mikejh45 Posted July 9, 2017 Share Posted July 9, 2017 ...it happens, can we and would we accommodate both Gardner and Baxter in the starting lineup? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc_lover Posted July 9, 2017 Share Posted July 9, 2017 Probably not, but not a bad dilemma to have eh? Can't see it happening but if it did, buying that season ticket after 8 years off will feel like an even better decision. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted July 9, 2017 Share Posted July 9, 2017 1 hour ago, mikejh45 said: ...it happens, can we and would we accommodate both Gardner and Baxter in the starting lineup? And Banks? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted July 9, 2017 Share Posted July 9, 2017 I wonder if Shez sees Gardner in the central deeper role he played at Stalybridge, almost like the liberos of the past? It's a role which may suit the team well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b0ndl1ne Posted July 10, 2017 Share Posted July 10, 2017 53 minutes ago, BP1960 said: I wonder if Shez sees Gardner in the central deeper role he played at Stalybridge, almost like the liberos of the past? It's a role which may suit the team well. Not with Fane and Green in the side. Shez will be playing 5-3-2 this season and Gardner will be the furthest forward out of the 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudemedic Posted July 10, 2017 Share Posted July 10, 2017 7 hours ago, mikejh45 said: ...it happens, can we and would we accommodate both Gardner and Baxter in the starting lineup? We could, but we couldn't accommodate those two and both Davies and Holloway. Jose playing off Holloway or Davies, with Gardner behind could prove very fruitful. Let's be clear, Jose is only rumoured to be coming here, I can see why for numerous reasons, but until he signs I'm not going to get too excited. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lookersstandandy Posted July 10, 2017 Share Posted July 10, 2017 It just doesn't seem plausible to me.... ....if Everton are going to give him another chance.... why would they loan him out straight away....? Surely they'd wanna see him day in day out to assess his professionalism & be confient he has exorcised his demons, before exploring such a move - where arguably he's more at risk!?! He's not a kid anymore.... he's 25yo now.... Everton must surely be thinking of having him in & around their 1st team sooner rather than later, or else what's the point? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yarddog73 Posted July 10, 2017 Share Posted July 10, 2017 11 minutes ago, lookersstandandy said: It just doesn't seem plausible to me.... ....if Everton are going to give him another chance.... why would they loan him out straight away....? Surely they'd wanna see him day in day out to assess his professionalism & be confient he has exorcised his demons, before exploring such a move - where arguably he's more at risk!?! He's not a kid anymore.... he's 25yo now.... Everton must surely be thinking of having him in & around their 1st team sooner rather than later, or else what's the point? Maybe the PFA are involved and Everton is the best fit to aid his rehabilitation, lets face it as much as I love Baxter and the undoubted quality he could offer us he's a million miles away from Evertons first team, he's there for help not to push for a starting spot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lookersstandandy Posted July 10, 2017 Share Posted July 10, 2017 Just now, yarddog73 said: Maybe the PFA are involved and Everton is the best fit to aid his rehabilitation, lets face it as much as I love Baxter and the undoubted quality he could offer us he's a million miles away from Evertons first team, he's there for help not to push for a starting spot. Then why not come straight to us - the PFA that is!?! It's not like they don't know we're up for taking on a troubled soul or two. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yarddog73 Posted July 10, 2017 Share Posted July 10, 2017 2 minutes ago, lookersstandandy said: Then why not come straight to us - the PFA that is!?! It's not like they don't know we're up for taking on a troubled soul or two. Cos we let them down with Ched. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lookersstandandy Posted July 10, 2017 Share Posted July 10, 2017 Just now, yarddog73 said: Cos we let them down with Ched. ...give over... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc-latics Posted July 10, 2017 Share Posted July 10, 2017 There's Ryan Flynn to accommodate as well as Gardner/Banks/potentially Baxter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryBosch Posted July 10, 2017 Share Posted July 10, 2017 10 hours ago, mikejh45 said: ...it happens, can we and would we accommodate both Gardner and Baxter in the starting lineup? Yes, Baxter upfront Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted July 10, 2017 Share Posted July 10, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, lookersstandandy said: It just doesn't seem plausible to me.... ....if Everton are going to give him another chance.... why would they loan him out straight away....? Surely they'd wanna see him day in day out to assess his professionalism & be confient he has exorcised his demons, before exploring such a move - where arguably he's more at risk!?! He's not a kid anymore.... he's 25yo now.... Everton must surely be thinking of having him in & around their 1st team sooner rather than later, or else what's the point? The rumour suggests a contract not a loan. Edited July 10, 2017 by BP1960 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lookersstandandy Posted July 10, 2017 Share Posted July 10, 2017 (edited) 27 minutes ago, BP1960 said: The rumour suggests a contract not a loan. You're referring to a tweet from a Jordan Wilbraham I presume.... who says he rejected a contract from Everton and is on a 3 week trial with us? None of it makes sense, least of all Mr Wilbraham. Jordan Wilbraham @JordanWilbraham Jul 8 More BREAKING - Jose Baxter WILL NOT be signing for Everton. He is currently on a 3 week trial at Oldham Athletic with a view to a permanent deal Jordan Wilbraham @JordanWilbraham 2h2 hours ago More Replying to @OAFC_22 Rejected Everton contract (as he did in 2012) Is on trial with/training with Oldham By no means a done deal that hes signing though... Jordan Wilbraham @JordanWilbraham The majority of people in the world are sheep who follow!.....Well thank fuck I'm not one of them #baaaaaaaa Edited July 10, 2017 by lookersstandandy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryBosch Posted July 10, 2017 Share Posted July 10, 2017 6 hours ago, rudemedic said: until he signs I'm not going to get too excited. You're doing it all wrong - be excited now at the prospect then get really fucking excited if it actually happens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlossopLatic Posted July 10, 2017 Share Posted July 10, 2017 3 hours ago, lookersstandandy said: It just doesn't seem plausible to me.... ....if Everton are going to give him another chance.... why would they loan him out straight away....? Surely they'd wanna see him day in day out to assess his professionalism & be confient he has exorcised his demons, before exploring such a move - where arguably he's more at risk!?! He's not a kid anymore.... he's 25yo now.... Everton must surely be thinking of having him in & around their 1st team sooner rather than later, or else what's the point? Everton are not going to give him another chance to make it there. They have just tried to help him get back on his feet probably at no cost to them and done by some coaches who know and care about his well being. Baxter would be tailor made to play in a 3-5-2 infront of 2 midfielders and with 2 strikers ahead of him who he could feed, he could just use his technique and vision getting him fit and focused will be the problem at 25 I'm wondering if those issues are going to be harder to shift than they would be for someone at 16-17. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lookersstandandy Posted July 10, 2017 Share Posted July 10, 2017 (edited) 11 minutes ago, GlossopLatic said: Everton are not going to give him another chance to make it there. They have just tried to help him get back on his feet probably at no cost to them and done by some coaches who know and care about his well being. Baxter would be tailor made to play in a 3-5-2 infront of 2 midfielders and with 2 strikers ahead of him who he could feed, he could just use his technique and vision getting him fit and focused will be the problem at 25 I'm wondering if those issues are going to be harder to shift than they would be for someone at 16-17. This article says they offered him a 12 month contract, that could only begin last month..... and people think he might've turned it down....? I agree it's highly unlikely he'd ever get near an Everton starting 11 again, however I'd be more worried about his state of mind for turning down the opportunity, than I would for his past misdemeanours... http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-4162338/Everton-offer-12-month-contract-Jose-Baxter.html Edited July 10, 2017 by lookersstandandy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lookersstandandy Posted July 10, 2017 Share Posted July 10, 2017 ....and this article was from the week before last.... https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/jose-baxter-prepares-to-re-join-everton-after-serving-drugs-ban-pxq0c5dnz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue_Guru Posted July 10, 2017 Share Posted July 10, 2017 12 hours ago, b0ndl1ne said: Not with Fane and Green in the side. Shez will be playing 5-3-2 this season and Gardner will be the furthest forward out of the 3 I think Shez wants a few systems this year...our squad is shaping up that way. He likes to change tactics based on being home or away, or playing against more defensive/attack minded opposition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
disjointed Posted July 10, 2017 Share Posted July 10, 2017 25 minutes ago, Blue_Guru said: I think Shez wants a few systems this year...our squad is shaping up that way. He likes to change tactics based on being home or away, or playing against more defensive/attack minded opposition. How refreshing that we may be able to do this, instead of 3 or 4 decent players and the next 7 or 8 least shittest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlossopLatic Posted July 10, 2017 Share Posted July 10, 2017 5 hours ago, lookersstandandy said: This article says they offered him a 12 month contract, that could only begin last month..... and people think he might've turned it down....? I agree it's highly unlikely he'd ever get near an Everton starting 11 again, however I'd be more worried about his state of mind for turning down the opportunity, than I would for his past misdemeanours... http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-4162338/Everton-offer-12-month-contract-Jose-Baxter.html Surprised if that's a genuine offer at best I'd think it would be reserve team player contract given out of sympathy. You would worry if he turned it down what his motivation would be does he want to be a footballer anymore? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monty Burns Posted July 10, 2017 Share Posted July 10, 2017 1 hour ago, GlossopLatic said: Surprised if that's a genuine offer at best I'd think it would be reserve team player contract given out of sympathy. You would worry if he turned it down what his motivation would be does he want to be a footballer anymore? You have answered your own questions with your own words 14,15 and 16. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted July 10, 2017 Share Posted July 10, 2017 (edited) 14 hours ago, rudemedic said: We could, but we couldn't accommodate those two and both Davies and Holloway. Jose playing off Holloway or Davies, with Gardner behind could prove very fruitful. Let's be clear, Jose is only rumoured to be coming here, I can see why for numerous reasons, but until he signs I'm not going to get too excited. Interesting to read Wellens thought Gardner was suited to the central midfield holding role. At times last Saturday Fane was playing in front of Gardner (and scored a goal). I'd not seen Gardner before in that position, so it could be Wellens has hit on something good here. Edited July 10, 2017 by BP1960 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monty Burns Posted July 10, 2017 Share Posted July 10, 2017 I thought Gardner played in his natural position and was simply dropping deep looking for the ball. Sick of saying he isn't a winger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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