hours ago, opinions4u said: Having just read Corbyn's statement word for word there's only one sentence that strikes me as opportunist, and for that he was quoting Harriet Harman. The rest of it came across as pretty sensible. Don't let the facts get in the way of Mr Kowenicki's political agenda. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
opinions4u Posted June 15, 2017 Share Posted June 15, 2017 This is what Corbyn said, after being explicitly questioned by the interviewer about the 2009 fire, and having opened by praising fire fighters and emergency services."Harriet Harman the MP who represented those people that suffered in the fire in 2009 has made the point that if you cut local authority expenditure then the price is paid somewhere.Today is the day to support the emergency services and residents ... Tomorrow is the time to ask all those questions. But today let’s concentrate on dealing with the consequences of this fire and try and bring comfort and safety and safe life wherever possible it can be saved.The areas one has to look at, are the preventive measures that were available, or not available, in the tower; the facilities available to get in and out of it in an emergency ... and the numbers of people available to the fire service, paramedics and emergency services to deal with a crisis like this. We have to make sure we are properly resourced to deal with this kind of crisis. Today let’s concentrate on saving lives.A review took place after the fire in Camberwell, and the government has that review. We need to ask questions about what facilities and resources have been given to every local authority that has tower block in their area and, frankly most do. We need people to be safe living in high rise buildings.Obviously ministers who received those reports must be questions, but today every focus must be on saving and protecting life." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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