KYLEOAFC Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 Don't like each other and can't play together anymore it seems. Why can't we defend set pieces and why have we stopped talking at the back? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LightDN123 Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 How do you know they don't like each other ? Genuinely wondering Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KYLEOAFC Posted August 12, 2017 Author Share Posted August 12, 2017 They don't look at the form of Clarke when he's not playing with Gerrard and look at the interviews of Gerrard he's not a fan of Clarke and vice versa. Gerrard was the reason Clarke nearly went last year! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueatheart Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 2 minutes ago, KYLEOAFC said: Money was the reason Clarke nearly went last year! FTFY Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LightDN123 Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 I'm sorry but you have pulled that out of nowhere with no real evidence at all, but agree they maybe are a bit slow together Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stagger Lee Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 Sounds like bullshit to me - put up some evidence or STFU The only time I saw them angry was they were both telling Banks off united in their frustration with him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dec666 Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 To be fair, based on absolutely nothing bar their interviews on Latics Player, I’ve always got the impression they don’t really get on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
palmer1 Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 You don't have to be best mates to play football. What a load of rubbish! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KYLEOAFC Posted August 12, 2017 Author Share Posted August 12, 2017 Not arsed who believes what I am saying couldn't give a toss tbh. It's true but the issue is what are the club going to do about it. Look at them on the pitch we can't defend set pieces and with their experience it's criminal they need to speak! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LightDN123 Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 It's no problem, but currently your saying it's true, but you don't know it's true ? People just want to know how you know, and you literally don't Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewBlue Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 Forget the defence, they'll sort themselves out in time, but why have we gone three games into a season without a single central midfielder that is good enough to play at this level? It's fucking scandalous. How has Shez of all people proceeded over that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy b Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 Our defensive regard last year was significantly better before Gerrard joined. I am not a fan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deyres42 Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 3 minutes ago, Andy b said: Our defensive regard last year was significantly better before Gerrard joined. I am not a fan How about the season before that Ando? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy b Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 You are only as good as your last season chap. Surely reinforces the suggestions that they can't play together. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deyres42 Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 Drop Clarke then cos (without looking) I'd say Gerrard has a better points per game record. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy b Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 Ha ha. Ridiculous idea. Gerrard is out of shape and unwanted by others. We were his last resort. Drop Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy b Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 Ha ha. Ridiculous idea. Gerrard is out of shape and unwanted by others. We were his last resort. Drop Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laticfanatic1 Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 Gerrard needs dropping until he's lost atleast 2 stone. Get young Stott in with Clarke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deyres42 Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 Just now, Laticfanatic1 said: Gerrard needs dropping until he's lost atleast 2 stone. Get young Stott in with Clarke He hasn't got two stone to lose, stop being silly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudemedic Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 Gerrard and Clarke don't get on, despite being at Huddersfield together for a couple of seasons, personally I think it's the other way round, that they get on quite well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midsblue Posted August 13, 2017 Share Posted August 13, 2017 14 hours ago, palmer1 said: You don't have to be best mates to play football. What a load of rubbish! Andy Cole and Teddy Sheringham were testament to that. Cole detested Sheringham but the two were prolific together on the pitch. There's loads of other examples of footballers within the same team either hating one another or cliques within the squads. Footballers are adults FFS and paid to do a job not to be best pals. Fact is Gerrard is overweight and unfit. He won't admit it but he's struggling and needs a rocket up his arse and an extended session or ten from Harbin. Whilst Clarke is equally not the fastest, he's a model pro when it comes to fitness and fully committed. You can't knock Gerard's commitment but application is struggling currently until he can shed a stone. Both are slow hence you need a more mobile defender in a back three to mop up and commitment from midfield and wing backs to compensate for the lack of speed and mobility. Get Gerrard fighting fit and I'm sure we can still squeeze this season out of both of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yarddog73 Posted August 13, 2017 Share Posted August 13, 2017 15 minutes ago, latics22 said: I'm not sure how anyone can say that gerrard or Clarke hav suddenly become so terrible 3 months after being lorded on here? Like goldfish some fans They haven't become terrible but there's no doubt both are not at their best, getting Ripley back would of been huge for the confidence of our defence and although I wouldn't like to criticise Wilson after only three games he does seem to have some obvious flaws that teams are playing to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magister Posted August 13, 2017 Share Posted August 13, 2017 1 hour ago, Midsblue said: Get Gerrard fighting fit and I'm sure we can still squeeze this season out of both of them. .....ummm. They have both got 2 years left on their contracts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristolatic Posted August 13, 2017 Share Posted August 13, 2017 15 hours ago, Laticfanatic1 said: Gerrard needs dropping until he's lost atleast 2 stone. Get young Stott in with Clarke Any idea what he weighs? You'd need to if you suggest he's able to lose two stone. 28lbs is quite a lot. I'm 14 and a half stone and, if I was only 12 and a half, I think I'd feel quite ill. And, no, I'm not 6'6" and built like a brick shithouse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
palmer1 Posted August 13, 2017 Share Posted August 13, 2017 Anthony Gerrard has just completed his first preseason in about 6 years. He has done this with the most acclaimed fitness coach that Oldham have employed in the last 20 years. During this preseason the players will be put through all sorts of tests which will include body fat percentage & weight. Anybody who thinks that he is overweight and unfit after watching a couple of games because we lost conceding a few goals is talking bollocks! He and Clarke are not the quickest and may not have started the season in the best form but the main issue is that they are being exposed time and time again by midfield that is not doing it's job. You will not and have not heard Shez criticise the centre of our defence because they are not the problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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